Another Drive4show 'Anything goes' thread

[mystiroakey]

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Mac your beiing an idiot there mate.. NBS at best is on some pedantic mission at the moment- at best arguing symatics..

Don't be a plank. There's nothing semantic in what I've said. You always say I'm arguing semantics when you don't get what I'm talking about!
You're right re. the spaghetti, butter and TK. It's not great but it's not as bad, nutritionally, as is being made out. As I said before, if they ate that occasionally, what's the issue? If they eat it every day? That's another matter.

its disgusting- the family is overweight.. they should not be eating that sort of food ever! the fact that they even ''like' that sort of food is a big problem.

the mother said she was raised on it!

That is there stock spaghetti dish!

Jamie oliver needs to be sent to that family- its an emergency i tell ya!

[mystiroakey]

cheers srock, kwini!

[navyblueshorts]

OMG ibram has jjust scored his 4th goal v us

but what a goal!!!!

class player

Makes a change for him to actually look like the world class player he's failed to be so far. Obviously got the talent but he's rarely justified his price tag IMO.
Made a mess of Gerrard's 100th cap .

[navyblueshorts]

Does anyone other than me think that Peter Herbert is a prat?

[mystiroakey]

what the martin luther king of football!!!

[super_realist]

OMG ibram has jjust scored his 4th goal v us

but what a goal!!!!

class player

Makes a change for him to actually look like the world class player he's failed to be so far. Obviously got the talent but he's rarely justified his price tag IMO.
Made a mess of Gerrard's 100th cap .

Easy to look world class against England

Has Gerrard, he of no forehead, ever had a good game in his 100 caps? He seems to have sailed through in total anonymity.

[navyblueshorts]

Easy to look world class against England

Has Gerrard, he of no forehead, ever had a good game in his 100 caps? He seems to have sailed through in total anonymity.

Sadly, I fear you're right there! Gerrard's had the odd good game but he's hardly in the same class as Zidane, Figo, Der Kaiser etc is he? Still, beggars can't be choosers and I don't see a great deal better who's England-qualified do you?

[incontinentia]

...As for the bbc, to be honest i wasn't expecting much from an organisation that harbours paedophiles...

Oh give over and stop being such a drama queen. You'll be one of those Sun-readers that thinks all this Savile stuff has been 'proven' when it couldn't be further from the truth then? Even if there were paedophiles at the Beeb, that's a long away from the Beeb actually 'harbouring' them knowingly.

navy- even the cops are saying Savile was one of the most prolific child abusers in UK history. The people at the bbc all knew and did nothing, if thats not harbouring...

I'm fearful of bringing Ireland back into the conversation but I think a 1-0 away loss to the greeks was a good result for us last night, they are like 11th in the world rankings so not too shabby.

[super_realist]

Easy to look world class against England

Has Gerrard, he of no forehead, ever had a good game in his 100 caps? He seems to have sailed through in total anonymity.

Sadly, I fear you're right there! Gerrard's had the odd good game but he's hardly in the same class as Zidane, Figo, Der Kaiser etc is he? Still, beggars can't be choosers and I don't see a great deal better who's England-qualified do you?

I think England ought to be more worried about shipping 4 (FOUR) goals against a team who are on the same level as them, if they came up against a proper team they'd get gubbed.

[Diggers]

Talk about reading too much into a friendly. England were playing well last night, taking Gerrard off changed the face of the game, plus Hart had a bit of a mare but I can forgive that happening to him in a friendly.
I dont think anyone is going to lose too much sleep over last night, cracking finish by the Ibrahimovich for the last goal.
Incontinentia, the sad thing is I think you probably care more about supposed slight of harrington than whether the BBC harbours paedpophiles. Or have you written to them about Saville as well ?

[super_realist]

Agreed Diggers, it was merely a friendly, albeit against a team of equal standing.
What is good is that Hodgson doesn't seem scared to make changes and bring new people in.

Dare I say it, but I think he's too intelligent a manager.

[Diggers]

I dont think he has much choice but to bring new players in. Im not too sure everyone he is picking is good enough but a few of them have some promise. Its important that players like Wilshire and Cleverly are playing regularly for their clubs, we need a fewplayers who like posession.
I wish he would stop playing Sturridge though, he is useless.

[super_realist]

You've certainly got a wealth of players, good that Hodgson doesn't care about big names. England have traditionally picked the biggest names in the past regardless of whether they were the best players for the position and then tried to shoe-horn them into a formation. That never worked before, I think his approach is better, though I doubt he'll be given the time it will take to see an improvement in tournaments.
I don't think the FA, Media and a section of fans have the patience and are over expectant of what is realistically achievable.

[Diggers]

If we qualify I dont think anyone will realistically expect much in Brazil 2014.
Conditions will be perfect for either Spain or Brazil or Argentina. Could be the tournament where Messi announces himself as a true great at club and international level.

[incontinentia]

Diggers you are way out of line. Savile and harrington are issues that are not even remotely related, don't be a tom-fool.

[navyblueshorts]

...navy- even the cops are saying Savile was one of the most prolific child abusers in UK history. The people at the bbc all knew and did nothing, if thats not harbouring....

You see, the problem with people like you is you haven't seen any evidence or seen it challenged in a court. As for the police, well, the police 'knew' that six Birmingham Irish men were terrorists in the 70s didn't they? There's nothing that you've seen which proves that people at the BBC 'all knew and did nothing'. Your logic is the sort of thing which led to a paediatrician's house being torched when that scumbag Rebekah Brooks released the so-say details of paedophiles to the public.

[super_realist]

Diggers you are way out of line. Savile and harrington are issues that are not even remotely related, don't be a tom-fool.

Yet you were the one who compared the use of the word Leprechaun or "luck of the irish" with the "N" word or Jews being offended by talk of the holocaust. Hilarious juxtaposition.

[navyblueshorts]

One other thing Incont. It would appear that all the internet gossips 'knew' that Lord McAlpine was a p a edophile......except he wasn't was he?

[super_realist]

I hear that Incontinentia complained to the BBC when watching Saturday Kitchen and the word "potato" was mentioned.

[gaelgowfer]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/15/ireland-medieval-abortion-law-savita?intcmp=239

To her family, I want to say: I am ashamed, I am culpable, and I am sorry. For every letter to my local politician I didn't write, for every protest I didn't join, for keeping quiet about abortion rights in the company of conservative relations and friends, for becoming complacent, for thinking that Ireland was changing, for not working hard enough to secure that change, for failing to create a society in which your wife, your daughter, your sister was able to access the care that she needed: I am sorry. You must think that we are barbarians.

I wonder in Aruglia is sorry too?

[super_realist]

I think he is one of the regular posters who merely set up under a new name to voice his disgust, but did it the cowardly way because he didn't want to be exposed as a religious nut job under his previous name.

[McLaren]

Incon

So you think the Irish people would vote to ban abortion had the catholic church never existed?

If so, what evidence would they use to back the banning of abortion as a logical outcome?

[super_realist]

Interesting point in that article is that the states 95% of people in Leprechaunland are brought up in a Catholic education and indoctrinated to disapprove of abortion.

It's pretty clear that while the church doesn't make the laws on abortion, they have a massive influence on whether people approve of it as a legal act, regardless of whether they are religious as an adult.

[JAS]

So was Sweden's win last night purely down to class and skill or did they carry a bit of the "luck of the Irish"?

[Aruglia]

I wonder in Aruglia is sorry too?

That is a pretty sick comment. What have I to be sorry for? When did I mention anything about abortion or this case? You are truly poisonous individual but as I said previously it's all fuelled by ignorance.

For the record, I am shocked and horrified by what happened in this case and can only hope that action will be taken to make sure it never happens again. As it happens I was only discussing abortion in Ireland with friends on saturday and I was under the impression that there were laws in my country to make sure that what happened in this case didn't happen. So reading reports about this yesterday was shocking to say the least.

Now rather than spread more lies, please explain to me why I should be sorry. For outing you as a hateful liar? Anyone with an ounce of sense can hopefully see that already.

[super_realist]

Aruglia,
Please stop acting like a petulant idiot for a moment, and if you are going to be this way with your fake offence please flounce off to The Guardian forum.

[JAS]

Enough hilarity for me this morning...I'm off to lunch, I would say what I'm going to have with mince for lunch but certain people may get offended so I won't.... laters dudes, dudettes and Leprechauns

[incontinentia]

Navy- "people like you", what do you mean by that? This is the language of discrimination.

Mclaren- i don't know how people would vote if the church never existed, but i am sure that almost everyone under 60 in Ireland are governed by their conscience when voting and not religion. I can't speak for other people but i believe abortion is morally wrong, but exceptions should be made in the cases of r*** or where the mothers life is in danger.
Abortion is a huge issue in the US too but i dont hear them being written off as a nation of half wit bible huggers.

Super, you are so far off the mark its ridiculous. You and diggers have really made yourselves look like jackasses on this thread.

[Diggers]

Super, you are so far off the mark its ridiculous. You and diggers have really made yourselves look like jackasses on this thread.

This from a man who feels he is duty bound to complain to the BBC about a phrase like luck of the Irish and feels that the word leprechaun should be banned. Small minded and petty doesnt even begin to cover it.
Its a shame you werent around during the potato famine, the chip on your shoulder would have easily covered the shortfall.

[navyblueshorts]

Navy- "people like you", what do you mean by that? This is the language of discrimination.

Mclaren- i don't know how people would vote if the church never existed, but i am sure that almost everyone under 60 in Ireland are governed by their conscience when voting and not religion. I can't speak for other people but i believe abortion is morally wrong, but exceptions should be made in the cases of r*** or where the mothers life is in danger.
Abortion is a huge issue in the US too but i dont hear them being written off as a nation of half wit bible huggers.

Super, you are so far off the mark its ridiculous. You and diggers have really made yourselves look like jackasses on this thread.

Don't be a putz. You're being ridiculous and you know it. If not, I feel quite sorry for you - must be quite sad to be constantly on the lookout for the slightest thing that you can be offended by. I mean "people like you" i.e. people who demonstrably won't use factual evidence as a basis for their jumped-up conclusions - was it not clear enough for you before? Did I strike a nerve?
On the subject of US bible-bashers. Of course you hear of them being described with the sweeping generalisations you use above. Do you never see that?
I only see one jackass here at the moment.

[navyblueshorts]

...Its a shame you werent around during the potato famine, the chip on yoru shoulder would have easily covered the shortfall.

I know I should be above this but !

[Aruglia]

I think he is one of the regular posters who merely set up under a new name to voice his disgust, but did it the cowardly way because he didn't want to be exposed as a religious nut job under his previous name.

Paranoid too?? Interesting...

Well, I'm not a regular poster, nor am I religious or a religious nut. I described myself as an Irish Catholic as it was very relevant to the lies being spread by your friend Gael, who I suspect probably is a religious nut and certainly judges people(based on lies) according to the religion they were born into. Apart from that I'm sure she's a hoot.

[gaelgowfer]

Its a shame you werent around during the potato famine, the chip on your shoulder would have easily covered the shortfall..

The king of the one liners strikes again!

[incontinentia]

Wow, someone mocks the Irish famine and not only is he not punished, but he is encouraged by 2 more posters, one of whom is a moderator!!

Think i will take my leave of the golf board, it was fun while it lasted.

[JAS]

Q. Why do oversensitive easily offended people have large chips on both shoulders??

A. To stop any more than just their heads disappearing up their own @r5es!!

[Diggers]

It finished 170 years ago man.......get over it, move on. Good lord, its like being offended when kids in the play ground say you have the plague.
The last people who would even remember it happening died about 100 years ago. Talk about milking it.

[gaelgowfer]

I wonder in Aruglia is sorry too?

That is a pretty sick comment. What have I to be sorry for? When did I mention anything about abortion or this case? You are truly poisonous individual but as I said previously it's all fuelled by ignorance.

For the record, I am shocked and horrified by what happened in this case and can only hope that action will be taken to make sure it never happens again. As it happens I was only discussing abortion in Ireland with friends on saturday and I was under the impression that there were laws in my country to make sure that what happened in this case didn't happen. So reading reports about this yesterday was shocking to say the least.

Now rather than spread more lies, please explain to me why I should be sorry. For outing you as a hateful liar? Anyone with an ounce of sense can hopefully see that already.

Aruglia (or whatever your real posting name is) ... how, pray, am I spreading lies? I didn't write this article. It was written by one your fellow country(wo)men. You've also completely missed the point she was making. She knew the laws on abortion were way too strict in Ireland and all she's saying is that she failed to stand up and try to do something about it. I think it's safe to say, we have ALL been guilty of that as some point in our lives. Question is, what are YOU going to do about it now? Are you sorry enough to contact your local MP (or whatever they're called in Ireland) and demand a change in the law or are you just going to carry on sitting on your thumbs and do NOTHING?

Incidentally, I don't follow a religion. I gave up that nonsense a long time ago. Still trying to resolve within myself the ultimate question of whether or not God exists though. I don't suppose I'll ever reconcile myself on that one, sadly.

[gaelgowfer]

Re the "luck of the irish" stooshie ... I'm absolutely aghast that Agrulia is so offended by the phrase. Indeed, I came to the conclusion that he could only be on the wind up. Seems not to be the case. It's a phrase that has certainly in my experience never been used to knowingly cause offence. Quite the opposite in fact. Ho hum.

It's at times like this that I'm glad 'we' lost at Culloden for I would surely have hated to have been raised in a brainwashed catholic country like Ireland.

[Diggers]

On the whole church front Ive a bit of a conumdrum. We have a C of E primary school at the end of our road, its outstanding Ofsted and historically you had to be a church goer to get in but they have doubled the intake so we have a good shout of our eldest getting in next September.
However as we have another child who would start school later we would probably have to start going to church for a year to guarantee her a place as the fact she would have a sibling at the school still would put her behind the church goers who would apply.
The other school nearby is fine as well but it seems poor form not to give our kids the chance of a very good start to their education.
My worry is they will both enjoy church, I did as a kid, loved sunday school and all the trips without ever feeling remotely religous, and we will end up having to go for years.

[Aruglia]

Aruglia (or whatever your real posting name is) ... how, pray, am I spreading lies? I didn't write this article. It was written by one your fellow country(wo)men. You've also completely missed the point she was making. She knew the laws on abortion were way too strict in Ireland and all she's saying is that she failed to stand up and try to do something about it. I think it's safe to say, we have ALL been guilty of that as some point in our lives. Question is, what are YOU going to do about it now? Are you sorry enough to contact your local MP (or whatever they're called in Ireland) and demand a change in the law or are you just going to carry on sitting on your thumbs and do NOTHING?

Incidentally, I don't follow a religion. I gave up that nonsense a long time ago. Still trying to resolve within myself the ultimate question of whether or not God exists though. I don't suppose I'll ever reconcile myself on that one, sadly.

The lies are in the rubbish you posted yesterday and previously on this thread, though I noticed a lot of this thread has been "cleaned up" since yesterday afternoon. You are clearly a bigot. You like to spread rubbish about the persecution of protestants in the Republic of Ireland. It's completely ridiculous but bigotry none the less. And don't patronise me about what action I should take or how sorry I should feel. You are twisted. Your ignorance is no excuse either. I just hope that at least some of the people that read or contribute to this forum can see that.

[1GrumpyGolfer]

Send Mrs Diggers and you stay home under the pretext of chores etc. If you can nip off for a few holes even better.

[Aruglia]

I would surely have hated to have been raised in a brainwashed catholic country like Ireland.

You and this forum are something else. I'm sure you'll be congratulated for that gem. Maybe I'm just too sensative.

[JAS]

Aruglia (or whatever your real posting name is) ... how, pray, am I spreading lies? I didn't write this article. It was written by one your fellow country(wo)men. You've also completely missed the point she was making. She knew the laws on abortion were way too strict in Ireland and all she's saying is that she failed to stand up and try to do something about it. I think it's safe to say, we have ALL been guilty of that as some point in our lives. Question is, what are YOU going to do about it now? Are you sorry enough to contact your local MP (or whatever they're called in Ireland) and demand a change in the law or are you just going to carry on sitting on your thumbs and do NOTHING?

Incidentally, I don't follow a religion. I gave up that nonsense a long time ago. Still trying to resolve within myself the ultimate question of whether or not God exists though. I don't suppose I'll ever reconcile myself on that one, sadly.

The lies are in the rubbish you posted yesterday and previously on this thread, though I noticed a lot of this thread has been "cleaned up" since yesterday afternoon. You are clearly a bigot. You like to spread rubbish about the persecution of protestants in the Republic of Ireland. It's completely ridiculous but bigotry none the less. And don't patronise me about what action I should take or how sorry I should feel. You are twisted. Your ignorance is no excuse either. I just hope that at least some of the people that read or contribute to this forum can see that.

I think that in psychology terms is what's called a classic case of projection.

[Diggers]

Send Mrs Diggers and you stay home under the pretext of chores etc. If you can nip off for a few holes even better.

Hmm, im sensing thats unlikely to fly with her unfortunately Grumps. She is far more anti church than I am to be honest. Apparently classification of a regular church goer is at least once every month for at least a year. I guess I can live with that.

[Aruglia]

I think that in psychology terms is what's called a classic case of projection.

And that in real terms is 'Hey everyone, Gael might spread hateful lies about a country and it's people but she's all right really'. Jeez.

Incidently, mods or admins or who ever, please free to compare my IP address with any one else on this site. I know no one on this site and can only assume they are no where near my goegraphical location. Just to dispell some more of Gael's - you guessed it - lies.

[Diggers]

Aruglia, thats a ridiculous statement...I can assure you nobody on here has ever claimed that Gael is alright really !!!

[navyblueshorts]

Wow, someone mocks the Irish famine and not only is he not punished, but he is encouraged by 2 more posters, one of whom is a moderator!!

Think i will take my leave of the golf board, it was fun while it lasted.

Grow up! Don't let the door hit you on the way out....

[Bob_the_Job]

We've had this same pattern at least 5 times now....

(1) Person 1 points out something, expressing an opinion and probably overstating a position or quoting a slightly tired or out of date stereotype.

(2) Person 2 gets all upset and replies in an angry fashion, using emotive language and implying Person 1 has all sorts of unpleasant character traits.

(3) Persons 3 and/or 4 chip in from the sidelines in basic support for either Person 1 or Person 2

(4) Jihad and hilarity ensues.

Options:
(a) Mods tell everyone to calm down

(b) Someone storms off, vowing never to return

(c) it all dies down, only for someone who has been away for a bit to innocently ask "What was that all about..." or "Where did so-and-so go"... Return to Step 1.

[navyblueshorts]

The lies are in the rubbish you posted yesterday and previously on this thread, though I noticed a lot of this thread has been "cleaned up" since yesterday afternoon. You are clearly a bigot. You like to spread rubbish about the persecution of protestants in the Republic of Ireland. It's completely ridiculous but bigotry none the less. And don't patronise me about what action I should take or how sorry I should feel. You are twisted. Your ignorance is no excuse either. I just hope that at least some of the people that read or contribute to this forum can see that.

There's been no 'cleaning up' here that I know of. I think you're imagining what you want to imagine in that instance. You're obviously pretty bright and yet you take it out on gael despite the fact that she wasn't the one that wrote the articles she's been referencing. I'm not sure, given what you've so far written, that you've explained why what she's said is twisted, let alone bigoted. Come on, educate us heathens...

[hend085]

are you still an admin/mod NBS?

[Diggers]

We've had this same pattern at least 5 times now....

(1) Person 1 points out something, expressing an opinion and probably overstating a position or quoting a slightly tired or out of date stereotype.

(2) Person 2 gets all upset and replies in an angry fashion, using emotive language and implying Person 1 has all sorts of unpleasant character traits.

(3) Persons 3 and/or 4 chip in from the sidelines in basic support for either Person 1 or Person 2

(4) Jihad and hilarity ensues.

Options:
(a) Mods tell everyone to calm down

(b) Someone storms off, vowing never to return

(c) it all dies down, only for someone who has been away for a bit to innocently ask "What was that all about..." or "Where did so-and-so go"... Return to Step 1.

Well its either this or long putters.....

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