Wales v All Blacks Match thread, Poll, and Previews

[maestegmafia]

First topic message reminder :

So this week saw the fans calls for players unused the week before who are in form this season answered and we lost to Samoa, we also lost more players to injury.

So what next...?

Wales offered little in impetus yet again. Few of the form players made a difference against Samoa. Wales have to make a massive improvement in every aspect of their game for next weeks match vs the ABs but what are your suggestions...???

Wales team:
Leigh Halfpenny; Alex Cuthbert, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, George North; Rhys Priestland, Mike Phillips; Paul James, Matthew Rees, Aaron Jarvis, Bradley Davies, Luke Charteris, Ryan Jones, Sam Warburton (captain), Toby Faletau

Replacements:
Ken Owens, Gethin Jenkins, Scott Andrews, Aaron Shingler, Justin Tipuric, Tavis Knoyle, James Hook, Scott Williams


New Zealand team:
Israel Dagg, Cory Jane, Conrad Smith, Ma'a Nonu, Julian Savea, Daniel Carter, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read, Richie McCaw, Liam Messam, Sam Whitelock, Luke Romano, Owen Franks, Andrew Hore, Tony Woodcock.

Replacements: Dane Coles, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Brodie Retallick, Victor Vito, Piri Weepu, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith.

[eirebilly]

The AB's just do the simple things so well.

I would certainly bring Hook on for Priestland.

[Guest]

Agree. Not that many bad decisions, maybe a forward pass missed. The score line is all our own fault. Blaming the ref is futile.

Ye how dare Bradley throw his face into Hores forearm, but the missed tackle is the big issue of the half

Eh?! The swinging arm of Hore did not score points on the board. We put another man on so it was 15 v 15.

Lobby for a a video ref to be allowed to tell the ref about foul play, but don't blame the ref for not seeing an off the ball incident. He should be watching other things, like the tackle area for example, not things on the background.

[glamorganalun]

The coaches must learn in two games we have lost second rows and not had a second row on the bench, I cann't see Ryan lasting the whole game at second row, big ask.

[samuraidragon]

The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.

Give it a break you are like a broken record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick
Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Is this another one of your fairy land unwritten rules? You know the place where the back-row is called the back 3? I thought the captain made those decisions anyway, but it was obviously Gatlands intent for them to get tries on the board so I suppose he instructed them to do so before the game.

Almost certainly the coaching team's idea. And a very bad one too.

[TycroesOsprey]

So this is what it must have felt like as a welsh fan in the 90s.

No, its nowhere near as painful as the 90s.

[thebluesmancometh]

You meam the tackle area 2 yards ahead of the incident???

[eirebilly]

Agree. Not that many bad decisions, maybe a forward pass missed. The score line is all our own fault. Blaming the ref is futile.

Ye how dare Bradley throw his face into Hores forearm, but the missed tackle is the big issue of the half

Eh?! The swinging arm of Hore did not score points on the board. We put another man on so it was 15 v 15.

Lobby for a a video ref to be allowed to tell the ref about foul play, but don't blame the ref for not seeing an off the ball incident. He should be watching other things, like the tackle area for example, not things on the background.

Its not so much about the ref seeing it but surely one of his assistents should have. It doesnt matter in the end but that was a disgusting and cowardly act and i hope he has the book thrown at him and gets a severe ban.

[Looseheaded]

So this is what it must have felt like as a welsh fan in the 90s.

No, its nowhere near as painful as the 90s.

Oh god I'm glad I'm too young to remember anything apart from the likes of Quinnell and Jenks then.

[thebluesmancometh]

2 weeks billy, maximum

[eirebilly]

More handling errors, nothing Howley or Gatland can do about that right now.

[eirebilly]

Excellent try

[Looseheaded]

how can someone that big be so weak in defence?

[thebluesmancometh]

Can we now admitt welsh rugby is in trouble???

[samuraidragon]

Gonna be a big score.

[Guest]

Agree. Not that many bad decisions, maybe a forward pass missed. The score line is all our own fault. Blaming the ref is futile.

Ye how dare Bradley throw his face into Hores forearm, but the missed tackle is the big issue of the half

Eh?! The swinging arm of Hore did not score points on the board. We put another man on so it was 15 v 15.

Lobby for a a video ref to be allowed to tell the ref about foul play, but don't blame the ref for not seeing an off the ball incident. He should be watching other things, like the tackle area for example, not things on the background.

Its not so much about the ref seeing it but surely one of his assistents should have. It doesnt matter in the end but that was a disgusting and cowardly act and i hope he has the book thrown at him and gets a severe ban.

Yet we whinge and moan when the ref and touch judges don't see things in the ruck, so where should they be looking?

Let the citing commissioner police citing incidents and off the ball stuff and the ref police the play.

[glamorganalun]

White flag up, clueless

[Looseheaded]

Jones off for Tips.

Glad to see Tipuric on, but now our scrum'll be significantly weaker in the engine room.

[kiakahaaotearoa]

Unbelievable bitterness from the commentators. Keep sucking on those lemons boys. Plenty of time left on the clock still.

Hore will definitely have a date with the judiciary. Just like Thomson did.

[wales606]

This is turning into humiliation

[Hookisms and Hyperbole]

Another poor performance from Warburton. He has been really disappointing this season.

[eirebilly]

Yet we whinge and moan when the ref and touch judges don't see things in the ruck, so where should they be looking?

Let the citing commissioner police citing incidents and off the ball stuff and the ref police the play.

To be fair Griff, the incident wasnt that far away from the area of play. I truely think that one of them should have seen it. They didnt so we go on but i really hope he gets a lengthy ban for it.

[EnglishReign]

Come on Wales ! Liam Williams playing with passion! Ryan Jones a trooper.

[Guest]

Yet we whinge and moan when the ref and touch judges don't see things in the ruck, so where should they be looking?

Let the citing commissioner police citing incidents and off the ball stuff and the ref police the play.

To be fair Griff, the incident wasnt that far away from the area of play. I truely think that one of them should have seen it. They didnt so we go on but i really hope he gets a lengthy ban for it.

Definitely, but it's nothing to do with why we're losing by so much. As I said, it didn't add points to their score.

[wales606]

Another poor performance from Warburton. He has been really disappointing this season.

Really? I think has been carrying well, not quite his pilfering self though.

[wales606]

Injury no4/5 (was Ryan carrying an injury?)

Paul James off

[thebluesmancometh]

He's still not fit Wales, he is working hard but not effective in any way shape or form!

[wales606]

Tavis Knoyle on - we really are giving in then.

[PJHolybloke]

Come on Wales, give us a feckin try FFS!

[eirebilly]

Griff, Wales are being beaten because they are failing to get the basics right, their handling is appaling and Priestland is having an absolute shocker (not just with the boot).

They have shown some very good plays though.

[disneychilly]

Man if Jonathan Davies was out Wales would be in deep shoite.

[thebluesmancometh]

Crowd cheer RP hitting touch... Well that makes my night!!

[wales606]

Big cheer when Preistland actually finds touch

[Morgannwg]

Obstruction? How often do we see that let go. All the time. Why do we have to have two awful refs two weeks in a row.

[eirebilly]

What a try from Wales

got to love that

[TycroesOsprey]

Ha

[Golden]

That was hilarious

[Looseheaded]

Lauhghing my arse off at that line out.

[thebluesmancometh]

15 man lineout, 14 man catch and drive and worked so so easily!!! We are making ourselves look a bit foolish now

[wales606]

THAT'S THE MOST AMAZING TRY I HAVE EVER SEEN!

15 men in a lineout - hilarious!

[Morgannwg]

Thank god we got a try

[flyhalffactory]

The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.

Give it a break you are like a broken record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick
Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Is this another one of your fairy land unwritten rules? You know the place where the back-row is called the back 3? I thought the captain made those decisions anyway, but it was obviously Gatlands intent for them to get tries on the board so I suppose he instructed them to do so before the game.

Student
Even you must get tired of your juvenile immature sideswipes its totally BORING now, I played the game longer than you have been born and its quite a common phrase "Back Three"

You really are an annoying person aren't you

[PJHolybloke]

Now that's Wales rugby right there!!

Hugely feckin entertaining!!

[wales606]

Why havent desperate teams tried that before?

[kiakahaaotearoa]

Good reward for Wales. Let's see if that gives them some momentum.

[flyhalffactory]

Great try Wales, well done Shingler for that lineout catch

[AFewTooManyKnocks]

Why havent desperate teams tried that before?

Canada did it yesterday

[HammerofThunor]

Clear obstruction at that lineout. Jenkins was at the front. Should have been a penalty to All Blacks.

[Morgannwg]

The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.

Give it a break you are like a broken record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick
Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Is this another one of your fairy land unwritten rules? You know the place where the back-row is called the back 3? I thought the captain made those decisions anyway, but it was obviously Gatlands intent for them to get tries on the board so I suppose he instructed them to do so before the game.

Student
Even you must get tired of your juvenile immature sideswipes its totally BORING now, I played the game longer than you have been born and its quite a common phrase "Back Three"

You really are an annoying person aren't you

Can't admit you're wrong as always. Pathetic and bitter old man springs to mind.

[glamorganalun]

The cheer from the crowd says it all about Preistland, why can't Gatland team see he is simply poor

[Guest]

Griff, Wales are being beaten because they are failing to get the basics right, their handling is appaling and Priestland is having an absolute shocker (not just with the boot).

They have shown some very good plays though.

That's exactly my point. It's not to do with the ref, not to do with swinging arms, etc.

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