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Post by punch drunk Tue 19 Apr 2011, 1:35 pm

I am a big Lesnar fan, and believe he has the capabilities to be a true great in the sport. However, i think his WWE fame has been his greatest downfall. He is facing people he just should not be in with considering his MMA experiance. I would of much prefered Brock to take 2 years fighting 3 times a yar learining his trade. I really cant see hijm beating JDS right now, and think his confidence will be all but gone if he is Ko'ed. Booooo dana for making his quick buck!!

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Post by Guest Tue 19 Apr 2011, 11:46 pm

I think it was to be honest. Didn't he beat a nobody in his 1st fight, then lose his 2nd & not long after get his title shot? Doesn't seem like the normal route to a title! I agree he should've been matched properly & learnt his trade over a couple of years, but Dana was looking at the short term & the dollars. To be honest I'm not a Lesnar fan, he seems to have a massive ego & be an arrogant meathead & I enjoyed watching him take a beating from Cain! Are you watching TUF 13 & how do you find Lesnar? I'll be honest & say he's coming across better than I expected but still haven't taken to him.

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Post by punch drunk Wed 20 Apr 2011, 9:17 am

i think his near death experiance taught him a good lesson about humility. His attitude was rubbish coming in to MMA though.

His first fight was against a Korean with a rubbish record, but failry good kickboxer. 2nd fight was againt Mir, where he was mashing his face but got caught with a submission, and then somehow, in his 3rd fight, he beat herring and got a shot at randy!!

I think if they hadnt rushed him, we would be looking at a long reigning champion!

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Post by Guest Wed 20 Apr 2011, 5:44 pm

A pure money move from Dana, would defo have brought a lot of WWE fans over especially his fight against Randy. I think win or lose Lesnar brings money to the table.

With regards to him being a long reigning champ I dont know. He seems to have trained in little else except wrestling & thinks with his size, strength & athletisim thats enough! Carwin showed signs of how to beat him & Cain had to much, his take down defence was excellant & unless Lesnar can take you down submit or pound you I think he struggles. I have heard he spends a lot of time on fitness & conditioning & has a lot of yes men around him. He also doesn't like to get hurt, look at the Carwin & Cain fights he just seems to cower away, can he really overcome this?

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Post by punch drunk Thu 21 Apr 2011, 10:56 am

thats why i would of liked him to spend a good two years developing the skills needed to be a complete fighter. He needed to get his ability in many different areas up to speed before being matched the way he has. i you can learn how to cope beter with taking a punch, no one really like it. Its more a mental thing, realising your not made of glass. when i first started sparing, i was rubbish!! when a punch came at me, i would automatically put my head down, and then ship a hole lot more!! he needs to jouin a traning camp, not go it alone

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Post by theundisputedY2D2 Thu 21 Apr 2011, 1:40 pm

punch drunk wrote:he needs to join a traning camp, not go it alone

^^^^^^

This.

Until Brock gets away from his current team he'll never be the fighter he could be. The thing I always noticed about Brock was his attempts to always better himself. He never appeared to be one who rested on his laurels. After the Carwin fight I thought that would be a wake up call to him that he needed to expand his game but being surrounded by yes men obviously doesn't help and Cain blitzed him.

I haven't heard what he's doing training wise for the JDS fight, whether he's brought anybody new in or not, but if he hasn't then I can see Junior inflicting another beating on him.

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Post by Clunge4life Thu 21 Apr 2011, 2:07 pm

A lot of people put Dos Santos in the same class as Cain....i dont....he is a great fighter i just dont see him overcoming Lesnar

I think Lesnar will be pumped for this fight and esp after his demolition at the hands of Cain i think it will 3 rounds of Lesnar dominating with his wrestling........even if he has'nt mixed his camp up

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Post by Valero's Conscience Thu 21 Apr 2011, 2:14 pm

The latest edition of Fighters Only magazine has Brock as it's feature article and he shares quite a few honest thoughts on his weaknesses and where to improve and a few pages containing experts discussing how and if he can improve and how to do it.

Anyone interested in this article would find the article of interest to them.

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Post by Clunge4life Thu 21 Apr 2011, 3:38 pm

Cheers Valero must mind to have a look at that

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Post by Valero's Conscience Thu 21 Apr 2011, 9:10 pm

No worries Clunge,

I subscribe to the magazine so get it early so to clarify, it's the one with Brock on the cover and not the Roy Nelson one.

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