Where's HERSH

by gregortree Wed 28 Nov 2012, 11:13 am

First topic message reminder :

Anyone know ?
I miss Hersh's insights & crazy predictions.
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by RuggerRadge2611 Wed 28 Nov 2012, 1:52 pm

gregortree wrote:
rodders wrote:
eirebilly wrote:I actually liked HERSH, thought that he brought some good humour to the forum. Everynow and then a little over the top but he did know his stuff.

+ 1

+2

+3

HERSH is very Knowlegable and pretty passionate about Rugby, he has ruffled my feathers a few times but I guarentee I won't be the only one.

I suppose he ruffle's my feathers because most of what he says (particularly about Scottish rugby) is true.

There is a good poster in there somewhere. If not a very tactful one!

by OzT Wed 28 Nov 2012, 2:05 pm

tigertattie wrote:Long live the Wurzils

did they post often??

by damage_13 Wed 28 Nov 2012, 2:23 pm

RuggerRadge has a good point, 'Tactful' is something Hersh needed to be more of.

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Wed 28 Nov 2012, 2:31 pm

damage_13 wrote:RuggerRadge has a good point, 'Tactful' is something ~~Hersh~~quite a lot of people needed to be more of.

Fixed that for you Wink

I enjoyed reading some of his stuff. Unfortunately for him even when he wasn't having a WUM quite a lot of his jokes relied on "tone" being picked up off the written word - and because of his history many people assumed the worst "tone" in all his posts. Which all to often led to someone attacking him, someone else reacting and a bunfight that for the mods to fix.

by ScarletSpiderman Wed 28 Nov 2012, 2:37 pm

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
damage_13 wrote:RuggerRadge has a good point, 'Tactful' is something ~~Hersh~~quite a lot of people needed to be more of.

Fixed that for you

I enjoyed reading some of his stuff. Unfortunately for him even when he wasn't having a WUM quite a lot of his jokes relied on "tone" being picked up off the written word - and because of his history many people assumed the worst "tone" in all his posts. Which all to often led to someone attacking him, someone else reacting and a bunfight that for the mods to fix.

Biggest problem with bleeding internet forums, facebook, twitter, text messages etc. Me and my misses had a big barny once, after she text me asking me to do something or other for he, like buy milk on the way home or something, i replied back with "has anyone told you to go <fornicate> yourself today? What was that no? Oh well consider it done!" jokingly and did whatever it was she wanted to do. Unfortunately she didn't read it the jokey way it was meant and I was in the dog house for a while (worse she told my mam about it and I was in the dog house with her too).

by TJ1 Wed 28 Nov 2012, 2:38 pm

I prefer people to get short bans but escalate them with each occurrence so tey do gt a chance to mend their ways. First offence a day, second a week, 3rd a month, 4th life

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Wed 28 Nov 2012, 2:43 pm

TJ wrote:I prefer people to get short bans but escalate them with each occurrence so tey do gt a chance to mend their ways. First offence a day, second a week, 3rd a month, 4th life

That is our general policy TJ.

Hersh and AWoP have both had a fair number of bans. And for what it's worth we tried an approach of warning them when they were going over the top as well - it didn't work.

by eirebilly Wed 28 Nov 2012, 2:59 pm

Question is, is there anyway for banned posters to get in contact with the admins should they want to change their ways and return?

Personally, i would like to see HERSH back.

by TJ1 Wed 28 Nov 2012, 3:00 pm

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
TJ wrote:I prefer people to get short bans but escalate them with each occurrence so tey do gt a chance to mend their ways. First offence a day, second a week, 3rd a month, 4th life

That is our general policy TJ.

Hersh and AWoP have both had a fair number of bans. And for what it's worth we tried an approach of warning them when they were going over the top as well - it didn't work.

Fair enough then. I am a relative newb / occasional poster here and had not seen it

by Chjw131 Wed 28 Nov 2012, 3:04 pm

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
TJ wrote:I prefer people to get short bans but escalate them with each occurrence so tey do gt a chance to mend their ways. First offence a day, second a week, 3rd a month, 4th life

That is our general policy TJ.

Hersh and AWoP have both had a fair number of bans. And for what it's worth we tried an approach of warning them when they were going over the top as well - it didn't work.

That's fair enough I suppose. If people aren't going to heed warnings and interventions then there's no other course of action to be pursued. I will echo what's been said above about HERSH, that in essence he was a knowledgeable poster but frequently trod a fine line.

For what it's worth I joined this forum in the hope that it would be a reformed version of the old 606 which all too often descended into absurdity. I have to say that generally I have found other posters to be considerate and informed and the more we stick to that philosophy the better quality rugby debate we can all have.

by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Wed 28 Nov 2012, 3:06 pm

eirebilly wrote:Question is, is there anyway for banned posters to get in contact with the admins should they want to change their ways and return?

Personally, i would like to see HERSH back.

There is a precedent on the boxing section where a couple of posters emailed the admins (there's a "contact" link right at the bottom of the page) laying out their case for a return, and we discussed it and agreed.

I'd like a few weeks of (relative) peace and quiet.

by Blueschief Wed 28 Nov 2012, 3:07 pm

I very rarely post on here, tho I have been a member for a while, and used to read the old 606 forum too, I rather liked Hersh and his humour, smart fella, it's a shame he's gone, even tho I'm Welsh Wink

by offload Wed 28 Nov 2012, 3:12 pm

I don't post every day but most days I follow the more interesting threads. I think the mods do a pretty good job and get the balance right between allowing a bit of banter and hitting those that cross the line.

If posters have been banned it's probably for good reason and hopefully there is a way back (after a bit of peace and quiet !) for those who see the error of their ways.

by TycroesOsprey Wed 28 Nov 2012, 3:22 pm

To be honest, whilst HERSH was generally annoying he could be quite amusing. AWOP/ ghost

on the other hand was simply offensive and was the main reason I stopped posting for 6 months. I cant help but echo the sentiments above that he should have much gone sooner which would have saved a lot of hassle. Hopefully HERSH can be rehabilitated though. thumbsup

by RuggerRadge2611 Wed 28 Nov 2012, 3:27 pm

The thing is posters like AWOP & HERSH mostly post with opinions, backed up by cold, hard facts.

This not only gets under other posters skins because the opinions are always supplimented with facts and it makes their point/argument very difficult to counter.

The best posters on here do the same thing, although they dress their points up better and it comes across as less coarse.

by belovedfrosties Wed 28 Nov 2012, 3:32 pm

I never really had a problem with HERSH either. He always spoke his mind and on quite a few occasions you couldn't fault what he said, he knew his stuff and was very passionate about what he saw was wrong with the game/England.

Problem was (as others have pointed out) was that when he did this about other teams and countries it was seen as very wum like and insulting, he lacked tact in that department, but always stuck to his guns.

AWOP on the other hand seemed to post nothing but bile and i agree that he should have gone a long time ago.

Anyway, thanks MODS for taking care of things and keep up the good fight.

by AlastairW Wed 28 Nov 2012, 3:43 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:The thing is posters like AWOP ... mostly post with opinions, backed up by cold, hard facts.

When!? AWOP posted complete tosh that was backed up by more tosh. Once he got over his 'pidgeon' english phase he obviously started in the sensationalist-language-for-the-Sunday-Sport type of writing.

by gregortree Wed 28 Nov 2012, 4:01 pm

HERSH threw a lot of (Bath type) mud (tongue in cheek) Gloucester's way, but we all had the humour to spot it and not to overreact.
I don't think any Glos fans every got into a 'citing level' slanging match with Hersh. We just bantered with him and laughed.
Not sure if other posters got over-sensitive, but I do not know all the circumstances.
I trust the Mods here to have managed & judged it all correctly, so though I'll miss Hersh, he must have done something.

by TJ1 Wed 28 Nov 2012, 4:04 pm

Awop was just a troll from what I saw. Hersh did bring some good stuff as well as being a pain

by RubyGuby Wed 28 Nov 2012, 4:05 pm

In that case be on the look out for a new poster going by AnotherWorldofHersh thumbsup

by eirebilly Wed 28 Nov 2012, 4:50 pm

RubyGuby wrote:In that case be on the look out for a new poster going by AnotherWorldofHersh

I will champion HERSH's cause to be reinstated Very Happy

As many have said, he may have lacked tact but he knew his stuff and had his finger very much on the pulse of what signings were being made.

by Guest Wed 28 Nov 2012, 5:05 pm

Shame about HERSH he at least would chat rugby sometimes but AWOP and Roger Lewis just seemed bitter

by freeman lowell Wed 28 Nov 2012, 5:11 pm

I hope they get reinstated, gonna be a bit dull without em I fear.....

by Intotouch Wed 28 Nov 2012, 6:26 pm

He made me laugh once. Once isn't enough to compensate for the sh't-stirring the rest of the time though. I'm glad the mods are banning wums.

by Guest Wed 28 Nov 2012, 7:00 pm

Heard HERSH got into a fight and his mum told him he has to live with his auntie and uncle in Bel Air

by HongKongCherry Wed 28 Nov 2012, 7:13 pm

I can't stand him, good riddance I say! Wink

There is no doubt some of his posts touched on being a wum, but they weren't vindictive or trolling, they were always with a touch of humour. But despite him being my bitter rival, I thoroughly enjoy his banter and this place will be worse of without him. I suggest we reinstate him, but make him sit in the corner with a dunce's cap.

by sirtidychris Wed 28 Nov 2012, 7:29 pm

viewtothegym wrote:Heard HERSH got into a fight and his mum told him he has to live with his auntie and uncle in Bel Air

Supposedly he whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said HERSH and there were dice in the mirror

by thebluesmancometh Wed 28 Nov 2012, 10:21 pm

HERSH is banned Shocked

What did he do? blunt and a bit of a wind up now and then but who isn't, putting him on par with AWOP is such an insult to the man!!

by goneagain Wed 28 Nov 2012, 10:29 pm

Surely these so called trolls are only as guilty as the fish they hook.

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck; it's probably a duck.

Set my people free!

by wasps Wed 28 Nov 2012, 10:50 pm

This is like one of those films where a set of circumstances cause a group to pull together.
I've never seen so many people stick up for someone...
It's good to see.

I echo most people's comments that HERSH was definitely knowledgeable, and was here to post about rugby.
Some others only seemed to be here to argue and see how many people they could annoy (a bit of a waste of their lives as I see it)

However, forums without mods and without bans are usually amongst the worst forums on the internet.
I'd like to give the mods a +1 for the good work that they do here.

by Artful_Dodger Wed 28 Nov 2012, 11:10 pm

Glad HERSH is gone lost count of the number of threads that he sabotaged by turning it into a 'Rabo vs Aviva' charade, or England vs Wales or just having a pop at the Celtic nations in general, became very tedious, hence why he did it and was a wum that got banned.

by nganboy Wed 28 Nov 2012, 11:57 pm

Here's a different view.
I thought AWOP was funny and insightful while he was doing the learning English thing. As soon as he dropped it he got stupid and deserved banning.
I had less problem with Hersh than I do with others who seemed to go on longer about non issues.

by blackcanelion Thu 29 Nov 2012, 12:23 am

I'm sad that both of them are gone. They spiced up the site and threads. I can fully understand why both have been given their marching orders. They just take too much time and energy to manage.

For me they both have strong opinions, a love of the game and passion for their teams. AWOP gets bad press, but I'm not sure he's worse than a number of other posters. In many ways he's similar to Hersh.

I'd say if you don't want AWOP back, then the same should apply for HERSH. I'd happily have both of them back, if a way could be found.

by sickofwendy Thu 29 Nov 2012, 12:33 am

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me!!!

by ultra Thu 29 Nov 2012, 1:25 am

Dissapointed in the hersh ban. interesting poster with a hint of irreverence.

by AlastairW Thu 29 Nov 2012, 8:26 am

sirtidychris wrote:
viewtothegym wrote:Heard HERSH got into a fight and his mum told him he has to live with his auntie and uncle in Bel Air

Supposedly he whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said HERSH and there were dice in the mirror

Rumour also goes he pulled up to the Rec around seven or eight, and he yelled to the cabby 'Yo AWOP, smell ya later'.

by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 29 Nov 2012, 8:35 am

From yesterdays Western Mail

HERSH Apologises

I want to say how bad I feel and how embarrassed I am to be in this situation,” said HERSH. “It is not the BATH way and I have let myself down and the team and probably the whole country is pretty proud of what we do.

I hope Roger Lewis does recover and get back up and running and play in the creche as soon as he can.

I have been on the phone and talked to him on Sunday about the incident and obviously the 606v2 management and the leader group that I am a part of has been pretty stern on me for getting us into this situation.

I have to take what I have got and go back and start building a reputation as a good, clean, hard trollr and hopefully I can do that in the next 6 Nations competition when I get back online.

by gregortree Thu 29 Nov 2012, 9:58 am

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:From yesterdays Western Mail

HERSH Apologises

I want to say how bad I feel and how embarrassed I am to be in this situation,” said HERSH. “It is not the BATH way and I have let myself down and the team and probably the whole country is pretty proud of what we do.

I hope Roger Lewis does recover and get back up and running and play in the creche as soon as he can.

I have been on the phone and talked to him on Sunday about the incident and obviously the 606v2 management and the leader group that I am a part of has been pretty stern on me for getting us into this situation.

I have to take what I have got and go back and start building a reputation as a good, clean, hard trollr and hopefully I can do that in the next 6 Nations competition when I get back online.

PSW that is funny. Maybe HERSH can do his porridge and rejoin 606 society in due course.

by thebluesmancometh Thu 29 Nov 2012, 10:44 am

I expect HERSH to be better than that, he has too much dignity and pride to return under a new name surely, AWOP on the other hand I am positive is already back on and keeping his head down for a while!!

by gregortree Thu 29 Nov 2012, 10:49 am

Grey Ghost is back:
Haunting Biltong on a new site:

http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/11/28/heyneke-meyer-a-year-in-review-part-i/

by SecretFly Thu 29 Nov 2012, 11:18 am

hmmm....advertising site competitors.................. a big no-no in the rules.

Tomorrow is going to be a "Where is gregortree?" day Wink

by gregortree Thu 29 Nov 2012, 12:19 pm

Hersh:
Good old HERSH he's busy flipping burgers for the AB squad:

"New Zealand's preparations for Saturday's Test against England have been disrupted because of a sickness bug which has swept through the squad.Head coach Steve Hansen revealed all but two members of his squad have suffered with diarrhoea and vomiting." vomit

by Mr Taff Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:00 am

Justice4Hersh

by AlastairW Fri 30 Nov 2012, 11:36 am

Mr Taff wrote:Justice4Hersh

I think you'll find it was Justice2Hersh

Run

by Smirnoffpriest Fri 30 Nov 2012, 3:32 pm

I've got to say Finally

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