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Post by Afro Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:28 pm

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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:29 pm

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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:40 pm

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Post by FIFA Diva Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:40 pm

Then why is it people on here Moan that others are living in the past when it comes to ratings. Olly just the other day annoyed that Marky was rating Pirlo from June time rather then current form.

So which is it do we rate a player what he has currently done or rate him when he once was decent.
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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:41 pm

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Post by Afro Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:43 pm

I said the other day that I rate on current and past form, with the further back I go, the less influence it has. But I don't really go past a couple of seasons unless a player has been out injured, and then I base it on last time I saw them and then bring it down based on my own common sense assessment of the situation.


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Post by Afro Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:43 pm

New media questions up too
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Post by sodhat Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:43 pm

Both, but more so on what he's currently done.

But that's the problem - Wilshere was injured, so there is no sample other than how he performed when he was actually playing. So you have to use that for now, until we see more of him this year. If he stinks up the joint, fair enough, throw him under the bus for all I care - he's no Mark Noble anyway.

My only problem is blindness to the fact he was good before he was injured, as if it never happened.

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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:45 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:New media questions up too

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Post by Hero Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:50 pm

sodhat wrote:Both, but more so on what he's currently done.

But that's the problem - Wilshere was injured, so there is no sample other than how he performed when he was actually playing. So you have to use that for now, until we see more of him this year. If he stinks up the joint, fair enough, throw him under the bus for all I care - he's no Mark Noble anyway.

My only problem is blindness to the fact he was good before he was injured, as if it never happened.

ie you use common sense?

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Post by FIFA Diva Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:54 pm

Hi CF, how are you pal.
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Post by sodhat Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:55 pm

Hero wrote:
sodhat wrote:Both, but more so on what he's currently done.

But that's the problem - Wilshere was injured, so there is no sample other than how he performed when he was actually playing. So you have to use that for now, until we see more of him this year. If he stinks up the joint, fair enough, throw him under the bus for all I care - he's no Mark Noble anyway.

My only problem is blindness to the fact he was good before he was injured, as if it never happened.

ie you use common sense?

In theory...but it seems like my method is less common round here, so perhaps I'm the one looking at it wrong.

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Post by GSC Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:56 pm

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Post by FIFA Diva Wed 14 Nov 2012, 4:57 pm

I have to admit I'm jealous of Arsenal, Wilshere is a class player and will become one of the best. Think Iniesta but with bite.
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Post by sodhat Wed 14 Nov 2012, 5:01 pm

And a smaller forehead.

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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 5:03 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Hi CF, how are you pal.

not too bad mate u?

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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 5:04 pm

so guys, where do you think i should strengthen first?

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Post by Afro Wed 14 Nov 2012, 5:08 pm

Azzy - do you remember persuading Viva you were from Pakistan, in spite of your Facebook pic
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Post by FIFA Diva Wed 14 Nov 2012, 5:11 pm

I'm good CF, my dream is to see you bull cherries and Olly back in the league at the same time it'd make my life complete.

I would love to see Wilshere at United the only player who can replace him and unlike Scholes not a liability in getting sent off when we're under pressure or on the back foot. How many players can say they've performed better then Xavi and Iniesta in the same match Scholes yet to do that. Wilshere done it one season.
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Post by FIFA Diva Wed 14 Nov 2012, 5:14 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:Azzy - do you remember persuading Viva you were from Pakistan, in spite of your Facebook pic

Haha yeah I do, I used to send him love poems on Xbox off some famous Pakistani poet.
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Post by Hero Wed 14 Nov 2012, 5:18 pm

Iniesta always reminds of the guy from Ghostbusters 2
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 14 Nov 2012, 5:19 pm

Oh jesus christ my lord
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Post by Trebs Wed 14 Nov 2012, 5:53 pm

Why the hell are we having this debate? Wilshere isn't anywhere near Cleverley's level Laugh

Cleverley is a key part of the current England side and has the ability and the mental attitude. He will be a key part of the Man Utd midfield for years to come. Wilshere was a decent midfielder who had a good run of form. But, right now, he's nothing. He needs to prove himself once more in order to get any sort of rating. If he does that, then around New Year I may rate him higher. But at the moment, I would have Cleverley in my team over Wilshere.

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Post by GSC Wed 14 Nov 2012, 6:01 pm

Cleverley is the most overrated player in the PL. The only thing I remember him doing was mishitting a cross.

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Post by ncfc_Tooze Wed 14 Nov 2012, 6:02 pm

Is It 7:30 Kick Off Tonight?

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Post by Gregers Wed 14 Nov 2012, 6:07 pm

Anyone want zouma? One of the best young cbs in the world...

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Post by Trebs Wed 14 Nov 2012, 6:08 pm

Yes OK

What do you want?

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Post by Gregers Wed 14 Nov 2012, 6:40 pm

Beat his lawyers offer, or even better cash and/or a cf

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Post by GSC Wed 14 Nov 2012, 6:52 pm

This Diwali stuff is kinda annoying now.

Might come back on boxing day and set off fireworks 5 nights in a row in the asian part of Leicester.
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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 7:55 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:Azzy - do you remember persuading Viva you were from Pakistan, in spite of your Facebook pic
Haha yeah, I was a bit out of my depth there Laugh

England are playing rubbish!

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Post by Fernando Wed 14 Nov 2012, 7:57 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:
BigFellasAfro wrote:Azzy - do you remember persuading Viva you were from Pakistan, in spite of your Facebook pic
Haha yeah, I was a bit out of my depth there Laugh

England are playing rubbish!

You sound like your watching England for the 1st time we're always rubbish in friendlies it's all Cleverley's fault we'd be winning if Wilshere was playing Whistle

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Post by Hero Wed 14 Nov 2012, 7:58 pm

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What's the point in playing Hart in these games?
So he can look like the most unbeatable keeper ever to grace the sport of football?

As Ibrahimovic blasts one past him?

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Post by GSC Wed 14 Nov 2012, 7:58 pm

We're always rubbish full stop
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Post by Guest Wed 14 Nov 2012, 8:06 pm

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Post by GSC Wed 14 Nov 2012, 8:11 pm

She wants you to have a mediocre time so she can do things while youre distracted?
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Post by sodhat Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:21 pm

Oh. My. Lord.

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Post by Hero Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:22 pm

Hero wrote:
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What's the point in playing Hart in these games?
So he can look like the most unbeatable keeper ever to grace the sport of football?

As Ibrahimovic blasts four past him?

Fixed

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Post by FIFA Diva Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:24 pm

What the Frak was that?
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Post by Hero Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:26 pm

The Ibrahimovic show

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Post by sodhat Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:29 pm

Just an impossible goal. I struggle to think of any better. The technique was flawless.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:36 pm

Funny that Osman looked very good tonight. Maybe picking in form players is the way to go, no matter who they play for in the Prem...
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Post by Hero Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:37 pm

I think he's one of the most underrated players by armchair fans tbh.

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Post by GSC Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:42 pm

Grant Holt is still terrible
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:44 pm

Not suggesting Holt, he burnt that bridge, but there are other in form English players in the Prem who don't get picked (Lambert, Noble, Nolan being examples) and yet players like Shelvey and Cleverley do. Maybe if we picked players who were playing week in week out and playing well, maybe, just maybe we would do better?
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Post by GSC Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:47 pm

Lambert and Nolan would be terrible and would set England back having to play the long ball system.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:49 pm

Have you not noticed that Lambert is a very clever player, with very good vision and touch? Southampton don't exactly play long ball do they now?

And it's not as if Nolan has been effective in the Prem for 3 teams?
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Post by Hero Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:54 pm

We're hardly moving forward though by bringing the likes of Nolan into the fold. Those type of players are why we're 20 years behind the continent.
When I go to watch my son train it winds me up something chronic when 20 minutes into training and half the children have yet to even touch a football and all they've done are running exercises etc. immediately as they get there they should have a ball each and it should be with them for the entire session.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:55 pm

Ok maybe Nolan was the wrong example, Noble would be a better one
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Post by Hero Wed 14 Nov 2012, 9:59 pm

Has anyone seen the room Dortmund have for improving reaction times and awareness?

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