2012/13 Premier League discussion thread part 3

by Guest Sun Jan 20, 2013 4:49 pm

First topic message reminder :

Let the talk, arguments, disagreements and bickering continue...

I really fancy a Spurs win today.

by Guest Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:47 am

What you would value Bale then John? 50 million?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:50 am

Jesus we have scored 1 goal in our last 5 PL games. However we have picked up 4 points in that period. SOLID DEFENCE #CLEANSHEETSMEANATLEASTAPOINT

by Guest Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:54 am

Thing is your talking about Daniel Levy's valuation which is going to be ridiculous as he's known to be a difficult negotiator. I would value Bale at around £35m. Willian just went to Anji for around £30m and he's an extremely good player, proven in the champions league and wanted by many of the top teams. Levy will not sell for anything less than £40m which means, ultimately, Bale going nowhere. It all depends on Spurs reaching the champions league, as to whether or not Bale stays. If they miss out and Barcelona or Man City come calling with bids of £30m and there rejected then I can see it becoming messy with agents and transfer request coming into play. Deals as big as this one, always end up messy and prolonged and Levy will make sure he's got the best deal out there before he agrees.

Without Bale, Spurs don't look anything like a top 4 side. Fact.

by mystiroakey Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:07 am

Mancini must be on borrowed time- surely!!

by Gregers Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:22 am

Whilst I agree with you john that bale is clearly world class I wouldn't say that without him sours aren't a top 4 team. With Holtby, Sandro, Dembele as a central three I would argue that they have one of the best midfields in the prem.

by Duty281 Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:27 pm

A comment on the BBC sums up exactly the way I feel about Man City:

"Blackburn bought the title then fell away. City have bought the title and are now falling away. Not a massive story really.

City fans just remember your place."

Well said that man.

by GSC Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:33 pm

If we disregard all that united have spent as well, yeah.

I wouldn't discount a City revival next season.

by mystiroakey Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:34 pm

city are here for the long haul.. They are no blackburn

by Guest Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:50 pm

i fully expect us to beat Villa in the televised game today!

hopefully a 1-0 or 2-0 win, thats what im thinking....

by The Special Juan Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:55 pm

I reckon in the current PL Spurs are a couple of player short of a title winning team because no one else is miles ahead of everyone. "Back in the day" of the era of some of the greatest PL teams such as the Treble Team, The Invincibles, Jose's Chelsea and any Utd team with Ronaldo in it, Spurs would have no chance at the title but because the quality is very low compared to past seasons then I reckon they have a good chance if they make a few tweaks to the team. I don't think Spurs can compete with Utd, Chelsea and Arsenal for players on an equal footing so maybe that stops them from making the final step.

As for today's game, I will take a point. Everton are one of the few teams who I completely respect and I'm thinking that if Fellaini has "one of those games" they will win as Man Utd have no one who can stop him. Jelavic was a pain in the backside last year at OT but he has been off the pace this season so I wouldn't be surprised should ~~Anichebe~~ Victor get a game. Still, I think lessons have been learned, therefore I think Utd will sneak it by a goal.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:01 pm

CF wrote:i fully expect us to beat Villa in the televised game today!

hopefully a 1-0 or 2-0 win, thats what im thinking....

I think that may be wishful thinking! I think Villa will win today, West Ham aren't great travellers...

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:38 pm

Sky Sports News ‏@SkySportsNews
Aston Villa team v West Ham: Guzan, Lowton, Vlaar, Clark, Baker, Westwood, Delph, N’Zogbia, Bowery, Weimann, Benteke. #SSN

If I'm West Ham I like the look of that team. Jordan Bowery starts. Yikes

by The Special Juan Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:44 pm

West Ham's hoofball + Villa's inability to deal with set pieces? Hmmm. I know where my money is.

by GSC Sun Feb 10, 2013 1:59 pm

As for Man City, time to clear out a few, Dzeko hasn't ever settled really, Tevez continues to take professionalism and loyalty to new lows, Barry was very average when he could run.

I feel for Mancini. Tough job after last year

by mystiroakey Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:02 pm

How can we feel for manchini.. He promised Tevez would never play for him again. He went back on his word and the team looks scitzophrenic..(excuse the misspelling!!)

And I hate the way he has tried to put the blame on Hart!!

With the team city have-- They should be scoring goals for fun..

He needs to get out.. He should never talk about his players to the press in the way he does

by GSC Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:07 pm

Hes being asked to make a madhouse into a broadway production. His biggest mistake was putting his faith in the wrong characters.

As for the Tevez thing, without Tevez they don't win the PL.

by mystiroakey Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:16 pm

A manager cant rip shreads out of his players in the press.

He seems like one of those managers where there is no managmenet player seperation..- with no respect eitherway

He rows with them and they row with him ..

Not saying he isnt tactically decent. But no evidence suggests that he has the main strength needed to be a 'manager' and that offcourse is managing people!

by GSC Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:29 pm

How many chances did he give Balotelli, Tevez etc? His weakness is that he gives these ****heads too much leeway.

by Guest Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:32 pm

Miss of the season?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:33 pm

FreekShow wrote:Miss of the season?

It's up there with the Vaz Te one against Reading

by Corporalhumblebucket Sun Feb 10, 2013 2:53 pm

Hammers need to sharpen up their performance - don't want a repeat of the dismal effort away at against Sunderland a few weeks back.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:09 pm

This is gonna be 1-0. Don't know to who

by JamesLincs Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:17 pm

this is awful Sad

by Corporalhumblebucket Sun Feb 10, 2013 3:22 pm

Let's shake hands on nil nil - no need to bother with the second half... Erm

by JamesLincs Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:09 pm

this really is a laughable performance from west ham, i cant wait til spurs play them

by The Special Juan Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:56 pm

OH ROBIN VAN PERSIE! OH ROBIN VAN PERSIE! OH MICHAEL VAN GERWEN! OH ROBIN VAN PERSIE!

Credit to Everton, they bossed the game for 20/25 minutes but never really created a clear cut chance. Man Utd have had 3 good chances and taken 2.

And Giggsy got his goal!!

by Duty281 Sun Feb 10, 2013 5:59 pm

United's soon to be 12 point lead will ensure that they can place a greater focus on the Champions League. Only a few days till United v Madrid = mouthwatering!

by The Special Juan Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:17 pm

It'll be a high scoring game as both teams are great in attack and woeful at the back but I can't see Utd beating Madrid at all. Utd might be the better team but Madrid have the better players and no doubt Ozil will come back to bite Fergie.

by westisbest Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:30 pm

Much needed win for Villa.

Very nervous even at 2-0. If Weimann had scored, could have relaxed.

Thank god the West Ham wall didnt jump up.

Thank god for the 3 points.

by Ent Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:52 pm

3 points and 12 clear, job done and a fairly easy win.

A word on the Everton scum bags who were singing about Harold shipman and doing aeroplanes - thanks for that.

by Guest Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:01 pm

2-1 defeat to villa picard

i was baffled by our starting XI and the shape of the side as well!

by mystiroakey Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:02 pm

the pl is over

all about 4th spot now!

by westisbest Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:13 pm

and who goes down/stays up.

Lets f ing hope we do the latter.

Considering we have Arsenal away and Man City home next, was a massive win.

Then a small matter of a trip to Reading(which hopefully i'll be going to).

by The Special Juan Sun Feb 10, 2013 10:48 pm

I loved this post on the BBC comments section.

Premier League Games: 651 v 608
Premier League Medals: 12 v 1
Community Shields: 8 v 4
FA Cups: 4 v 5
League Cups: 4 v 2
European Cups: 2 v 0

I'd love it if Utd won the FA Cup this season with Giggsy scoring the winner.

by The Special Juan Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:32 am

Looking back, City's goal yesterday was so good. It was a not-as-good version of the one they scored a few weeks ago where there were something like 5 touches from their own box to the opposition goal.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Feb 11, 2013 12:34 am

The Special Juan wrote:Looking back, City's goal yesterday was so good. It was a not-as-good version of the one they scored a few weeks ago where there were something like 5 touches from their own box to the opposition goal.

That was against us weren't it?! Kompany pinged it up to Aguero, who knocked it 40 yards to Silva edge of the box, who first time laid it off to Dzeko, who slotted home from 12 yards out first time. Scary good

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:36 pm

Suarez

by JamesLincs Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:42 pm

a former lincoln player scores at anfield. beautiful Very Happy

by Lumbering_Jack Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:48 pm

Disgusting from Suarez.

by JamesLincs Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:50 pm

what did he do??

by The Special Juan Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:53 pm

Two dives?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:54 pm

So Liverpool still haven't beaten a top half team this season!

Last season they couldn't hardly beat a bottom half side!

by Duty281 Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:58 pm

Great to see Liverpool beaten. Utter scummy side that has Suarez thowing himself to the floor near enough every time. Football is the winner, well done West Brom. clap

Hope Suarez does a Mario and fecks off.

by **hampo17** Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:00 pm

Why are we a scummy side? Suarez has been booked less for diving than Bale, do you want to see Bale go elsewhere as well?

by Lumbering_Jack Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:00 pm

I'd watch out, I've been warned for calling Suarez a diver. Don't think it is allowed.

by Lumbering_Jack Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:00 pm

hampo171 wrote:Why are we a scummy side? Suarez has been booked less for diving than Bale, do you want to see Bale go elsewhere as well?

Yes, he is a cheating scum bag as well.

by JamesLincs Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:00 pm

excuse me but bale has probably dived twice, suarez is making a career out of it

by Lumbering_Jack Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:01 pm

JamesLincs wrote:excuse me but bale has probably dived twice, suarez is making a career out of it

Give over he does it every game.

by Guest Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:03 pm

Duty281 wrote:Great to see Liverpool beaten. Utter scummy side that has Suarez thowing himself to the floor near enough every time. Football is the winner, well done West Brom. Hope Suarez does a Mario and fecks off.

Whilst I can understand people's gripes with Suarez I think that the highlighted is an over the top reaction and rather provocative statement Duty.

Disappointed.

by Duty281 Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:03 pm

hampo171 wrote:Why are we a scummy side? Suarez has been booked less for diving than Bale, do you want to see Bale go elsewhere as well?

I'm not a big fan of Bale but Suarez seems to have perfected the art, probably does it in training. But it's not only the diving. Isn't Suarez a racist as well? Hasn't he bit an opponent before? Utter scumbag and shame on LFC for supporting him.

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