Charlie Zelenoff
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Charlie Zelenoff
Has anybody seen/heard of this guy?
Mentally ill American with a 0-1 record (he's not very good at the old boxing game to be honest) who had a sparring session with the Floyd Mayweather Sr of today, got hit too hard and climbed out of the ring, only to return while Floyds back was turned and take a swing at him. I was speechless after watching various videos of him.
His pro debut- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wc_9_fjjnw
His spar with Floyd Sr- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GKuiQobQi0
Sucker punching the opponent from his debut- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxumQTjBLgY
Just wondering what all you people think of this individual?
Mentally ill American with a 0-1 record (he's not very good at the old boxing game to be honest) who had a sparring session with the Floyd Mayweather Sr of today, got hit too hard and climbed out of the ring, only to return while Floyds back was turned and take a swing at him. I was speechless after watching various videos of him.
His pro debut- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wc_9_fjjnw
His spar with Floyd Sr- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GKuiQobQi0
Sucker punching the opponent from his debut- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxumQTjBLgY
Just wondering what all you people think of this individual?
BallchinianMuffwig- Posts : 453
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
glad the little lad battered him, lucky junior wasnt there
eddyfightfan- Posts : 2925
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Seems like a bit of a tool. Who was the little black fella who gave him a hiding?
Lumbering_Jack- Posts : 4341
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Haha I remember him from Eastside Boxing, use to spew some garbage saying he would beat Hopkins etc. Then he was DQ'd against a guy who was 1(0) - 14(14)
Soldier_Of_Fortune- Posts : 4420
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
The guy has some genuine mental issues rather than just talking nonsense. He actually thinks he is fighting for real titles in the future, bit of a sad story really.
bellchees- Posts : 1776
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Deary me, that's awful.
AlexHuckerby- Posts : 9201
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
The guy is an internet legend... for the wrong reasons it seems.
I haven't seen any of these, but Christmas may come early with this guy as it seems he's a gift that just keeps giving. YES - These are ALL videos of him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC62H2opk3U - Charlie Zelenoff: the rise and fall documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6tbXr6Hd3U - MTV Cribs, featuring Charlie Zelenoff's parents home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XUxNGsUOEY - Zelenoff Fails To Rip His Shirt Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDUk4ONkXRw - Zelenoff hits himself in the face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbe-FB7ouc0 - Zelenoff High
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEomfEzdkVc - Charlie pretends to ba gangsta again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3sYz_qmCZ0 - Charlie Zelenoff High Again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFbJaJ20_8I - Quest For Charlie Zelenoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQCd8yMH6ug - Zelenoff Mad
I haven't seen any of these, but Christmas may come early with this guy as it seems he's a gift that just keeps giving. YES - These are ALL videos of him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC62H2opk3U - Charlie Zelenoff: the rise and fall documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6tbXr6Hd3U - MTV Cribs, featuring Charlie Zelenoff's parents home.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XUxNGsUOEY - Zelenoff Fails To Rip His Shirt Off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDUk4ONkXRw - Zelenoff hits himself in the face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbe-FB7ouc0 - Zelenoff High
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEomfEzdkVc - Charlie pretends to ba gangsta again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3sYz_qmCZ0 - Charlie Zelenoff High Again!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFbJaJ20_8I - Quest For Charlie Zelenoff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQCd8yMH6ug - Zelenoff Mad
School Project- Posts : 1503
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
I've been reading a little more about him...
He's believes he's a "UBF Champion"? - If he had created a character then it may be funny, but this guy is for real (in terms of mental instability) from what I've read...
He's believes he's a "UBF Champion"? - If he had created a character then it may be funny, but this guy is for real (in terms of mental instability) from what I've read...
School Project- Posts : 1503
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School Project wrote:I've been reading a little more about him...
He's believes he's a "UBF Champion"? - If he had created a character then it may be funny, but this guy is for real (in terms of mental instability) from what I've read...
Yep he's a first rate nut from what I can gather, needs some help before he gets himself or someone else hurt bad. You can't just go round sucker punching people like he does without some ramifications.
bellchees- Posts : 1776
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
I've heard a few people say that it's all an act. I'm a lot more comfortable with that idea than the reality that he may well be an absolute nutter. Here he is calling out Wladimir Klitschko no less:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWBrJqaTnBE&list=PLA5FF653494137E90&index=23
Apparently the "UBF" world championship doesn't care too much about weight divisions! At least old Charlie Z was good enough to agree to a 80-20 split of the purse. He clearly punches hard enough to crack open a bank vault, so he'll no doubt get his revenge for all that "sh!t" that Wlad has been talking about him.
It's utterly hilarious stuff, if it wasn't for the potentially tragic undertones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWBrJqaTnBE&list=PLA5FF653494137E90&index=23
Apparently the "UBF" world championship doesn't care too much about weight divisions! At least old Charlie Z was good enough to agree to a 80-20 split of the purse. He clearly punches hard enough to crack open a bank vault, so he'll no doubt get his revenge for all that "sh!t" that Wlad has been talking about him.
It's utterly hilarious stuff, if it wasn't for the potentially tragic undertones.
Boxtthis- Posts : 1374
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Frightening really. You have to hope that this person doesn't get access to a gun or more than u-tube will be carrying his pictures
bhb001- Posts : 2675
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Just tried to reverse-linear his UBF title, but it doesn't really work.
Using forward / backward reverse linear theory I did get to Guillermo Rigondeaux in four steps though, which was nice.
Using forward / backward reverse linear theory I did get to Guillermo Rigondeaux in four steps though, which was nice.
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
I gather Hennessey is currently in talks with him to fight Fury and is already being billed as "yet another top American"
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Maloney has him pencilled in to fight Price in 2028, as soon as he turn 40.
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Union Cane wrote:Maloney has him pencilled in to fight Price in 2028, as soon as he turn 40.
He's to dangerous to fight Price. Even though he'd be disqualified he would still spark Pricey with a cheap shot.
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Union Cane wrote:Just tried to reverse-linear his UBF title, but it doesn't really work.
Using forward / backward reverse linear theory I did get to Guillermo Rigondeaux in four steps though, which was nice.
In the words of Morpheus of Matrix fame: "Show me"
School Project- Posts : 1503
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Union Cane wrote:Maloney has him pencilled in to fight Price in 2028, as soon as he turn 40.
Haha,
He would have had a shot at Cleverly too, but he doesn't have a full-time job (like nursing) to qualify him to fight our local Math genius.
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Zelenoff lost his only pro fight to Andrew Hartley.
Hartley's previous fight was a defeat to Blaine Burks.
Burks has a brace of defeats to Juan Noriega.
Noriega's last fight was also the debut of Guillermo Rigondeaux.
Hartley's previous fight was a defeat to Blaine Burks.
Burks has a brace of defeats to Juan Noriega.
Noriega's last fight was also the debut of Guillermo Rigondeaux.
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Used to follow this guy on Youtube.
After his one defeat he switched to MMA, had no fights, but still ranked himself the top MMA fighter around.
The guys a lovable loon.
After his one defeat he switched to MMA, had no fights, but still ranked himself the top MMA fighter around.
The guys a lovable loon.
Sir. badgerhands- Posts : 665
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Union Cane wrote:Zelenoff lost his only pro fight to Andrew Hartley.
Hartley's previous fight was a defeat to Blaine Burks.
Burks has a brace of defeats to Juan Noriega.
Noriega's last fight was also the debut of Guillermo Rigondeaux.
How do you find this stuff?! Even on Boxrec this would have taken me over an hour! Haha
School Project- Posts : 1503
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Re: Charlie Zelenoff
Union Cane wrote:Maloney has him pencilled in to fight Price in 2028, as soon as he turn 40.
Touchy.......Hell have no Fury like Union scorned!
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