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Post by Guest Sat 17 Nov 2012, 7:26 pm

First topic message reminder :

The discussion(s) continue here guys.

Unbelievable win for the Canaries tonight which see's Man City top for the first time this season, will they hold on.

QPR - still without a win - look doomed and Aston Villa drop into the bottom 3.


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Post by Ent Sun 23 Dec 2012, 3:25 pm

Olly wrote:Well going into the 90th minute yesterday City faced a potential 8 point deficit to Utd.

Now it is 4 pts

Gonna evaporate at some point, we are terrible - city aren't even that good, we are just awful.

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Post by Ent Sun 23 Dec 2012, 3:28 pm

GSC wrote:Ashley Williams was a rock today

Thought he was all over the place really, we'd loads of chances even playing like dog turd.

Throwing yourself in front of things isn't impressive, try marking people.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 23 Dec 2012, 3:28 pm

Positives:
Carrick was immense
Vidic played a full game without breaking down
Giggs played well

Negatives:
Performance was dreadful
Young was abysmal
Evra was abhorrent

Thought Williams was great although lucky not to be sent off. Chico should have been sent off definitely and Van Persie was lucky to stay on. Swansea did nothing in the second half although were good in the first half. Quite a dirty team though.
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Post by The Special Juan Sun 23 Dec 2012, 3:30 pm

And Vorm's save was wonderful. Mustn't forget tha.
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Post by Ent Sun 23 Dec 2012, 3:31 pm

Thought carrick was poor tbh, gave it away a good few times though he played young in well in the first half.

Young I thought was better than he has been but still pretty naff though 10 times better than Valencia.

No positives from the game for me if I'm honest.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 23 Dec 2012, 3:50 pm

So should Ashley Williams be tried for attempted murder? Overreaction alert.....

"Robin van Persie is lucky to be alive. It was a disgraceful act from their player today and he should be banned by the FA. Robin could have had a broken neck."
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Post by GSC Sun 23 Dec 2012, 3:54 pm

Thats a disgraceful comment from SAF. Try to leave with some dignity next time
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Post by Ent Sun 23 Dec 2012, 4:00 pm

He does have bit of a point could have done him a lot of damage and whilst I knew he did it deliberately I wasn't particularly outraged at the time.

Thought there was a lot of gamesmanship from Swansea throughout the game so I wasn't particularly surprised Williams had taken his opportunity to give rvp a whack.

Mind you this ill feeling goes away for the players and staff if they actually play well and put away a mid table side who aren't great at the back.

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Post by Ent Sun 23 Dec 2012, 4:04 pm

God villa are Poopie, 2 minutes in and there 3 centre backs are all over the show unable to deal with a single striker.

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Post by GSC Sun 23 Dec 2012, 4:04 pm

What a header from Torres. Absolute bullet
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 23 Dec 2012, 4:34 pm

#prayforVanPersie
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 23 Dec 2012, 5:48 pm

What time do Villa kick off? - Every 10 minutes.
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Post by GG Sun 23 Dec 2012, 5:52 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Thought Williams was great although lucky not to be sent off. Chico should have been sent off definitely and Van Persie was lucky to stay on. Swansea did nothing in the second half although were good in the first half. Quite a dirty team though.

Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh Laugh


What about Evra trying to get Routledge sent off, claiming an elbow after a blatant shoulder to shoulder? Man Utd under Fergie - Undoubtedly superb team, but lack class.

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Post by Ent Sun 23 Dec 2012, 5:54 pm

He winded him, not like he rolled on the ground holding his face is it?

I'd say we are one of the better behaved sides all in all- which teams do you think have more class?

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Post by Ent Sun 23 Dec 2012, 5:57 pm

Villa, another team I want relegated, probably brings me up to 10.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 23 Dec 2012, 5:57 pm

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 23 Dec 2012, 5:58 pm

Ent wrote:Villa, another team I want relegated, probably brings me up to 10.

Name em. Go!
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Post by Duty281 Sun 23 Dec 2012, 5:59 pm

Wow. Chelsea 8-0 Villa and they missed a pen! Joint best GD in the league now, Chelsea have been steadily improving under Benitez - do Chelsea fans still want him out?

As for Alex Ferguson Doh Still can't take a bad result on the chin.

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Post by Ent Sun 23 Dec 2012, 6:01 pm

Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:Villa, another team I want relegated, probably brings me up to 10.

Name em. Go!

Southampton
Reading
Qpr
Villa
Norwich
Sunderland
Newcastle
Maybe west ham

Ok so 8.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 23 Dec 2012, 6:02 pm

Ent wrote:
Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:Villa, another team I want relegated, probably brings me up to 10.

Name em. Go!

Southampton
Reading
Qpr
Villa
Norwich
Sunderland
Newcastle
Maybe west ham

Ok so 8.

Reasoning?
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Post by Ent Sun 23 Dec 2012, 6:03 pm

Duty281 wrote:Wow. Chelsea 8-0 Villa and they missed a pen! Joint best GD in the league now, Chelsea have been steadily improving under Benitez - do Chelsea fans still want him out?

As for Alex Ferguson Doh Still can't take a bad result on the chin.

He's a winner, never gonna be happy not winning and he has repeatedly admitted the better team one during his tenure.

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Post by Ent Sun 23 Dec 2012, 6:05 pm

Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:
Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:Villa, another team I want relegated, probably brings me up to 10.

Name em. Go!

Southampton
Reading
Qpr
Villa
Norwich
Sunderland
Newcastle
Maybe west ham

Ok so 8.

Reasoning?

They annoy me for various reasons ranging from play style, inconsistency/lack of effort except against big teams and some of them are just plain crap.

Villa have hung about for 2 decades mopping up tv money generated by other teams performances and have done nothing, time for someone else to have a go.

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Post by The Special Juan Sun 23 Dec 2012, 6:16 pm

Ent wrote:
Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:Villa, another team I want relegated, probably brings me up to 10.

Name em. Go!

Southampton
Reading
Qpr
Villa
Norwich
Sunderland
Newcastle
Maybe west ham

Ok so 8.

Wigan?
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Post by Ent Sun 23 Dec 2012, 6:18 pm

I like Wigan even though they are frustratingly crap most of the time.

They do probably deserve to be relegated though.

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Post by westisbest Sun 23 Dec 2012, 8:42 pm

fair play to chelsea. our biggest defeat in the prem.

thought we would lose, but by the odd goal.

in fairness this result is unacceptable.

a prem team team wouldnt beat a league 2/conference team by that score.
its been a strange old season for us.

Benteke looked lost today, caught offside so many times, a frustated man.

hope the team pick themselves up. Spurs boxing day.

Shocking today Villa, after a good spell, time to gpet back on track quick sharp.


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Post by The Special Juan Sun 23 Dec 2012, 11:46 pm

Laugh Accidental, Ashley? Look at him, he's staring at Van Persie when he boots the ball at him. Shocking. Could have killed him, y'know Whistle
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Post by westisbest Mon 24 Dec 2012, 8:06 am

Ent wrote:
Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:
Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:Villa, another team I want relegated, probably brings me up to 10.

Name em. Go!

Southampton
Reading
Qpr
Villa
Norwich
Sunderland
Newcastle
Maybe west ham

Ok so 8.

Reasoning?

They annoy me for various reasons ranging from play style, inconsistency/lack of effort except against big teams and some of them are just plain crap.

Villa have hung about for 2 decades mopping up tv money generated by other teams performances and have done nothing, time for someone else to have a go.

Explain how we've done nothing?????

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Post by Ent Mon 24 Dec 2012, 8:59 am

What have you done?

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Mon 24 Dec 2012, 9:18 am

Ent wrote:What have you done?

Why the Newcastle hate?

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Mon 24 Dec 2012, 9:19 am

Williams should probably have seen red. Smashing the ball from 2 yards at the back of someone's head when play has clearly stopped is cowardly. If Van P had got up and give he a slap then we all know he'd have been sent off. I know which would hurt more.

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Post by westisbest Mon 24 Dec 2012, 9:21 am

Well in the first prem season we came second.
Chasing Man utd all the way.

Won the coca cola cup in 94 & 96

Runners up in 2000 FA cup.
Runners up in carling cup in 09/fa cup semi finalists same year.
Been in europe few times.
Under O'Neil came 6th 3 seasons in a row.

To me thats hardly done nothing.

I think people just look at the last couple of seasons when we have been poor, base things on that.
A team that has done nothing as you put it, would be a team that constantly finishes 15-17th every season.

But we all have our opinions.

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Post by harryspiv Mon 24 Dec 2012, 11:04 am

To all those saying sir Alex's comments are an overreaction, a few years back I played football at my local goals centre and after we had a good solid 45 minute 7 a side game we decided to have a break, however one joker decided that he was going to surprise a player laying on his back, looking up at the sky gathering his breath by smacking the ball at point blank range into his head. That person is now confined to a wheelchair after having severe damage to his spinal cord and yes he could have been killed.

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Post by Ent Mon 24 Dec 2012, 11:21 am

Lumbering_Jack wrote:
Ent wrote:What have you done?

Why the Newcastle hate?

Fat Geordies and the irrational belief they are a big club.

Mind you not all my reasons are rational.

Villa should have done more in 2 decades with a 38k stadium and tv money rolling in than 2 league cups.

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Post by Guest Mon 24 Dec 2012, 12:03 pm

Ent being a Man Utd fan you can probably look down your nose at every English club to be honest.

Would you like a Premier League made up of half a dozen teams? Sound like that to me...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 24 Dec 2012, 12:05 pm

How can you hate Norwich? Sad
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Post by Guest Mon 24 Dec 2012, 12:05 pm

Olly wrote:How can you hate Norwich? Sad

I love the road out of it Olly.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 24 Dec 2012, 12:08 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:How can you hate Norwich? Sad

I love the road out of it Olly.

WOAH WOAH WOAH. The A47 is a crap road
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Post by Guest Mon 24 Dec 2012, 12:09 pm

Olly wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:How can you hate Norwich? Sad

I love the road out of it Olly.

WOAH WOAH WOAH. The A47 is a crap road

Not on a bicycle it's not.

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Post by The Special Juan Mon 24 Dec 2012, 12:21 pm

Olly wrote:How can you hate Norwich? Sad

The same reason my Dad hates Kilmarnock; too far away Laugh
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 24 Dec 2012, 12:22 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:How can you hate Norwich? Sad

I love the road out of it Olly.

WOAH WOAH WOAH. The A47 is a crap road

Not on a bicycle it's not.

Do the farmers with pitchfork's not get you on your bike?
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Post by Guest Mon 24 Dec 2012, 12:34 pm

Olly wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Olly wrote:How can you hate Norwich? Sad

I love the road out of it Olly.

WOAH WOAH WOAH. The A47 is a crap road

Not on a bicycle it's not.

Do the farmers with pitchfork's not get you on your bike?

Too fast Olly, too fast...

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Mon 24 Dec 2012, 1:40 pm

Ent wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:
Ent wrote:What have you done?

Why the Newcastle hate?

Fat Geordies and the irrational belief they are a big club.

Mind you not all my reasons are rational.

Villa should have done more in 2 decades with a 38k stadium and tv money rolling in than 2 league cups.

That is just how the media portray us and gullible twonks like you lap it up.

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Post by Ent Mon 24 Dec 2012, 2:00 pm

I like a 20 team league, just gotten weary of certain clubs for various reasons, some rational some not so rational.

With the sensible head on I'd like the 20 biggest clubs in the country (stadia + fan base + history) and a good spread of the cash to try and make it as competitive as possible.

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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 3:32 pm

My god has there been a worse decision in history than allowing that own goal.

Lost for words at the sheer stupidity of it.

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Post by Duty281 Wed 26 Dec 2012, 5:00 pm

United's defence is awful. On the flip side, their attack is world-class and they can easily score more than any opposition in the Premier League. I have no idea how much money Fergie has, but he needs to invest in the defence and midfield in January. Do that and the title is all but sealed up because this is the weakest Premier League in some time. Man City were the worst winners of the league in a long time and lost again today and are 7 points adrift, Chelsea may be picking up pace but they're not in United's class at the moment. And as we pass through Boxing Day, Everton and West Brom are leading the race for 4th place - no one would have said that at the start of the season!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 5:51 pm

Well a disappointing result in the end but we played ok and put up a fight! To be fair Chelsea defended really well, as did both teams, and the only bit of class in the game won the game. Mata's goal was a good one
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 6:27 pm

Wigan are in serious serious trouble this season in my opinion. God knows why Martinez didn't get out of there in the summer!
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Post by Ent Wed 26 Dec 2012, 9:57 pm

Good will to all men except referees it seems, very game features one manager blaming the referee for the result it seems!

Motd should be good viewing.

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Post by Dave. Wed 26 Dec 2012, 10:06 pm

Wow. Stoke scored 3!

Joking aside, fair play to them. Play to their strengths, only 14 let in, impressive.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed 26 Dec 2012, 10:40 pm

Newcastle just far too open
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