At the risk of conflating McIlroy and the Olympics again...

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Interesting gambit:

http://www.golfchannel.com/news/golftalkcentral/ireland-offers-mcilroy-chance-to-carry-flag-at-rio-olympics

GunsGerms wrote:

super_realist wrote:So why are Ireland so niggardly with their Olympic funding? Other small countries like NZ, Finland, Norway etc consistently outperform the bog trotters.

Why would McIlroy or GFat want to be associated with such sporting dross?

By that logic it should be a pretty easy decision for them both as they surely wouldnt want to associate themselves with a nation of mentally fragile journey men golfers incapable of winning majors.

And how many men from Southern Ireland have won a major in the entire history of the game ?

I wish I had the bank account of that village idiot. He is also a qualified chartered accountant, so he can't be that much of an idiot.

I know, I actually quite like Harrington as a person. He just looks incredibly thick and walks like a moron.

GunsGerms wrote:Ill dumb it down for you because you arent very bright.

Irelands Olympic budget was approx €5m
Britains was approx £250

Britain effectively blew Irelands whole budget per medal they won. Yet Ireland still managed 5 medals on their megre budget. All factors considered Ireland did very well.

£250!! That's such a cheap budget! I might enter the next games!

I understand Ireland's budget was much lower, but it's not calculated on a £ per medal basis. There'll be a lot of money poured into ensuring the success continues. Plus, some sports are far more expensive to do. Of course my budget is a lot higher for track cycling than it is for Table Tennis or Boxing, because the bikes cost 20k each!

GunsGerms wrote:Ill dumb it down for you because you arent very bright.

Irelands Olympic budget was approx €5m
Britains was approx £250

Britain effectively blew Irelands whole budget per medal they won. Yet Ireland still managed 5 medals on their megre budget. All factors considered Ireland did very well.

pretty poor point in fairness. your assumption that there is a linear return between medals and budget is stupid.
Ireland are brutal at Olympic sports. face the facts.

hend085 wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:Ill dumb it down for you because you arent very bright.

Irelands Olympic budget was approx €5m
Britains was approx £250

Britain effectively blew Irelands whole budget per medal they won. Yet Ireland still managed 5 medals on their megre budget. All factors considered Ireland did very well.

pretty poor point in fairness. your assumption that there is a linear return between medals and budget is stupid.
Ireland are brutal at Olympic sports. face the facts.

Exactly my point too! If that was the case, we'd bung a billion quid at it and win all of the medals!!

Ireland finished behind such financial giants as Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Hungary, Jamaica, Ethiopia, and Romania

1 gold (womens boxing) 1 silver and 3 bronze. Pi$$ poor.

JeffCarnage wrote:

hend085 wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:Ill dumb it down for you because you arent very bright.

Irelands Olympic budget was approx €5m
Britains was approx £250

Britain effectively blew Irelands whole budget per medal they won. Yet Ireland still managed 5 medals on their megre budget. All factors considered Ireland did very well.

pretty poor point in fairness. your assumption that there is a linear return between medals and budget is stupid.
Ireland are brutal at Olympic sports. face the facts.

Exactly my point too! If that was the case, we'd bung a billion quid at it and win all of the medals!!

Thats effectively what Britain has done. Obviously there is a direct correlation with funding levels and success. Doesnt take a genius to work that out.

So the sports you claim Ireland are good at (whatever they are) do they not fund them very well? Do they just rely on talent. Or do they just promise them a life time supply of pota........

GunsGerms wrote:

JeffCarnage wrote:

hend085 wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:Ill dumb it down for you because you arent very bright.

Irelands Olympic budget was approx €5m
Britains was approx £250

Britain effectively blew Irelands whole budget per medal they won. Yet Ireland still managed 5 medals on their megre budget. All factors considered Ireland did very well.

pretty poor point in fairness. your assumption that there is a linear return between medals and budget is stupid.
Ireland are brutal at Olympic sports. face the facts.

Exactly my point too! If that was the case, we'd bung a billion quid at it and win all of the medals!!

Thats effectively what Britain has done. Obviously there is a direct correlation with funding levels and success. Doesnt take a genius to work that out.

The question is why does Ireland care so little about sport as to not bother funding it ? Presumably because the track record of achievement is so poor they dont see any point ? And why is the track record poor...because unlike a lot of other similar countries mentioned on here Ireland just isnt very good at olympic sport.

super_realist wrote:Ireland finished behind such financial giants as Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Hungary, Jamaica, Ethiopia, and Romania

1 gold (womens boxing) 1 silver and 3 bronze. Pi$$ poor.

If you are to believe Mark Foster Lithuania's Ruta Meilutyte is actually British and therefore Ireland won more medals than Lithuania. Ireland were also ahead of Lithuania on the medal table all the way until the last day when they won gold in the womens modern pentathlon beating the over financed Samantha Murray of Britain into second.

I'm sure the other countries mentioned also comparatively speaking based on budget and resources did much better than Britain too.

super_realist wrote:So the sports you claim Ireland are good at (whatever they are) do they not fund them very well? Do they just rely on talent. Or do they just promise them a life time supply of pota........

Yes and mental strength.

So Ireland were poorly funded and achieved their 5 medal haul on a meagre diet of starchy balls?

Ireland just aren't a sporting nation unless it's egg chucking or horse racing.

Nobody's offending the Irish or any other nation here, it's just a fact Ireland don't achieve much in sport.
Hard to take offence at that.........but then again.

I didn't realise there's some history on this one, Navy! That's hilarious.

For argument's sake, let's just get McIlroy playing for Team GB (and NI) and be done with it.

GunsGerms wrote:

super_realist wrote:Ireland finished behind such financial giants as Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Hungary, Jamaica, Ethiopia, and Romania

1 gold (womens boxing) 1 silver and 3 bronze. Pi$$ poor.

If you are to believe Mark Foster Lithuania's Ruta Meilutyte is actually British and therefore Ireland won more medals than Lithuania. Ireland were also ahead of Lithuania on the medal table all the way until the last day when they won gold in the womens modern pentathlon beating the over financed Samantha Murray of Britain into second.

I'm sure the other countries mentioned also comparatively speaking based on budget and resources did much better than Britain too.

Nobody did believe him as he was making a joke. Its amazing that you can take a throwaway comment so literally and yet are quite happy to make up stupid statements like Ireland do well for themselves at the Olympics.

super_realist wrote:So Ireland were poorly funded and achieved their 5 medal haul on a meagre diet of starchy balls?

Ireland just aren't a sporting nation unless it's egg chucking or horse racing.

Nobody's offending the Irish or any other nation here, it's just a fact Ireland don't achieve much in sport.
Hard to take offence at that.........but then again.

Yeah I agree no offense taken. You are making yourself look pretty stupid as usual though. Your choice.

JeffCarnage wrote:I didn't realise there's some history on this one, Navy! That's hilarious.

For argument's sake, let's just get McIlroy playing for Team GB (and NI) and be done with it.

Yep. See:

https://www.606v2.com/t34736-mcilroy-declares-for-britain

Diggers wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

super_realist wrote:Ireland finished behind such financial giants as Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Hungary, Jamaica, Ethiopia, and Romania

1 gold (womens boxing) 1 silver and 3 bronze. Pi$$ poor.

If you are to believe Mark Foster Lithuania's Ruta Meilutyte is actually British and therefore Ireland won more medals than Lithuania. Ireland were also ahead of Lithuania on the medal table all the way until the last day when they won gold in the womens modern pentathlon beating the over financed Samantha Murray of Britain into second.

I'm sure the other countries mentioned also comparatively speaking based on budget and resources did much better than Britain too.

Nobody did believe him as he was making a joke. Its amazing that you can take a throwaway comment so literally and yet are quite happy to make up stupid statements like Ireland do well for themselves at the Olympics.

It wasnt a joke he meant it literaly and he repeated it multiple times until Clare Balding effectively metaphorically b1tch slapped him down and corrected him. It was quite embarrasing for him.

I got away with saying the Welsh were inferior to most plant life the other day. Is the modding hit and miss....or are we just allowed to say stuff if its scientifically proven to be correct ?

GunsGerms wrote:

Diggers wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

super_realist wrote:Ireland finished behind such financial giants as Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Hungary, Jamaica, Ethiopia, and Romania

1 gold (womens boxing) 1 silver and 3 bronze. Pi$$ poor.

If you are to believe Mark Foster Lithuania's Ruta Meilutyte is actually British and therefore Ireland won more medals than Lithuania. Ireland were also ahead of Lithuania on the medal table all the way until the last day when they won gold in the womens modern pentathlon beating the over financed Samantha Murray of Britain into second.

I'm sure the other countries mentioned also comparatively speaking based on budget and resources did much better than Britain too.

Nobody did believe him as he was making a joke. Its amazing that you can take a throwaway comment so literally and yet are quite happy to make up stupid statements like Ireland do well for themselves at the Olympics.

It wasnt a joke he meant it literaly and he repeated it multiple times until Clare Balding effectively metaphorically b1tch slapped him down and corrected him. It was quite embarrasing for him.

He really didnt and it really wasnt.

I would be pretty surprised if McIlroy even bothered to go to such a pointless tournament. The best thing he could do is not compete at all that way some English/Scottish golfers may actually win something. He can focus on majors and everyone's happy.

Diggers wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

Diggers wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

super_realist wrote:Ireland finished behind such financial giants as Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Hungary, Jamaica, Ethiopia, and Romania

1 gold (womens boxing) 1 silver and 3 bronze. Pi$$ poor.

If you are to believe Mark Foster Lithuania's Ruta Meilutyte is actually British and therefore Ireland won more medals than Lithuania. Ireland were also ahead of Lithuania on the medal table all the way until the last day when they won gold in the womens modern pentathlon beating the over financed Samantha Murray of Britain into second.

I'm sure the other countries mentioned also comparatively speaking based on budget and resources did much better than Britain too.

Nobody did believe him as he was making a joke. Its amazing that you can take a throwaway comment so literally and yet are quite happy to make up stupid statements like Ireland do well for themselves at the Olympics.

It wasnt a joke he meant it literaly and he repeated it multiple times until Clare Balding effectively metaphorically b1tch slapped him down and corrected him. It was quite embarrasing for him.

He really didnt and it really wasnt.

She can be tough viewing as is but it was fairly akward watching Balding squirm in her seat listening to Foster talking shoite. Car crash TV.

GunsGerms wrote:I would be pretty surprised if McIlroy even bothered to go to such a pointless tournament. The best thing he could do is not compete at all that way some English/Scottish golfers may actually win something. He can focus on majors and everyone's happy.

That's an odd reply, and one I don't particularly agree with.

Firstly, I think the feedback from the golfers has been great, and they can't wait for Brazil. Why would you not want to be involved in the Olympics?

Secondly, 'English/Scottish golfers may actually win something'. You're saying this as if Rory has been winning everything every week! He's hardy prolific.

By prolific, I mean Tiger Woods 2000-2005 prolific.

The Olympics is fairly pointless anyway but already well established professional sports shouldnt be a part of the Micky mouse games for many reasons none less than the fact that an Olympic gold would more than likely rank very low in most golfers wish list given that there are already numerous other bigger better prizes in golf.

GunsGerms wrote:

Diggers wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

Diggers wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

super_realist wrote:Ireland finished behind such financial giants as Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Hungary, Jamaica, Ethiopia, and Romania

1 gold (womens boxing) 1 silver and 3 bronze. Pi$$ poor.

If you are to believe Mark Foster Lithuania's Ruta Meilutyte is actually British and therefore Ireland won more medals than Lithuania. Ireland were also ahead of Lithuania on the medal table all the way until the last day when they won gold in the womens modern pentathlon beating the over financed Samantha Murray of Britain into second.

I'm sure the other countries mentioned also comparatively speaking based on budget and resources did much better than Britain too.

Nobody did believe him as he was making a joke. Its amazing that you can take a throwaway comment so literally and yet are quite happy to make up stupid statements like Ireland do well for themselves at the Olympics.

It wasnt a joke he meant it literaly and he repeated it multiple times until Clare Balding effectively metaphorically b1tch slapped him down and corrected him. It was quite embarrasing for him.

He really didnt and it really wasnt.

She can be tough viewing as is but it was fairly akward watching Balding squirm in her seat listening to Foster talking shoite. Car crash TV.

I watched it, it was a simple misunderstanding. You really are making a mountain out of a molehill but lets face it you dont have very many other Olympic memories.
And by the way Balding was in most peoples with half a brains comfortably the best commentator at the Games. Maybe the irish dont get her, like they dont get many gold medals.

GunsGerms wrote:The Olympics is fairly pointless anyway

Ah..... We may have uncovered the reason the Irish haven't done very well in the Olympics. Because they don't see the point in it. Even more reason for Rory to represent GB and NI.

Cheers

Diggers wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

Diggers wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

Diggers wrote:

GunsGerms wrote:

super_realist wrote:Ireland finished behind such financial giants as Lithuania, Kazakhstan, Hungary, Jamaica, Ethiopia, and Romania

1 gold (womens boxing) 1 silver and 3 bronze. Pi$$ poor.

If you are to believe Mark Foster Lithuania's Ruta Meilutyte is actually British and therefore Ireland won more medals than Lithuania. Ireland were also ahead of Lithuania on the medal table all the way until the last day when they won gold in the womens modern pentathlon beating the over financed Samantha Murray of Britain into second.

I'm sure the other countries mentioned also comparatively speaking based on budget and resources did much better than Britain too.

Nobody did believe him as he was making a joke. Its amazing that you can take a throwaway comment so literally and yet are quite happy to make up stupid statements like Ireland do well for themselves at the Olympics.

It wasnt a joke he meant it literaly and he repeated it multiple times until Clare Balding effectively metaphorically b1tch slapped him down and corrected him. It was quite embarrasing for him.

He really didnt and it really wasnt.

She can be tough viewing as is but it was fairly akward watching Balding squirm in her seat listening to Foster talking shoite. Car crash TV.

I watched it, it was a simple misunderstanding. You really are making a mountain out of a molehill but lets face it you dont have very many other Olympic memories.
And by the way Balding was in most peoples with half a brains comfortably the best commentator at the Games. Maybe the irish dont get her, like they dont get many gold medals.

I didnt say she wasnt a good commentator she obviously is because she understands the difference between a British swimer and a Lithuanian one unlike captain slow Foster. A bit like the British olympic officials that dont know the difference between North and south Korea. All I said was she isnt great to look at.

Sigh........if the Foster thing makes you fele better then fair enough. But really you Irish should go easy on him, you have a lot in common. He went to a lot of Olympic Games and underachieved massively as well.
And its a fair point about the Korean flag mix up, I mean anymore mistakes like that and people will start making up jokes about how thick English people are.....

Diggers wrote:I got away with saying the Welsh were inferior to most plant life the other day. Is the modding hit and miss....or are we just allowed to say stuff if its scientifically proven to be correct ?

Seriously though, I can't recall if there was come-back on your comment. If no-one bit and no-one complains, it gets to stay in my book. Just thought the jousting here is getting a bit too far towards being insulting for the Hell of it is all.

To the Irish lads. I would not bother replying to Super-Realist anymore, he is nothing but a wind up merchant and 90% or his vitriol is aimed at the Irish, which makes him a racist in my book.

First of all, It isn't remotely vitriolic and is mostly just a gentle harmless dig at the over sensitivity, lack of humour, absence of self deprecation, blatant one eyed rose tinted flag waving and unreasoned protectionism exhibited on here from certain Irish quarters , as well as laughing at the obvious sporting ineptitude of the Irish and secondly Hogie, you can't be racist against something that isn't a race. The Irish are simply not a race, simple, but not a race.

Agreed Hogie, the phrase "don't wrestle with a pig, as you will both get dirty. But the pig likes it". Is very apt in this regard.

He often says he wants to be British and not Scottish, which implies he wants to associate himself with the achievements of the English and Welsh? I don't think Britain was built by glory hunters who want to associate themselves with the achievements of others. But there you go, I suppose he's a big shot on an internet forum. Im sure his grand kids will be proud.

Actually I've never said I want to be British. I've always said I don't like being Scottish. Not the same thing at all. Although if being British is the only other option then I'm happy to take that.
It doesn't mean I'm a glory hunter, just a geopolitical fact and the defacto position for a disaffected person not gullible enough to swallow the bigoted dogma of the SNP. You could hardly accuse me of being a Welsh glory hunter. They are as hopeless as the Irish.