Price vs Fury

First topic message reminder :

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/181499.html

Possible fight next summer. However

Tysons got his eyes set elsewhere

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/181154.html

Also Brook looks lin line for Vegas


http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/181381.html


Slowly but surely.

barry black wrote:Fury will knock price out in two rounds.

I think price will win in the first round after Fury knocks himself out.

Spoiler:

Trenchtown, it never gets old, does it! The classics will always be funny

It might turn Tyson fury into a Chuck Norris like figure. Tyson Fury is so hard that he punches himself out of pity for his opponent.

Or Tyson has no pity - he knocks out his opponent then teaches him how to punch a real man in the face in one flowing movement

Ghosts sit around the campfire telling Fury stories.

Tyson Fury is soo hard.......fact

bhb001 wrote:Trenchtown, it never gets old, does it! The classics will always be funny

Ive lost count how may times ive watched it, the novilty will wear off after a while but I dare say it will be watched over the festive period,easter,halloween,birthdays and mabe valentines day.

mobilemaster8 wrote:Tyson Fury is soo hard.......fact

I'd like to see Fury against someone like Skelton or Sexton or some even remotely decent domestic heavyweight. His best win was against Chisora, when Chisora was in the worst shape of his life. I've no idea why anyone would think Fury can beat Pirce on the evidence they've seen so far.

SuperCert wrote:I'd like to see Fury against someone like Skelton or Sexton or some even remotely decent domestic heavyweight. His best win was against Chisora, when Chisora was in the worst shape of his life. I've no idea why anyone would think Fury can beat Pirce on the evidence they've seen so far.

Chisora and Johnson are better fighters than anything Price has faced. Price's best two opponents are a 40 year old harrisson and a 45 year old skelton.

Chisora and Johnson are better fighters than anything Price has faced

Price still knocks Fury in to next week.

Haven't seen Fury struggle quite as badly with someone as average as big John McDermott either. The latter being robbed blind in that one.

Exactly Fury should already have a loss. And Fury struggled massively against an out of shape Chisora. If Chisora had come in shape it would have been another loss. Fury has been knocked down by one of the lightest punching journeymen in HW Boxing, yet Price's chin is under scrutiny. Fury has next to no chance against Price.

When it comes to this subject I have to class myself as very much a Furosceptic (see what I did there) but even someone as unsold on Fury as me has to say some people on here are selling him short. I believe Price will beat him and will go on to be a far better heavyweight than Lennox Lewis ever was but Fury is improving, his conditioning is getting better and whilst his jab ain’t getting confused with Holmes any time soon it is developing into a half decent weapon.

Also whilst Price looks the part and clearly has a dig there are still question marks, we have not seen him under fire yet, have not seen how his whiskers hold up and the truth is it is not hard to look great against opponents of a certain level. My money would be on Price but think Fury has done enough to deserve to be considered no less than even money in this fight.

AlexHuckerby wrote:Exactly Fury should already have a loss. And Fury struggled massively against an out of shape Chisora. If Chisora had come in shape it would have been another loss.

If if if, but but but.

Fury and Chisora both turned up for what was the biggest fight of their careers to that point and a fight which was a risk for both, and Fury won. It's ridiculous how Price gets more credit for pulverising domestic also-rans than Fury does for outscoring a solid European-level fighter who, by going the full twelve with Vitali, ensured that he's achieved a hell of a lot more than all of Price's most high-profile victims put together.

If Dallas hadn't have taken the Price fight at such short notice then the fight may well have taken a different course. If McDermott hadn't spent his training before fighting Price taking part in pie eating contests then perhaps Price wouldn't have knocked him out so quickly.

Far too easy sometimes to let speculation cloud the facts. Fury, by winning the British and Commonwealth titles and getting himself in contention for a fight with a Klitschko after just four years and twenty fights as a professional, has already surpassed what I imagine most people on here thought he'd achieve back when they were watching him uppercutting himself and labouring to an unconvincing win over McDermott back in 2009. And yet still no credit comes his way.

Price is so overrated its ridiculous. If he was as good as people say he is the he would be world champion by now. He is nearly 30 now. People need to do their rsearch and look at who he is fighting. They are terrible heavyweights. Its boxers like Price and Klitschko that get massively overrated because the era is so bad.

Rowley wrote:When it comes to this subject I have to class myself as very much a Furosceptic (see what I did there) but even someone as unsold on Fury as me has to say some people on here are selling him short. I believe Price will beat him and will go on to be a far better heavyweight than Lennox Lewis ever was but Fury is improving, his conditioning is getting better and whilst his jab ain’t getting confused with Holmes any time soon it is developing into a half decent weapon.

Also whilst Price looks the part and clearly has a dig there are still question marks, we have not seen him under fire yet, have not seen how his whiskers hold up and the truth is it is not hard to look great against opponents of a certain level. My money would be on Price but think Fury has done enough to deserve to be considered no less than even money in this fight.

Haha Price will be better than Lewis that is one of the worst comments I have ever read.

As they say in Field of Dreams "If you build it, they will come"

Rowley wrote:and whilst his jab ain’t getting confused with Holmes any time soon it is developing into a half decent weapon.

http://www1.skysports.com/news/12040/8313934/

Hennessy added: "I thought Tyson looked fantastic - I was really pleased with how smartly he performed. It was an educated performance. We knew Johnson was looking for the knockout and was setting traps.

"He's got very quick hands for a heavyweight - a quality left hook and right hand. He is heavy handed, especially over 12 rounds. So all in all, it was a great gameplan and Tyson executed it brilliantly.

"He was smart and also showed a hell of a lot of flair. It's hand speed that you just don't see with heavyweights. It's an absolutely sensational jab, too; a Larry Holmes-type jab."

Gordy wrote:

Rowley wrote:When it comes to this subject I have to class myself as very much a Furosceptic (see what I did there) but even someone as unsold on Fury as me has to say some people on here are selling him short. I believe Price will beat him and will go on to be a far better heavyweight than Lennox Lewis ever was but Fury is improving, his conditioning is getting better and whilst his jab ain’t getting confused with Holmes any time soon it is developing into a half decent weapon.

Also whilst Price looks the part and clearly has a dig there are still question marks, we have not seen him under fire yet, have not seen how his whiskers hold up and the truth is it is not hard to look great against opponents of a certain level. My money would be on Price but think Fury has done enough to deserve to be considered no less than even money in this fight.

Haha Price will be better than Lewis that is one of the worst comments I have ever read.

You missed the part about being "far better"

Fury > Calzaghe. What do you think?

Gordy wrote:Price is so overrated its ridiculous. If he was as good as people say he is the he would be world champion by now. He is nearly 30 now. People need to do their rsearch and look at who he is fighting. They are terrible heavyweights. Its boxers like Price and Klitschko that get massively overrated because the era is so bad.

I agree price is overrated. He has looked good in his 15 fights as a professional but he has been fighting such poor opposition anyone would look good.

I'm not a fan of fury but fury for me has faced the better opposition and will be the bigger star. price is nearly 30 with 15 fights whilst Fury is about 23 with 20 fights (including victories over Chisora and Johnson, both of whom went the distance with Vitali Klitschko).

If Price wants to be taken seriously and wants to improve he has to face better opposition, facing a 41 year old Harrison and then a 45 year old Skelton (both of whom are c-level fighters) must not happen again, he needs to face younger/better quality opponents.

victorgarco wrote:

Gordy wrote:Price is so overrated its ridiculous. If he was as good as people say he is the he would be world champion by now. He is nearly 30 now. People need to do their rsearch and look at who he is fighting. They are terrible heavyweights. Its boxers like Price and Klitschko that get massively overrated because the era is so bad.

I agree price is overrated. He has looked good in his 15 fights as a professional but he has been fighting such poor opposition anyone would look good.

I'm not a fan of fury but fury for me has faced the better opposition and will be the bigger star. price is nearly 30 with 15 fights whilst Fury is about 23 with 20 fights (including victories over Chisora and Johnson, both of whom went the distance with Vitali Klitschko).

If Price wants to be taken seriously and wants to improve he has to face better opposition, facing a 41 year old Harrison and then a 45 year old Skelton (both of whom are c-level fighters) must not happen again, he needs to face younger/better quality opponents.

After 15 fights:

Tyson: Mark Young
Ali: Alejandro Lavorante
Vitali: Alben Belinski

Think you know where I'm going with this.

Well I hope so anyway, if you need an explanation let me know.

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

Gordy wrote:Price is so overrated its ridiculous. If he was as good as people say he is the he would be world champion by now. He is nearly 30 now. People need to do their rsearch and look at who he is fighting. They are terrible heavyweights. Its boxers like Price and Klitschko that get massively overrated because the era is so bad.

I agree price is overrated. He has looked good in his 15 fights as a professional but he has been fighting such poor opposition anyone would look good.

I'm not a fan of fury but fury for me has faced the better opposition and will be the bigger star. price is nearly 30 with 15 fights whilst Fury is about 23 with 20 fights (including victories over Chisora and Johnson, both of whom went the distance with Vitali Klitschko).

If Price wants to be taken seriously and wants to improve he has to face better opposition, facing a 41 year old Harrison and then a 45 year old Skelton (both of whom are c-level fighters) must not happen again, he needs to face younger/better quality opponents.

After 15 fights:

Tyson: Mark Young
Ali: Alejandro Lavorante
Vitali: Alben Belinski

Think you know where I'm going with this.

Well I hope so anyway, if you need an explanation let me know.

But they were much younger than price who is nearly 30.

I am saying price is overrated. He has had 15 fights against nobodies yet people on here are saying he will be better than Lewis and if he faced david Haye now he would beat him easily and that he is technically as good as vitali klitschko and would give klitschko a close fight.

Coxy doesn't count as people victor more like supreme overlord of the solar system and pimper of marilyn monroe

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

Gordy wrote:Price is so overrated its ridiculous. If he was as good as people say he is the he would be world champion by now. He is nearly 30 now. People need to do their rsearch and look at who he is fighting. They are terrible heavyweights. Its boxers like Price and Klitschko that get massively overrated because the era is so bad.

I agree price is overrated. He has looked good in his 15 fights as a professional but he has been fighting such poor opposition anyone would look good.

I'm not a fan of fury but fury for me has faced the better opposition and will be the bigger star. price is nearly 30 with 15 fights whilst Fury is about 23 with 20 fights (including victories over Chisora and Johnson, both of whom went the distance with Vitali Klitschko).

If Price wants to be taken seriously and wants to improve he has to face better opposition, facing a 41 year old Harrison and then a 45 year old Skelton (both of whom are c-level fighters) must not happen again, he needs to face younger/better quality opponents.

After 15 fights:

Tyson: Mark Young
Ali: Alejandro Lavorante
Vitali: Alben Belinski

Think you know where I'm going with this.

Well I hope so anyway, if you need an explanation let me know.

But they were much younger than price who is nearly 30.

So we should rate him lower because of his age? Don't get why age comes in to it. He had an extensive amateur career and is now fighting in a proper professional style. He's got years left, so don't see the point in what you're saying. He's in awesome shape, is getting better and better.. So again, don't see what you're on about.

ShahenshahG wrote:Coxy doesn't count as people victor more like supreme overlord of the solar system and pimper of marilyn monroe

What's your fascination with me and Marilyn Munroe?!

88Chris05 wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Exactly Fury should already have a loss. And Fury struggled massively against an out of shape Chisora. If Chisora had come in shape it would have been another loss.

If if if, but but but.

Fury and Chisora both turned up for what was the biggest fight of their careers to that point and a fight which was a risk for both, and Fury won. It's ridiculous how Price gets more credit for pulverising domestic also-rans than Fury does for outscoring a solid European-level fighter who, by going the full twelve with Vitali, ensured that he's achieved a hell of a lot more than all of Price's most high-profile victims put together.

If Dallas hadn't have taken the Price fight at such short notice then the fight may well have taken a different course. If McDermott hadn't spent his training before fighting Price taking part in pie eating contests then perhaps Price wouldn't have knocked him out so quickly.

Far too easy sometimes to let speculation cloud the facts. Fury, by winning the British and Commonwealth titles and getting himself in contention for a fight with a Klitschko after just four years and twenty fights as a professional, has already surpassed what I imagine most people on here thought he'd achieve back when they were watching him uppercutting himself and labouring to an unconvincing win over McDermott back in 2009. And yet still no credit comes his way.

Put as simply as I can even with the opponents Fury has been incredibly lucky in his career so far and he's an accident waiting to happen.

For the life of me I can't see how you can give a lot of credit to Fury for the Chisora fight. Give him all the credit in the world for taking the fight on, but COME ON!!!! He came in a shape Butterbean would have been proud of, it of course isn't Fury's fault, but it looked pretty clear to me that if Chisora had the 12 round stamina he usually has Fury would have been taken out. The first couple of rounds before Chisora gassed tells you everything you need to know about Fury against a genuine opponent in my view. He scraped through and Chisora was cream crackered after the 2nd.

Can I just point out at this juncture not everything written on here has to be taken literally, frequently people will use devices such as metaphors or similes. Similarly sometimes things will be said solely to mock or get a rise out of other users or to mock how fiercely the defend or praise a given fighter. Think if we can all bear this in mind before we post we may find this thread a little easier to navigate.

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

Gordy wrote:Price is so overrated its ridiculous. If he was as good as people say he is the he would be world champion by now. He is nearly 30 now. People need to do their rsearch and look at who he is fighting. They are terrible heavyweights. Its boxers like Price and Klitschko that get massively overrated because the era is so bad.

I agree price is overrated. He has looked good in his 15 fights as a professional but he has been fighting such poor opposition anyone would look good.

I'm not a fan of fury but fury for me has faced the better opposition and will be the bigger star. price is nearly 30 with 15 fights whilst Fury is about 23 with 20 fights (including victories over Chisora and Johnson, both of whom went the distance with Vitali Klitschko).

If Price wants to be taken seriously and wants to improve he has to face better opposition, facing a 41 year old Harrison and then a 45 year old Skelton (both of whom are c-level fighters) must not happen again, he needs to face younger/better quality opponents.

After 15 fights:

Tyson: Mark Young
Ali: Alejandro Lavorante
Vitali: Alben Belinski

Think you know where I'm going with this.

Well I hope so anyway, if you need an explanation let me know.

But they were much younger than price who is nearly 30.

So we should rate him lower because of his age? Don't get why age comes in to it. He had an extensive amateur career and is now fighting in a proper professional style. He's got years left, so don't see the point in what you're saying. He's in awesome shape, is getting better and better.. So again, don't see what you're on about.

Did I say rate him lower because of his age? you compared him to Ali, klitschko, tyson etc and I simply said he is older as he has about 10 years on Tyson and Ali and abut 5 years on Klitschko.

The main crux of the argument is that he has faced nobodies, has only had 15 fights yet he is massively overrated. There's one thing saying that he has the potential in 3/4 years to be as good as a Klitschko or to beat David Haye or dominate the HW division there is another thing to say he would KO Haye if they faced now and that right now he is technically as good as Klitschko. That's the overrating I am talking about.

So then Alex, if Fury doesn't deserve credit for the Chisora win, what win on his ledger could Price possibly deserve even a shred of credit for so far? If your answer is anything other than 'none' then you're operating with double standards when it comes to the pair, surely?

I'm not saying he deserves NO credit but shouldn't be given credit for beating a Euro level operator, because that night Chisora wasn't a Euro level operator. He struggled badly in the fight when Chisora was FAR from his best and that also has to go against him.

Price in my view should only be given extra credit for the Sexton win, who was his most game and fresh opponent, with how thoroughly he dominated him, also the fact that so far he hasn't shown the major weaknesses that Fury has shown at the same level.

The main crux of the argument is that he has faced nobodies, has only had 15 fights yet he is massively overrated.

But you won't apply the same to Fury, will you? Chisora and Johnson aren't exactly world beaters, and in the case of both haven't exactly beaten much in their careers either.

He's had 5 more fights and expect that inside 5 fights Price will have fought a better calibre than Fury at that point in their careers.

Guessing Price is such a nobody that there's a massive clamour to get the fight on between himself and Fury then.... That he's not deserving of a shot at someone you perceive to be 'above' him.

coxy0001 wrote:

The main crux of the argument is that he has faced nobodies, has only had 15 fights yet he is massively overrated.

But you won't apply the same to Fury, will you? Chisora and Johnson aren't exactly world beaters, and in the case of both haven't exactly beaten much in their careers either.

He's had 5 more fights and expect that inside 5 fights Price will have fought a better calibre than Fury at that point in their careers.

Guessing Price is such a nobody that there's a massive clamour to get the fight on between himself and Fury then.... That he's not deserving of a shot at someone you perceive to be 'above' him.

Price is talking about fighting Chisora next a guy who Fury beat and has gone on to lose 4/5 fights. So he is hardly calling out big names and I doubt that trend will change.

Well, apparent weaknesses aside, Chisora beat Sexton twice inside schedule, did he not? Do you think that even the tubby version of Chisora who fought Fury would have failed to do the same against Sexton for a third time? A tubby Chisora is still better than anything on Price's record.

It's not even as if that's the only name on Fury's record which trumps anything by Price, either. Johnson would stick out like a sore thumb amongst the men Price has been cutting through as well. Even Rogan holds victories over the Audleys and Skeltons of this world.

Sorry mate, I'm not digging at you personally, but these sort of comments just sum up the hypocrisy which grows as this 'rivalry' between price and Fury developes. They've been professional for the same amount of time and it's Fury who has faced and beaten the better men and achieved more thus far, and yet he's still seen as some kind of joke figure and is being put in Price's shadow. The fella has clearly worked hard over the past eighteen months to improve his game, build up his conditioning and is visiby amongst the better Heavyweights out there aside from the Klitschkos. And yet due to his personality traits, people just point blank refuse to acknwledge any of this.

I believe you're basically saying that you'd rate Price's win over Sexton as being better than Fury's over Chisora - which is just insane, for me.

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

The main crux of the argument is that he has faced nobodies, has only had 15 fights yet he is massively overrated.

But you won't apply the same to Fury, will you? Chisora and Johnson aren't exactly world beaters, and in the case of both haven't exactly beaten much in their careers either.

He's had 5 more fights and expect that inside 5 fights Price will have fought a better calibre than Fury at that point in their careers.

Guessing Price is such a nobody that there's a massive clamour to get the fight on between himself and Fury then.... That he's not deserving of a shot at someone you perceive to be 'above' him.

Price is talking about fighting Chisora next a guy who Fury beat and has gone on to lose 4/5 fights. So he is hardly calling out big names and I doubt that trend will change.

One minute Chisora is a reason to rate Fury above Price then it's he's not doing anything for Price...

Make your mind up eh?

Do feel in all this my brilliant Furosceptic play on words has been cruelly overlooked.

Not for me, the version of Chisora that turned up against Fury would be beaten by Sexton. I urge you to go rewatch Chisora and Sextons fights. Very close tough physical contests but Dereck was able to get to him and break him down, Chisora coming in like the Muffin Man wouldn't have had that extra gear to get to due blowing his load by the end of the third round. For me that is reasonable, not insanity.

Rowley wrote:Do feel in all this my brilliant Furosceptic play on words has been cruelly overlooked.

You posted that over an hour ago.... more surprised you remembered you'd posted it...

Rowley wrote:Do feel in all this my brilliant Furosceptic play on words has been cruelly overlooked.

I thought it was clever.

AlexHuckerby wrote:

Rowley wrote:Do feel in all this my brilliant Furosceptic play on words has been cruelly overlooked.

I thought it was clever.

Thanks Alex, so did I, obviously don't want to come across as too needy on this one but it was a zinger.

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

The main crux of the argument is that he has faced nobodies, has only had 15 fights yet he is massively overrated.

But you won't apply the same to Fury, will you? Chisora and Johnson aren't exactly world beaters, and in the case of both haven't exactly beaten much in their careers either.

He's had 5 more fights and expect that inside 5 fights Price will have fought a better calibre than Fury at that point in their careers.

Guessing Price is such a nobody that there's a massive clamour to get the fight on between himself and Fury then.... That he's not deserving of a shot at someone you perceive to be 'above' him.

Price is talking about fighting Chisora next a guy who Fury beat and has gone on to lose 4/5 fights. So he is hardly calling out big names and I doubt that trend will change.

One minute Chisora is a reason to rate Fury above Price then it's he's not doing anything for Price...

Make your mind up eh?

Fury faced an unbeaten Chisora. The version that price would face would be a fighter on a massive losing streak. That is the main difference.

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

The main crux of the argument is that he has faced nobodies, has only had 15 fights yet he is massively overrated.

But you won't apply the same to Fury, will you? Chisora and Johnson aren't exactly world beaters, and in the case of both haven't exactly beaten much in their careers either.

He's had 5 more fights and expect that inside 5 fights Price will have fought a better calibre than Fury at that point in their careers.

Guessing Price is such a nobody that there's a massive clamour to get the fight on between himself and Fury then.... That he's not deserving of a shot at someone you perceive to be 'above' him.

Price is talking about fighting Chisora next a guy who Fury beat and has gone on to lose 4/5 fights. So he is hardly calling out big names and I doubt that trend will change.

One minute Chisora is a reason to rate Fury above Price then it's he's not doing anything for Price...

Make your mind up eh?

Fury faced an unbeaten Chisora. The version that price would face would be a fighter on a massive losing streak. That is the main difference.

On the other hand Chisora hadn't even had 15 fights so by your logic couldn't have been any good.

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

The main crux of the argument is that he has faced nobodies, has only had 15 fights yet he is massively overrated.

But you won't apply the same to Fury, will you? Chisora and Johnson aren't exactly world beaters, and in the case of both haven't exactly beaten much in their careers either.

He's had 5 more fights and expect that inside 5 fights Price will have fought a better calibre than Fury at that point in their careers.

Guessing Price is such a nobody that there's a massive clamour to get the fight on between himself and Fury then.... That he's not deserving of a shot at someone you perceive to be 'above' him.

Price is talking about fighting Chisora next a guy who Fury beat and has gone on to lose 4/5 fights. So he is hardly calling out big names and I doubt that trend will change.

One minute Chisora is a reason to rate Fury above Price then it's he's not doing anything for Price...

Make your mind up eh?

Fury faced an unbeaten Chisora. The version that price would face would be a fighter on a massive losing streak. That is the main difference.

Alternatively much more experienced, and much better conditioned especially considering the level he's bedn fighting at despite losing.

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

The main crux of the argument is that he has faced nobodies, has only had 15 fights yet he is massively overrated.

But you won't apply the same to Fury, will you? Chisora and Johnson aren't exactly world beaters, and in the case of both haven't exactly beaten much in their careers either.

He's had 5 more fights and expect that inside 5 fights Price will have fought a better calibre than Fury at that point in their careers.

Guessing Price is such a nobody that there's a massive clamour to get the fight on between himself and Fury then.... That he's not deserving of a shot at someone you perceive to be 'above' him.

Price is talking about fighting Chisora next a guy who Fury beat and has gone on to lose 4/5 fights. So he is hardly calling out big names and I doubt that trend will change.

One minute Chisora is a reason to rate Fury above Price then it's he's not doing anything for Price...

Make your mind up eh?

Fury faced an unbeaten Chisora. The version that price would face would be a fighter on a massive losing streak. That is the main difference.

On the other hand Chisora hadn't even had 15 fights so by your logic couldn't have been any good.

Don't confuse me calling someone overrated to me saying they are no good. If you don't understand the two terms a dictionary will help.

We'll agree to disagree on that one then, Alex. Keeping in mind that Fury would summarily have beaten Sexton, too (but received zero credit for it, no doubt) I maintain that the Chisora who fought Fury would still have had enough to put another 'L' on Sam's record. We shouldn't forget that Chisora did actually test and, at times, wobble Fury in that fight. Some would have us believe that he barely threw a punch of consequence and that Fury just had to turn up to win.

Anyway, I can see you're not for budging on this but my basic point is this - Price is most certainly not in this different stratosphere to Fury the way many are painting him to be, and if Fury had adopted Price's attitude and demeanour you can pretty much guarantee that his career thus far would be more fairly and impartially analysed.

AlexHuckerby wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

The main crux of the argument is that he has faced nobodies, has only had 15 fights yet he is massively overrated.

But you won't apply the same to Fury, will you? Chisora and Johnson aren't exactly world beaters, and in the case of both haven't exactly beaten much in their careers either.

He's had 5 more fights and expect that inside 5 fights Price will have fought a better calibre than Fury at that point in their careers.

Guessing Price is such a nobody that there's a massive clamour to get the fight on between himself and Fury then.... That he's not deserving of a shot at someone you perceive to be 'above' him.

Price is talking about fighting Chisora next a guy who Fury beat and has gone on to lose 4/5 fights. So he is hardly calling out big names and I doubt that trend will change.

One minute Chisora is a reason to rate Fury above Price then it's he's not doing anything for Price...

Make your mind up eh?

Fury faced an unbeaten Chisora. The version that price would face would be a fighter on a massive losing streak. That is the main difference.

Alternatively much more experienced, and much better conditioned especially considering the level he's bedn fighting at despite losing.

I believe he would beat Price.

Will your opinion of Price change if he bangs Chisora out in a couple, compared to Fury's 12 round slogfest?

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

coxy0001 wrote:

The main crux of the argument is that he has faced nobodies, has only had 15 fights yet he is massively overrated.

But you won't apply the same to Fury, will you? Chisora and Johnson aren't exactly world beaters, and in the case of both haven't exactly beaten much in their careers either.

He's had 5 more fights and expect that inside 5 fights Price will have fought a better calibre than Fury at that point in their careers.

Guessing Price is such a nobody that there's a massive clamour to get the fight on between himself and Fury then.... That he's not deserving of a shot at someone you perceive to be 'above' him.

Price is talking about fighting Chisora next a guy who Fury beat and has gone on to lose 4/5 fights. So he is hardly calling out big names and I doubt that trend will change.

One minute Chisora is a reason to rate Fury above Price then it's he's not doing anything for Price...

Make your mind up eh?

Fury faced an unbeaten Chisora. The version that price would face would be a fighter on a massive losing streak. That is the main difference.

On the other hand Chisora hadn't even had 15 fights so by your logic couldn't have been any good.

Don't confuse me calling someone overrated to me saying they are no good. If you don't understand the two terms a dictionary will help.

So we're now going to discount his win over Chisora. You've spent a fair bit of time saying Price has only had 15 fights and fought no-one of note so can't be rated as anything. The same then must apply to Chisora, who hadn't beaten anyone of note either (and don't quote Danny 'James Toney' Williams for christ sake!).

Personally I like Fury, I think he's great fun to watch and enjoy his slightly crazy but daft personality, likewise with Price, he comes across as a very genuine and humble guy.

But for me on what I've seen I reckon Price is levels above Fury boxingwise.

But yeah, agree tio disagree, I respect your opinion nonetheless.

88Chris05 wrote:We'll agree to disagree on that one then, Alex. Keeping in mind that Fury would summarily have beaten Sexton, too (but received zero credit for it, no doubt) I maintain that the Chisora who fought Fury would still have had enough to put another 'L' on Sam's record. We shouldn't forget that Chisora did actually test and, at times, wobble Fury in that fight. Some would have us believe that he barely threw a punch of consequence and that Fury just had to turn up to win.

Anyway, I can see you're not for budging on this but my basic point is this - Price is most certainly not in this different stratosphere to Fury the way many are painting him to be, and if Fury had adopted Price's attitude and demeanour you can pretty much guarantee that his career thus far would be more fairly and impartially analysed.

Got nothing against Fury's record what so ever and it also wasn't his fault Chisora came 20 pounds over his natural fighting weight. But it doesn't take a genius to see that Price is the far more accomplished boxer. Fury has been in some unnecessary scraps, getting buzzed from time to time and even getting put on his ar$e by non punchers. Fury tends not to fight using his strengths while Price does utilise what he has. If Fury is getting buzzed and knocked down by these non punchers, would he be able to handle Prices right hand? I doubt it.