Wales v All Blacks Match thread, Poll, and Previews

[maestegmafia]

First topic message reminder :

So this week saw the fans calls for players unused the week before who are in form this season answered and we lost to Samoa, we also lost more players to injury.

So what next...?

Wales offered little in impetus yet again. Few of the form players made a difference against Samoa. Wales have to make a massive improvement in every aspect of their game for next weeks match vs the ABs but what are your suggestions...???

Wales team:
Leigh Halfpenny; Alex Cuthbert, Jonathan Davies, Jamie Roberts, George North; Rhys Priestland, Mike Phillips; Paul James, Matthew Rees, Aaron Jarvis, Bradley Davies, Luke Charteris, Ryan Jones, Sam Warburton (captain), Toby Faletau

Replacements:
Ken Owens, Gethin Jenkins, Scott Andrews, Aaron Shingler, Justin Tipuric, Tavis Knoyle, James Hook, Scott Williams


New Zealand team:
Israel Dagg, Cory Jane, Conrad Smith, Ma'a Nonu, Julian Savea, Daniel Carter, Aaron Smith, Kieran Read, Richie McCaw, Liam Messam, Sam Whitelock, Luke Romano, Owen Franks, Andrew Hore, Tony Woodcock.

Replacements: Dane Coles, Wyatt Crockett, Charlie Faumuina, Brodie Retallick, Victor Vito, Piri Weepu, Aaron Cruden, Ben Smith.

[PJHolybloke]

Get off, not a chance.

[ironrobson21]

Can anyone whos Welsh understand a word that Adam Jones is saying?

Pardon?

[Morgannwg]

off off off off off off!

[eirebilly]

Thats a harsh yellow to be honest

[EnglishReign]

Come on boys!

[Scoped]

The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.

Give it a break you are like a broken record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick
Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Is this another one of your fairy land unwritten rules? You know the place where the back-row is called the back 3? I thought the captain made those decisions anyway, but it was obviously Gatlands intent for them to get tries on the board so I suppose he instructed them to do so before the game.

Student
Even you must get tired of your juvenile immature sideswipes its totally BORING now, I played the game longer than you have been born and its quite a common phrase "Back Three"

You really are an annoying person aren't you

Really? Back 3 is 11,14,15. Back row is 6,7,8. Never heard them used any other way

[wales606]

Do it again! 15 man lineout

[Guest]

The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.

Give it a break you are like a broken record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick
Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Is this another one of your fairy land unwritten rules? You know the place where the back-row is called the back 3? I thought the captain made those decisions anyway, but it was obviously Gatlands intent for them to get tries on the board so I suppose he instructed them to do so before the game.

Despite him trying to convince us otherwise, he is a Scarlets sympathiser. 1/2p being blamed for not asking to kick for goal is a new low for a Scarlet fan trying to justify Priestland's poor performance. Even I could kick a peno to touch.

[Golden]

Why doesnt every team do that? Must be so hard to defend

[wales606]

Why havent desperate teams tried that before?

Canada did it yesterday

Really?

Someone from the Welsh management must have been watching - someone give that Canadian coach a beer.

[disneychilly]

Jane's card was the same as Kearney's in Hamilton. No issue here.

[AFewTooManyKnocks]

Why havent desperate teams tried that before?

Canada did it yesterday

Really?

Someone from the Welsh management must have been watching - someone give that Canadian coach a beer.

Haha yea they tried it against the Maori. Didn'tt pull it off like Wales did though

[eirebilly]

Are Wales starting to play better or are the AB's going off the boil?

I would say Wales because the AB's rarely go off the boil.

[flyhalffactory]

The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.

Give it a break you are like a broken record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick
Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Is this another one of your fairy land unwritten rules? You know the place where the back-row is called the back 3? I thought the captain made those decisions anyway, but it was obviously Gatlands intent for them to get tries on the board so I suppose he instructed them to do so before the game.

Student
Even you must get tired of your juvenile immature sideswipes its totally BORING now, I played the game longer than you have been born and its quite a common phrase "Back Three"

You really are an annoying person aren't you

Can't admit you're wrong as always. Pathetic and bitter old man springs to mind.

You have had a ban already I think someone needs to recommend a life ban........... you are always spoiling for an argument and potentially spoiling this thread

[thebluesmancometh]

I didn't think that was a card, by the way the ball went into the air suggests an attempt to take it.

[eirebilly]

Difference is?

[wales606]

Dagg must be really p*ssed off at L.Williams - he keeps knocking the ball out of his hand.

[thebluesmancometh]

Billy

Jane went for the ball, Williams was making a tackle.

[eirebilly]

Billy

Jane went for the ball, Williams was making a tackle.

Williams knew what he was doing there as well mate

[thebluesmancometh]

Maybe, but then IMHO Jane was going for the intercept

[kiakahaaotearoa]

I think it went too far ahead of him to give him the benefit of the doubt. Not a slap down but it was cynical. I don't mind the yellow. Seems the ABs are fired up though with a man down.

[flyhalffactory]

The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.

Give it a break you are like a broken record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick
Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Is this another one of your fairy land unwritten rules? You know the place where the back-row is called the back 3? I thought the captain made those decisions anyway, but it was obviously Gatlands intent for them to get tries on the board so I suppose he instructed them to do so before the game.

Despite him trying to convince us otherwise, he is a Scarlets sympathiser. 1/2p being blamed for not asking to kick for goal is a new low for a Scarlet fan trying to justify Priestland's poor performance. Even I could kick a peno to touch.

]

Dont attempt to say something I am not (Scarlet sympathiser) .........
I am not blaming 1/2p at all (when did I say that)........... I am just stating that two non kicks at goal is not blamed at one guy (Priestland) alone, the Welsh direction was clear.......... the coach, captain and main goal kicker makes the decision whether to kick for goarl or not

[Morgannwg]

The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.

Give it a break you are like a broken record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick
Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Is this another one of your fairy land unwritten rules? You know the place where the back-row is called the back 3? I thought the captain made those decisions anyway, but it was obviously Gatlands intent for them to get tries on the board so I suppose he instructed them to do so before the game.

Student
Even you must get tired of your juvenile immature sideswipes its totally BORING now, I played the game longer than you have been born and its quite a common phrase "Back Three"

You really are an annoying person aren't you

Can't admit you're wrong as always. Pathetic and bitter old man springs to mind.

You have had a ban already I think someone needs to recommend a life ban........... you are always spoiling for an argument and potentially spoiling this thread

No you are just condescending of people that post a different opinion to you and you like to point out the fact that they're wrong. Several people have told you that you are wrong and you can't take it so you have to come up with accusations like this. Pathetic and low and wearing Scarlet tinted specs as always.

[eirebilly]

In my eye's McCaw could be up there with John Eales as the best player i have ever seen play the game.

[wales606]

Sam Warburton is back

[RogerLewis]

That 15 man drive try was the best thing I've ever seen. It was worth getting stuffed just to see that!

Jon Davies has been amazing. He's the only one trying things and he's got gas and brains. We need Henson back at 12 to make more space.

[Looseheaded]

FINALLY
HE'S GONE

[wales606]

Huge cheer for James Hook...or rather for Preistland going off.

[wales606]

That 15 man drive try was the best thing I've ever seen. It was worth getting stuffed just to see that!

Jon Davies has been amazing. He's the only one trying things and he's got gas and brains. We need Henson back at 12 to make more space.

I agree about the lineout - funniest thing I have seen all week.

[Guest]

That mo on Barratt makes him look a bit backward when coupled with the haircut!

[Looseheaded]

That 15 man drive try was the best thing I've ever seen. It was worth getting stuffed just to see that!

Jon Davies has been amazing. He's the only one trying things and he's got gas and brains. We need Henson back at 12 to make more space.

I'd be very surprised if we don't see Henson at least in the training squad for the 6N.
He's been playing good rugby and keeping his head down out of the tabloids, also Gats loves him.

[RogerLewis]

Priestland has been SO bad today that he will DEFINITELY be first choice in all the 2013 matches.

That's how we roll in Wales!

[flyhalffactory]

Hook should have been on sooner 15 mins is not enough time

[RogerLewis]

If Phillips and Priestland had not played we may have shipped 21 less points and actually scored a few.

[Pal Joey]

The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.

Give it a break you are like a broken record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick
Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Is this another one of your fairy land unwritten rules? You know the place where the back-row is called the back 3? I thought the captain made those decisions anyway, but it was obviously Gatlands intent for them to get tries on the board so I suppose he instructed them to do so before the game.

Student
Even you must get tired of your juvenile immature sideswipes its totally BORING now, I played the game longer than you have been born and its quite a common phrase "Back Three"

You really are an annoying person aren't you

Can't admit you're wrong as always. Pathetic and bitter old man springs to mind.

You have had a ban already I think someone needs to recommend a life ban........... you are always spoiling for an argument and potentially spoiling this thread

No you are just condescending of people that post a different opinion to you and you like to point out the fact that they're wrong. Several people have told you that you are wrong and you can't take it so you have to come up with accusations like this. Pathetic and low and wearing Scarlet tinted specs as always.

OK, hose it down you two. Enough is enough.

[eirebilly]

Great play from Davis

[eirebilly]

Ooh looky, breaker is being all official

[wales606]

Hook finds touch

Well...he is already beating Preistland

[Guest]

great play from Linebreaker the mod

[Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler]

First time Wales fans have cheered Hook in a while!

[kiakahaaotearoa]

Davie having a great game on defence and attack. He's been sorely missed for Wales in the last two games. Priestland has been the antithesis.

[wales606]

If Phillips and Priestland had not played we may have shipped 21 less points and actually scored a few.

Harsh on Phillips

[wales606]

Davie having a great game on defence and attack. He's been sorely missed for Wales in the last two games. Priestland has been the antithesis.

Agree

[Morgannwg]

Knoyle dumb as always. Is it too late to fast-track Gareth Davies into the team for next week?

[Pal Joey]

Ooh looky, breaker is being all official

I'll official you you cheeky bugger!

[Looseheaded]

If Phillips and Priestland had not played we may have shipped 21 less points and actually scored a few.

Harsh on Phillips

Yeah i thought Phillips has been alright today, showed good strength and composure when pressured at breakdown.
Service has been slow as but that's down to more than just him.

[eirebilly]

Ooh looky, breaker is being all official

I'll official you you cheeky bugger!

Damn, i was hoping for some red ink

[RogerLewis]

If Phillips and Priestland had not played we may have shipped 21 less points and actually scored a few.

Harsh on Phillips

NOT AT ALL.

He had the opportunity to pass the ball from the ruck 10 metres out early in the game and didn't, then we had a turnover. He tried to go on his own and got turned over to lead to the NZ third try. Numerous other times he has been ABSENT at the ruck.

Him plus Priestland have had a hand in all three NZ tries.

The game is far closer than the score suggests.

[Guest]

Davie having a great game on defence and attack. He's been sorely missed for Wales in the last two games. Priestland has been the antithesis.

Yeah, definitely. We seem to have players who are either big and slow or small and weka, but he is one of the only ones we've got with fast feet and a bit of bulk and defensive ability.

[Guest]

The decision not to kick for goal is baffling, especially when Preistland twice turns those kickable penalties into AB scrums.

Put Hook on now.

Give it a break you are like a broken record ................ 1/2p takes the kicks and makes the decisions whether to go for goal, the unwrtten rule is the kicker i.e. 1/2p makes the decision to kick
Perhaps you should be looking at the non existant defending of Cuthbert and Faletau, and the dire defence for both tries

Is this another one of your fairy land unwritten rules? You know the place where the back-row is called the back 3? I thought the captain made those decisions anyway, but it was obviously Gatlands intent for them to get tries on the board so I suppose he instructed them to do so before the game.

Despite him trying to convince us otherwise, he is a Scarlets sympathiser. 1/2p being blamed for not asking to kick for goal is a new low for a Scarlet fan trying to justify Priestland's poor performance. Even I could kick a peno to touch.

]

Dont attempt to say something I am not (Scarlet sympathiser) .........
I am not blaming 1/2p at all (when did I say that)........... I am just stating that two non kicks at goal is not blamed at one guy (Priestland) alone, the Welsh direction was clear.......... the coach, captain and main goal kicker makes the decision whether to kick for goarl or not

Come on mate, it's even quoted for you above. You said Halfpenny makes the decision, which is not true. He simply recommends whether he can make it, but it's the skipper's decision. That is basics. You know you lean towards the Scarlets too, despite the fact you're Scottish.

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