Hatton

He needs the people he loves around him now because I fear he could do something silly due to depressione etc.

lets hope not.

he looked like a broken man in the post fight interview

Seen that comin from the start and the members on here that follow me on twitter will have seen that if they read it.

So slow, wreckless, nothing changed. Looked so done and even though 3 years out. It just looked like he was going to get beat. Got slower and slower and was getting caught more and more.

The commentry was brutal. More or less ignored Shen' Everything Hatton.

And by the looks of Hatton, he will end up carrying on trying to get those days that are no longer there.

Another Roy Jones Jr, mark my words.

Tend to agree Reborn, I saw nothing in there to suggest Ricky had anything to offer, was slow, no head movement, timing was worse than a 50p fake rolex and had to strength to keep his man on the ropes when he got him there.

Tend to agree on the commentary as well, I had Senchenko a handy distance ahead at the finsih, outside of the first four rounds (and some of them were far from clear cut) I struggled to give Hatton too much. As you have alluded to though he was not talking like a guy at the end who was ready to hang them up, can only hope he does though because I don't see thisending well if he carries on

Thought he had announced retirement?

He may well have Sean, am not a young man anymore need my sleep of an evening

You're absolutely right Sean, fair play to him 100% the right decision.

Hatton last night was slow, ponderous, inaccurate and had no head movement or stamina. He looked knackered by the time the fifth round started. Good decision to retire but, in reality, he shouldn't have come back.

I'd had a few glasses of red by the time Hatton was on but I don't remember seeing his trade mark pivots last night.

Can anyone confirm that?

Rotherham Joe Gans wrote:Tend to agree Reborn, I saw nothing in there to suggest Ricky had anything to offer, was slow, no head movement, timing was worse than a 50p fake rolex and had to strength to keep his man on the ropes when he got him there.

Tend to agree on the commentary as well, I had Senchenko a handy distance ahead at the finsih, outside of the first four rounds (and some of them were far from clear cut) I struggled to give Hatton too much. As you have alluded to though he was not talking like a guy at the end who was ready to hang them up, can only hope he does though because I don't see thisending well if he carries on

Speaking from experience there jeff? No wonder you decided to be an immigration officer.

On a serious note I watched it this morning and thought my god senchenko handled him for the majority of the fight. Hopefully the lad will stay retired. Last night it was 4-4 - having watched it again it was 6-2 or 5-3 to senchenko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkuYvMw80B0

I thought that Darke and Woodhall meeded to go to Specsavers by their commentary, the so called "light hitter" came into last night's fight with a 65% KO record, Hatton was 67% It was clear that Ricky was rusty and the way they were talking I thought they were watching a different fight, I had Senchenko in a 2 point lead when the KO came. I admit to being suckered by the press into thinking Senchenko was a hand picked punch bag but he was far from that. Hopefully Hatton hangs up the gloves before he's given a pasting by a total nobody, or worse I'd hate to see him as one of Khan's ex-champion victims.

Hatton would beat Khan if they fought but he needs to get back to full fitness. He was always going to be rusty after so long out of the ring so he should have had a warm up fight first to get back to fitness. If he reties now then he will still feel he let everyone down because he was not at his best last night that is for sure.

On that performance Khan would hurt him and he's not even a big puncher. His reflexes are shot, his speed is gone and his power has deserted him too. Either one of Brook or Khan would hurt him bad and I think (hope) that both would act as the Klitchkos towards Holyfield.

No value in Hatton continuing......Just hope guys like Shannon forget the money and give him some tough love...

Said it before Hatton lives through the guise of Ricky Hatton the fighter/entertainer....rather like your wonderful comedian/actor Peter sellers used to live through his roles.....Without a role in public life or a personality he can hide behind........ he becomes full of insecurity...

Hatton became successful very young before he had a chance to mature......and understand who he really is....after retirement the first time..... me thinks he looked in the mirror and didn't like what he saw.....

Hatton needs a personality to hide behind and he doesn't appear to like his own company......

He'll pursue some kind of public persona whether inside or outside the ring probably to his own detriment...................

Hope I'm wrong but there will be battles ahead for this guy.....

Good luck to him anyway............

great fighter for sure...........

Even from the early rounds Hatton was fighting with desperation. What was he thinking with those wild lead hooks? A decent counter puncher would've KO'd him in the early rounds. He was an absolute ghost of everything that made Ricky Hatton a good fighter in his prime. Even his pressuring game was ineffective. He seemed unable to cut the ring off, and more often than not Senchenko was able to operate from his favoured distance. Someone above mentioned Khan - Hatton would be destroyed by Khan now. If he couldn't close the distance on Senchenko then he'd have no chance with Khan. Nothing left to prove for Ricky. He's had a wonderful career. But it should end now.

Good analysis truss, pretty much how i see it. He needs the adoration of the followers. I think also he believed their hype and never really came up grips with the mayweather ko.

Not a great fighter though in my book, just a very good one. very well managed solid world champion, who happened to be a right place right time marketers dream.

He could always do what us regular folk do and get a full time job. All this sympathy for Hatton is misplaced in my opinion, people far more deserving of support.

Whilst, being a little nervous of siding with someone whose motto isn't exactly 'love thy neighbour', I do find myself in agreement with jack here.

He's made millions, and got the trappings that go with that. He can afford the best care he might need. And he earnt his money trying to hurt people, so there are more deserving recipients if sympathy out there. Dont get me wrong, he 's always come across as a decent guy and I genuinely wish him well, but some of the comments I've seen since last night are borderline vomit inducing.

I doubt there's anyone reading this thread who hasn't had or been witness to depression. Feel sorry for the family's who have to deal with the often hostile and selfish behaviour of loved ones before you feel sorry for those who have it... A large proportion of which don't realise or are in denial about it. If Ricky recognises his issues that's a good start and all the best to him, but spare us the st Richard stuff.

Gordy wrote:Hatton would beat Khan if they fought but he needs to get back to full fitness. He was always going to be rusty after so long out of the ring so he should have had a warm up fight first to get back to fitness. If he reties now then he will still feel he let everyone down because he was not at his best last night that is for sure.

This has got to be one of the worst posts I've seen...

Hatton was shot last night and would be no matter how much training he has. Khan would take him apart at this stage, Brook would KO him.

I don't want to sound harsh on Ricky but this was a fight that no one should have seen and further to that, we're left with a guy with so much pride going out on a loss against a guy who he would have mauled back 4 years ago. Pride got the best of Ricky Hatton on this occasion and at the end of the day I spent £15 on watching a broken man start his descent into depression... It was very uncomfortable to watch a man who is loved so much by his fans get frustrated and tell himself he isn't a failure even though he thinks people believe he is.

Oscar De La Hoya said it best after he lost to Pacquiao: His body couldn't do the things it used to do and he could feel it... Last night we all saw it.

milkyboy wrote:Whilst, being a little nervous of siding with someone whose motto isn't exactly 'love thy neighbour', I do find myself in agreement with jack here.

He's made millions, and got the trappings that go with that. He can afford the best care he might need. And he earnt his money trying to hurt people, so there are more deserving recipients if sympathy out there. Dont get me wrong, he 's always come across as a decent guy and I genuinely wish him well, but some of the comments I've seen since last night are borderline vomit inducing.

I doubt there's anyone reading this thread who hasn't had or been witness to depression. Feel sorry for the family's who have to deal with the often hostile and selfish behaviour of loved ones before you feel sorry for those who have it... A large proportion of which don't realise or are in denial about it. If Ricky recognises his issues that's a good start and all the best to him, but spare us the st Richard stuff.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

You'd think someone had died.

I'm not a fan of Hatton the boxer.

For me he epitomises many of the ills of current boxing. 1-D, face forward, no defense, poor movement, spoiling, holding, mauling boxer. Very little craft in his craft. But that's all ok because boxing allows for that and in a sense it's a successful 'skillset'. However, this constant talking-up of his abilities and status by the media and pundits is vomit-inducing. Hatton was never a great boxer; he resume is decent at best. His best win was against an old, inactive legend and he's basically dined off it since. He beat a lot of average fighters with his bullying and spoiling tactics. He made millions in the process, mainly off a gullible, fanatic, footballing fanbase. Good for him. What's there to sympathise with? Besides, most of his misfortunes were of his own making. And please stop telling us that he was some great of the boxing world. He sold tickets (because of the clueless fanbase) and so was a big name. The hype surrounding him is ridiculously disproportionate to the talent.

Goodbye Ricky, enjoy your retirement, but spare us the Oprah Winfrey moments.



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One thing I want to say about last nights fight is that to me, he looked just as bad as he did when he fought Lazcano a few year years ago.

He is a great boxer.......

His record speaks for itself...

Sure he got embarrassed against Manny but.....was it any worse than Hearns-Duran..

me thinks not.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:He is a great boxer.......

His record speaks for itself...

Sure he got embarrassed against Manny but.....was it any worse than Hearns-Duran..

me thinks not.

Of course it is!. He was totalled at his own natural weight by a guy his own size not by a guy much bigger in a division 3 above his best.

He's garbage then as most p4p top 5 guys are...

Didnt say he was garbage but that is a wrong comparison. Had he been toalled at middleweight by Paul williams then it would be fair. Pac is great but he doesnt make it out the first round against hearns.

Look for the last time.....Hearns beat Duran with his jab......completely dominated him..before the right hand..

Didn't Hagler sneak a decsion against Roberto at errrrrrrrrrrrrmmmmmm

160!!

He was able to dominate him with his jab because of the size difference, there really is no comparison between that and Hatton/Pacquiao.

Geting a little tired of silly people claiming Hearns weight advantage was the difference...

Duran had success at 154 and 160!!! Hagler, Barkley, Moore etc........

Hearns never used his weight advantage..he just humiliated him with his skill......

Duran was PATHETIC!!!

Jabbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb....dominated him dumbass.....

Size doesn't dominate anybody..

Watch the fight...

Tyson coped with taller men..........Barkley had size on his side....

Answer me this question...........

If size beat Duran..........why didn't 6ft 1 and 160 pound Barkley beat him????????????????

Same height as Hearns wasn't he and Hearns wsas lighter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Argument is a joke..........

Jab killed him.....

Was a little tighter than it ought to be but being competitive in a division doesnt mean you can handle all that it brings. Physical differences were too big - look what happened to curry when he stepped up against marginally bigger men and extrapolate it

Hearns jab dominated most fighters..................

Difference was most other fighters didn't seem so clueless or amateurish....

Rolled a drunk that night...

I can't be bothered having this debate with you yet again but Hearns ability in the body of a lightweight and he doesn't humiliate Duran, simple as that.

Because Barkley isn't as good, as fast or as powerful as hearns Hearns was quite handy against the smaller men great or not but three people took him were Barkley who somehow managed to withstand his power and Leonard, one who got outboxed but outgutted/outlasted him and Hagler who was carved out a mountain by thor on stormy night.

No but Duran nearly beating Hagler and Barkley shows that size wasn't a problem for Roberto..........

The jab was...................

The point is beyond you isn't it Truss.

Hearns- 78" reach
Barkley- 74" reach
Hagler- 75" reach

There's more to a size advantage than merely weight.

Lot's of fighters get out reached.............

Do they all lose???????

A lightweight coming up against an all time great powerful welterweight with significant weight and reach advantages renowned for having a great jab is always going to end well isn't it Truss. Hagler and Barkley didn't have the style to emphasise their size advantage over Duran. Out of interest how many former lightweight champions would you give a chance against Hearns at 154lbs?

Leave out this lightweight crap..........

Get it...He couldn't get past the jab...............

Let's dismiss his Hagler and Barkley fights.....after all they were at a higher weight...

Duran wasn't outclassed it was an illusion...

Not always but great fast big fighters often destroy great little fighters. Especially if they have extraordinary power. Foreman Frazier. Rolled like a drunk is probably more fitting in that.

Like the Shuler fight.......Everything came off the jab.............

Duran was too intimidated to get inside and tried to fight from the outside....

Hagler and Leonard were always called out by No-mas........but he never wanted Tommy again..........

Hagler was taller and bigger as was Barkley.....

Maybe Ghosty could give us Barkley's measurements!!!!!

Ok i'll replace lightweight with Super Featherweight the division in which he actually made his name when he dominated his fellow panamanian great Ernesto Marcel.

Give us Barkley's measurements.........and see If "I get it"!!!!!!

No mas was Duran getting fed up with Leonards Love sacks and packing it in. Wheras Currys meek acceptance of the ref decision was a heroic deed worthy of the congressional medal of honour.

Why are you bringing up no-mas and what's Curry got to do with it...

Reaching my poor fellow......reaching.

I've already given you Barkleys measurements not that it matters when in all reality he was never anything more than good. Overcoming a 12" reach disadvantage against a jabber is a stylistic nightmare Truss even you must be able to comprehend that.

You've been owned Ghosty..............You gave hearns measurements as a reason Duran lost.....Barkley was the same height and BIGGER......

By the way for anyone impressionable and not deluded...

The Doctor stopped the Curry fight........