Nonito Donaire v Guillermo Rigondeaux

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This fight is apparently in the process of negotiations at the moment.

How does everyone see it going?

I didn't say it was unbias, i said it was worth a watch.

The worst part for me was when he said Donaire was protected. Laughable.

Ghosty, I can't argue, Rigo hasn't done a lot as a pro. However, he should some credit for being a world champion and fighting the No2 P4P in the world after only ELEVEN fights.

That all depends on the manner of his defeat, personally I don't see him going past the 5th round but he may surprise. I'm not a fan of these amateur fighters who are hyped to the sky despite not achieving anything in the pro ranks. Gamboa is an exception as he's gone on to perform fairly well with a far more audience friendly style, also not his fault that Salido hadn't read the script in beating Lopez twice.

Why does Rigo get criticised for a close fight with Cordoba?

He beat a 39 fight, 26 year old, former world champion who was five inches bigger then him.....after only SIX fights!!

He gets criticised because he's being hyped as someone who could give Donaire problems, his fans seem to want it every each way they please.

TheMackemMawler wrote:Why does Rigo get criticised for a close fight with Cordoba?

He beat a 39 fight, 26 year old, former world champion who was five inches bigger then him.....after only SIX fights!!

Because Cordoba is a fighter than never really made it and has no good wins on his ledger and while Rigo only had 6 fights he was 30 already off the back of his amateur career so its not like he could have 25 fights before a title shot as he would be in his mid 30's

He has called out fighters (like Donaire) so he has to look good against the guys he should look good against as he hasn't got a big name or any fanbase so he needs to look a million dollars on every occasion. Based on many Rigo fans Donaire is (was) ducking Rigo but they don't really say why Rigo deserves te shot apart from rigo's amateur career

Imperial Ghosty wrote: I'm not a fan of these amateur fighters who are hyped to the sky despite not achieving anything in the pro ranks. Gamboa is an exception as he's gone on to perform fairly well with a far more audience friendly style, also not his fault that Salido hadn't read the script in beating Lopez twice.

I don't know what you are on about??

I can't think of any recent amateur hype jobs other than Harrison and a few other englishmen.... but that's more a symptom of our nations gullible boxing fans than anything else.

Without going to far back in history, most outstanding amateurs do alright...

Ward
Rigo
Gamboa
Bute
Golovkin,
Wlad
Mayweather
Lewis
Bowe.
Khan

Others do ok too...Ortiz, Jirov et al.

And then if you go back further you have..

De la Hoya
Whitaker
Leonard
Ali
Patterson
RJJ
and so on...

Most of these lived up to the justified hype.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:He gets criticised because he's being hyped as someone who could give Donaire problems, his fans seem to want it every each way they please.

Promoters are only doing there jobs.

I am biased.

And most right thinking people give it to Donaire. Don't let it get to you.

Besides, I'd imagaine most people who are hyping him didn't even watch his amateur career and instead read up on him on wiki.

Once they've justified the hype then fair enough but at the moment Rigondeaux and Golovkin haven't, they've both fought sub par opposition and are being lauded to the sky.

On here, yes maybe.

Ring magazine rates the pair very highly and i'm yet to see either of them do anything in the pro ranks to warrant the hype.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Once they've justified the hype then fair enough but at the moment Rigondeaux and Golovkin haven't, they've both fought sub par opposition and are being lauded to the sky.

Hype happens to lots boxers, including those who weren't amazing internationals,for instance, kell brook. Personally, i don't pay too much attention to the hype (but normally an amazing amateur is hyped for good reason).

Lets just hope they all give us entertaining fights!

If more fighters had the same attitude to boxing as Donaire does the sport would be back at its finest, 24/7 drug testing and constantly looking to fight the best and enhance his legacy.

Rigo is a world champion but the guy he won the belt off (Ramos) was losing every round of his world title fight until he landed the money punch. Not to mention that Ramos has just recently lost again. He was hardly a brilliant win.

Rigo is the one shooting his mouth off, so he has to be compared with Donaire on a level playing field, not based on what if's and up till now he has not shown that he has any chance against Donaire.

Donaire just looks unstoppable at the moment, going back to an article on here a little while ago on fighters who 'couldn't lose' in their current weight class, Donaire is the first that springs to mind. Rigondeaux is one of the best amateurs I've ever seen and, despite criticism, has turned himself into a very good pro whom I would give a good chance against most of the division's top operators. However, Donaire is a step above any of the other men at the weight and should have too much.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/donaire-rigondeaux-april-nonito-become-top-ranks-hothouse-050700079--box.html

Makes it sound like the fight won't happen and its Arum being a tw*t as usual.

It's obvious at this point that Bob Arum of Top Rank Promotions has pegged Nonito Donaire (31-1, 20 KOs) as the heir apparent to the Manny Pacquiaio empire, perhaps alongside a rebuilt, repackaged Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and a well-maneuvered Brandon Rios.
And Donaire would certainly be a perfect fit for next-level fame and cash cow status.
"The Filipino Flash" is supremely talented, well-spoken, and charismatic. He can also fight. Yahoo! Sports' 2012 Fighter of the Year had a stellar run last year with four good wins against overall solid opposition. There's little doubt that the 30-year-old three-division world champ could go on to clean out the junior featherweight division and continue his run all the way up to super featherweight, at the very least.
The thing is that the two biggest legacy-defining fights for him have yet to materialize--One against Abner Mares (25-0-1, 13 KOs), the other against Guillermo Rigondeaux (11-0, 8 KOs).
Recently, several boxing websites ran with the story that Donaire vs. Rigondeaux was a "done deal" for April 27. However, upon further review, there is, indeed, reason to still be skeptical.
Promoter Bob Arum was the only source of this story and he chose to reveal this information to Ronnie Nathanielsz, a Philippines-based writer who has, in the past, been used as a message delivery system for Arum's promotional propaganda. Neither Donaire nor Rigondeaux have confirmed this match-up. And, as a matter of fact, Donaire is on record fairly recently as saying that a Rigondeaux fight was not in his immediate plans. While this story certainly could be true, it could just as easily not be true. The Hall of Fame promoter has floated these types of stories to the public before, most notably in the case of Manny Pacquiao, who was linked to a Floyd Mayweather bout by Arum prior to his last six bouts, but never found himself even close to being pushed into a position to actually fight Mayweather. Skeptics would call this "bait and switch." Others might call it a smart way to keep fans on the hook while selling a lesser match-up for his fighter. Whatever the case, fans and media would be wise to wait until the actual contract signing before assuming that Donaire-Rigondeaux is on the agenda.
If, somehow, a Rigondeaux fight doesn't materialize, the question has to be asked whether Donaire will ever be allowed to truly prove himself against the very best in his weight range.
Back when Yuriorkis Gamboa was still a Top Rank fighter, a similar situation took place between the talented Cuban Olympic gold medalist and Puerto Rican breakthrough fighter, Juan Manuel Lopez.
Despite both featherweights fighting under the Top Rank banner and, apparently, reaching their physical primes at the exact same time, the logical Gamboa-Lopez match-up never happened. It was rumored, pre-sold, and hyped by everyone around them, but there was always an excuse not to fight. It was always "next" on the agenda.
That "next" would never come, though, as Lopez would be upset by Orlando Salido and Gamboa's relationship with Arum & company soured, eventually leading to a professional break-up.
In Donaire's case, there would be a lot more money involved in keeping Nonito as the next resident in the House that Manny Built. Arum would likely be extra cautious with him and, not unlike what's been happening up until now, match him against respectable, decent opposition with virtually no chance of beating him. The tragic part of all of this is that Donaire could possibly beat Mares and Rigondeaux and would probably do quite well at featherweight as well. As a protected hothouse flower of Top Rank Promotions, though, he will never be allowed to truly affirm his greatness.
Hopefully, this time, Arum is on the level and he plans on matching his two world class junior featherweights against one another. The world deserves a chance to see Nonito Donaire shine. Nonito Donaire deserves it as well.

Somebody kill arum please