Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
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Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
I am desperate for Price to face someone who won't fall over when he hits them with bombs. Someone who will tag him, someone who can go the distance, someone as big as him. Someone to answer the question......how good is David Price?
Price is the better talent but Wach has proved he has the attributes to go the distance with a powerful skilled fighter.
All indications, so far, albeit against domestic level fighters, is that Price is a HW champ in the making.
A Wach-Price fight will certainly tell us if Price has the potential to become the world beater many think he will become.
Is Price ready for that fight now? How do you see it going? How would Price have taken the punch that "troubled" Wlad? etc etc...
Price is the better talent but Wach has proved he has the attributes to go the distance with a powerful skilled fighter.
All indications, so far, albeit against domestic level fighters, is that Price is a HW champ in the making.
A Wach-Price fight will certainly tell us if Price has the potential to become the world beater many think he will become.
Is Price ready for that fight now? How do you see it going? How would Price have taken the punch that "troubled" Wlad? etc etc...
TheMackemMawler- Posts : 2606
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
I think Price wins via KO.
Wlad could have got Wach out of there after round 8 if he wanted.
Price is more vicious then Wlad at the moment and his punches seem to hurt. A lot.
Wlad could have got Wach out of there after round 8 if he wanted.
Price is more vicious then Wlad at the moment and his punches seem to hurt. A lot.
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
I'll keep my mouth shut about Price KO'ing him.
I haven't seen the Wlad fight yet so I'm just posting on the back of others comments.
I haven't seen the Wlad fight yet so I'm just posting on the back of others comments.
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
Wach was awful last night but he took wladamir's best, and I mean his best, shots from the first to the last as even when out on his feet he took the kind of shot that drops wladamir's previous opponents
It would be a learning fight and could prove very tough going. Price has yet to go any distance yet in his career and having someone you can knock out or clinch can really drain your stamina like Wlad found out in parts last night
Price is slightly bigger than Wlad and while not as good, he has a similar style, quick hands and a higher guard than wlads low left hand and can almost match him for power. You may say price is blowing over cans but you can see that the guy has obvious thudding power
Can he stop wach, maybe. Not because he hits harder than Wlad but I don't feel wach can take as much punishment as he did last night and price is also more likely to take a risk. Wlad could have got wach out and the ref almost did, but the fights was begging for a body shot that price has in his arsenal.
If wach can survive it will tell us alot of price's stamina and chin as he does carry a decent dig himself
It would be a learning fight and could prove very tough going. Price has yet to go any distance yet in his career and having someone you can knock out or clinch can really drain your stamina like Wlad found out in parts last night
Price is slightly bigger than Wlad and while not as good, he has a similar style, quick hands and a higher guard than wlads low left hand and can almost match him for power. You may say price is blowing over cans but you can see that the guy has obvious thudding power
Can he stop wach, maybe. Not because he hits harder than Wlad but I don't feel wach can take as much punishment as he did last night and price is also more likely to take a risk. Wlad could have got wach out and the ref almost did, but the fights was begging for a body shot that price has in his arsenal.
If wach can survive it will tell us alot of price's stamina and chin as he does carry a decent dig himself
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:
Price is slightly bigger than Wlad and while not as good, he has a similar style, quick hands and a higher guard than wlads low left hand and can almost match him for power. You may say price is blowing over cans but you can see that the guy has obvious thudding power
If wach can survive it will tell us alot of price's stamina and chin as he does carry a decent dig himself
Price has great power but we've only seen it released on cans.
Price's stamina and chin are the two remaining questions that need answering. Is Wach the man to test it?
Chisora will test his stamina and chin also. However, he will do so, in a different way to the big tall guy's like Helenius and Wach; who'd better prepare him for K2.
All in all, at the rate Price is going, its more likely Boystov will be Champ by the time he challenges.
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I wouldn't say Sam Sexton or McDermott were "cans" to be honest.
Sexton had only ever been stopped on his feet, and that was against Chisira who has fought at world level.
Price hammered him.
Also, McDermott "beat" Fury in the first fight and was knocked out late on in the 2nd fight.
Price went and wiped him out in a round when it was supposed to be a test (compared to Fury).
Price has genuine power against decent operators.
Would like him to step up after Sexton against the likes of Helenius/Chagaev/Boytsov/Wach.
Sexton had only ever been stopped on his feet, and that was against Chisira who has fought at world level.
Price hammered him.
Also, McDermott "beat" Fury in the first fight and was knocked out late on in the 2nd fight.
Price went and wiped him out in a round when it was supposed to be a test (compared to Fury).
Price has genuine power against decent operators.
Would like him to step up after Sexton against the likes of Helenius/Chagaev/Boytsov/Wach.
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Wach would be a great fight, it would give a legitimate comparison between Klitschko and Price.
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
mobilemaster8 wrote:I wouldn't say Sam Sexton or McDermott were "cans" to be honest.
Ok, decent domestic level opposition far removed from the world scene, more than likely viewed as cans in Europe and the rest of the world; if not in this country.
Price has world class power, we just need to see if he can use it against world class operators.
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
I agree, insofar as Price desperately needs some rounds in the bank. A tough, iron-chinned foe who can take what he's got for at least a few rounds would be perfect for him right now. That's why I wouldn't mind seeing him in there with Chisora, although he obviously has licence issues still, and needs to actually start winning again before featuring in anything remotely close to a 'big' fight.
I think Price and his team could do a lote worse than a Wach kind of fighter in early 2013, to be honest. I imagine that Wach himself will be seen as too big a step at this stage, annoying as that may be, but as long as it's someone who can at least make Price think and pace himself a little, it'll be worthwhile.
I think Price and his team could do a lote worse than a Wach kind of fighter in early 2013, to be honest. I imagine that Wach himself will be seen as too big a step at this stage, annoying as that may be, but as long as it's someone who can at least make Price think and pace himself a little, it'll be worthwhile.
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
To get Price coverage over the water I'd substitute Chisora for Arreola.
Realistically there's no one left in England for him to fight (Fury won't happen anytime soon), so it has to be a step up and onto Europe. Wawrzyk is in need of an opponent next month, Price should take that. Wawryk is a good mover but seems fragile at times. If Price can get to him, its a KO win. It would be nice to see if Price is able to land and against a large mobile "Boxer" sucj as the pole.
I'd match him against the fairly durable Sosnowski next, then the winner of Chagaev vs Perez. If he gets past that, onto the likes of Helenius Dimetrenko and Pulev, if he wins those onto Povetkin and the world title. Then defenses against Mitchel, Wilder and Fury.
Wishful thinking.
Realistically there's no one left in England for him to fight (Fury won't happen anytime soon), so it has to be a step up and onto Europe. Wawrzyk is in need of an opponent next month, Price should take that. Wawryk is a good mover but seems fragile at times. If Price can get to him, its a KO win. It would be nice to see if Price is able to land and against a large mobile "Boxer" sucj as the pole.
I'd match him against the fairly durable Sosnowski next, then the winner of Chagaev vs Perez. If he gets past that, onto the likes of Helenius Dimetrenko and Pulev, if he wins those onto Povetkin and the world title. Then defenses against Mitchel, Wilder and Fury.
Wishful thinking.
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Price versus Haye needs to happen. An English tear-up, an absolute war for up to five rounds. Then we'll see what Price is made of.
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
Wach would be a good opponent for Price I think. Id favour moving him on a bit more quickly. When you have blasted out Dallas, McDermott, Sexton and Audley in a handful of rounds then its difficult to see what an ancient Skelton offers in terms of development.
If Price was, at any point, serious about a Fury fight in the past then Wach shouldnt neccessarily be considered a bridge too far. I fear the problem Price might develop is that he becomes a fighter thats avoided because of his size and power. Not many people on the way up will want to meet him in the queue and those ahead of him are unlikely to want to risk facing him.
If Price was, at any point, serious about a Fury fight in the past then Wach shouldnt neccessarily be considered a bridge too far. I fear the problem Price might develop is that he becomes a fighter thats avoided because of his size and power. Not many people on the way up will want to meet him in the queue and those ahead of him are unlikely to want to risk facing him.
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
I'd match him against the fairly durable Sosnowski next, then the winner of Chagaev vs Perez. If he gets past that, onto the likes of Helenius Dimetrenko and Pulev, if he wins those onto Povetkin and the world title. Then defenses against Mitchel, Wilder and Fury.
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Anyone want to let me in on what's so special about either Seth Mitchell or Deontay Wilder? From what little I've seen of them (which I believe will be pretty much the same as what everyone else has seen - late night on Chanel Five or ESPN) they're unremarkable in the extreme.
Price beats Wach by doing what Wlad couldn't do...namely going to the body and then the head. In the 8th Wlad threw a flurry of punches that was reminiscent of the Calzaghe/Manfredo fiasco (lots thrown - nowt landed). For the supposed best HW on the planet, he looked woeful at times. As Frank Maloney and Tim Witherspoon alluded to in the studio afterwards, what exactly had Manny Steward been doing with him for nine years because it certainly wasn't learning how to finish a fighter who's hurt.
I think Price has more variety in his punches and for a big man, knows how to work the body. He shortens his punches well and dips his knees when throwing those body shots. How many times did Wlad go to the body on Saturday? Six? Seven?
As for a fight with Wlad, if Price can get inside the jab and work the body, Wlad will struggle. Of course, getting past the jab is the key and the likelihood is that he'll have to eat a few big shots along the way but if he CAN get inside, I think he'll fare pretty well.
I do think Price needs to fight someone in the top ten first and then look to secure a fight with Wlad in the Summer. If Wach can get a shot based on beating Keving McBride and Tye Fields, I'm sure Price can get on on the back of Audley and Skelton plus one other.
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Anyone want to let me in on what's so special about either Seth Mitchell or Deontay Wilder? From what little I've seen of them (which I believe will be pretty much the same as what everyone else has seen - late night on Chanel Five or ESPN) they're unremarkable in the extreme.
Price beats Wach by doing what Wlad couldn't do...namely going to the body and then the head. In the 8th Wlad threw a flurry of punches that was reminiscent of the Calzaghe/Manfredo fiasco (lots thrown - nowt landed). For the supposed best HW on the planet, he looked woeful at times. As Frank Maloney and Tim Witherspoon alluded to in the studio afterwards, what exactly had Manny Steward been doing with him for nine years because it certainly wasn't learning how to finish a fighter who's hurt.
I think Price has more variety in his punches and for a big man, knows how to work the body. He shortens his punches well and dips his knees when throwing those body shots. How many times did Wlad go to the body on Saturday? Six? Seven?
As for a fight with Wlad, if Price can get inside the jab and work the body, Wlad will struggle. Of course, getting past the jab is the key and the likelihood is that he'll have to eat a few big shots along the way but if he CAN get inside, I think he'll fare pretty well.
I do think Price needs to fight someone in the top ten first and then look to secure a fight with Wlad in the Summer. If Wach can get a shot based on beating Keving McBride and Tye Fields, I'm sure Price can get on on the back of Audley and Skelton plus one other.
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
Who has Price beaten that is better than anyone on Wilder's record...Wilder didnt have many amateur fights and started boxing late which is why he is taking it slowly in the pro ranks to learn more.
Adam Booth, David Haye and Wladimir Klitschko all rate Wilder and think he is a future world champion so that is good enough for me.
Adam Booth, David Haye and Wladimir Klitschko all rate Wilder and think he is a future world champion so that is good enough for me.
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
The genius of PBF wrote:Who has Price beaten that is better than anyone on Wilder's record...
Everyone that he has probably fought! Take that you haven't seen many of Wilder's fights. Some of the them wouldn't look out of place taking place outside a club allyway.
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Re: Price needs a Wach on the Whiskers.
while ive not got great knowledge of the domestic american heavyweight scene i would argue the likes of sexton, mcdermott and yes even audley have better records than of what wilder has been beating. mcdermott after all should probably have a win against fury on his record.
i agree that i think a wach fight would be a good test for price where he is now (sounds very strange to say that about a guy who's just been lined up to take on the best at the weight) he's easy to hit but has a great chin, holds power himself and poses size problems to price but a fight in which price should come through. i see him blowing chisora away if im honest, haye knocked him out dont see why price wouldnt and chisora offers nothing in terms of attack. although both fights still better than skelton
i agree that i think a wach fight would be a good test for price where he is now (sounds very strange to say that about a guy who's just been lined up to take on the best at the weight) he's easy to hit but has a great chin, holds power himself and poses size problems to price but a fight in which price should come through. i see him blowing chisora away if im honest, haye knocked him out dont see why price wouldnt and chisora offers nothing in terms of attack. although both fights still better than skelton
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I'd be happy if price stepped in with any ex opponent of either into from the last 5 years. Even someone as bad as tony Thomson. It's time for price to be put in the picture comparatively with a cross over opponent, even if it's a low risk one. It'll certainly help him marketability. Skelton is a joke fight. An audley rematch would have as much meaning.
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just like every other weight - we see a boxers KO ratio drop when they step up.
of course the tomato cans have been dropping. when he steps up the KOs may not come as freely.
of course the tomato cans have been dropping. when he steps up the KOs may not come as freely.
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DAVE667 wrote:I'd match him against the fairly durable Sosnowski next, then the winner of Chagaev vs Perez. If he gets past that, onto the likes of Helenius Dimetrenko and Pulev, if he wins those onto Povetkin and the world title. Then defenses against Mitchel, Wilder and Fury.
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Anyone want to let me in on what's so special about either Seth Mitchell or Deontay Wilder? From what little I've seen of them (which I believe will be pretty much the same as what everyone else has seen - late night on Chanel Five or ESPN) they're unremarkable in the extreme.
Theres nothing special at all. They are hyped in America, very beatable, and if he keeps them as defenses (should he win a title) then they would be a very good little earner, same with Fury. Of course Wilder, Mitchel and Fury would have to be matched correctly between then and now for maximum earning potential.
BTW I actually think Wilder has it in him to be quite good.
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