2012/13 Premier League discussion thread part 3

by Guest Sun 20 Jan 2013, 3:49 pm

First topic message reminder :

Let the talk, arguments, disagreements and bickering continue...

I really fancy a Spurs win today.

by Ent Wed 20 Feb 2013, 9:38 pm

Only 79 points but it was a different time, only 3 defeats and at the end of the day 3 trophies > 1.

Chelsea had a great side in 04/05 but you can't take away from the fact United in 99 and 08 won multiple trophies - managing a season in order to do this is a tall order.

by **Crimey** Thu 21 Feb 2013, 11:16 am

Chelsea weren't that far off a treble, they won the Premier League with a record points haul which is impressive, but also got to the semi-finals of the Champions League where they were knocked out by one of the best Champions League goals of all time courtesy of Luis Garcia and a excellent call by the referee/linesman. They also won the Carling Cup. There is a very fine line between that season and the 98/99 Treble season to be honest.

by The Special Juan Thu 21 Feb 2013, 6:17 pm

BAE is (IMO) rubbish. I've never rated him.

Anyways, I'm hoping Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle get through tonight, and Liverpool put Zenit's fans in their place.

by Ent Thu 21 Feb 2013, 7:19 pm

Crimey wrote:Chelsea weren't that far off a treble, they won the Premier League with a record points haul which is impressive, but also got to the semi-finals of the Champions League where they were knocked out by one of the best Champions League goals of all time courtesy of Luis Garcia and a excellent call by the referee/linesman. They also won the Carling Cup. There is a very fine line between that season and the 98/99 Treble season to be honest.

It's pretty far off to be fair, also the league cup doesn't compare to the fa cup due to the fact the final is in march!

by CFCNick Thu 21 Feb 2013, 7:35 pm

Ent wrote:
Crimey wrote:Chelsea weren't that far off a treble, they won the Premier League with a record points haul which is impressive, but also got to the semi-finals of the Champions League where they were knocked out by one of the best Champions League goals of all time courtesy of Luis Garcia and a excellent call by the referee/linesman. They also won the Carling Cup. There is a very fine line between that season and the 98/99 Treble season to be honest.

It's pretty far off to be fair, also the league cup doesn't compare to the fa cup due to the fact the final is in march!

How's it so far off? The only defeat in the league came in mid-October. To go through to May winning a knockout cup and reaching the last four of the Champions League whilst going unbeaten in the league has to be acknowledged as one of the best seasons by a Premier League champion.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Thu 21 Feb 2013, 8:11 pm

The Special Juan wrote:BAE is (IMO) rubbish. I've never rated him.

Anyways, I'm hoping Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle get through tonight, and Liverpool put Zenit's fans in their place.

I totally agree about BAE (Benoit Assou Ekkoto). I think Naughton is a better LB personally (and he is a natural RB)

by The Special Juan Thu 21 Feb 2013, 9:55 pm

Indeed. I reckon they need to invest in a good LB in the summer or buy another CB and play Vertonghen there.

Come on 'Pool!!

by Whistler Fri 22 Feb 2013, 6:57 pm

On a side note, Dembele has been an excellent capture. Was a bit of a surprise move when they took him from Fulham and he's excelled in his deeper role at Tottenham. Puts in a very good shift every game.

by Imperial Ghosty Fri 22 Feb 2013, 8:51 pm

The United team of 98-01 are the best team in premier league history, i'm not overly concerned by points totals, winning the titles is what matters most and we won the treble as well two subsequent league titles. Teams may have done better in the premier for a single season but 5 major trophies in 3 years is thus far untouched, the closest was the United team of 06-09.

by The Special Juan Fri 22 Feb 2013, 10:39 pm

I hope Utd crush QPR but I can see them winning. They'll still go down though.

by Whistler Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:08 pm

I think the current United team has what it takes to become one of those great Premier League sides. Will only get better.

by CFCNick Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:20 pm

The current United team are just the best if a bad bunch.

by westisbest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 8:50 am

The Villa surviavl bus pulls up to the Emirates later.

I'm actually quietly confident we will get the 3 points.

Well I've put the curse on that one, probably lose 4/5-0 Laugh

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 12:48 pm

Fulham vs Stoke to get the fire burning today Laugh

As for Norwich we welcome Everton today, gonna be a tough game, but I reckon we'll get a point out of it!

by JamesLincs Sat 23 Feb 2013, 12:55 pm

unlikely but id say any team can gets points off arsenal atm.

by CFCNick Sat 23 Feb 2013, 1:44 pm

I must have the magic touch. On twitter anyway.

Was slagging off Chelsea right before they scored on Thursday and was slagging off Berbatov just before he scored today. Cracking finish, how nobody was marking a man of his reputation on the edge of the box is beyond me.

by Ent Sat 23 Feb 2013, 1:49 pm

To be fair mj he'd been having a quiet game prior to that.

That's just him, is it worth 3/4 games of him doing nothing for those magc moments to crop up once or twice a season.

by westisbest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 2:26 pm

No Bent in squad.

Bennett in for Vlaar.

Think my 4/5-0 might not be far off.

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 2:34 pm

I think the game at the Emirates will be a goal fest. Something along the lines of 5-2.

by CFCNick Sat 23 Feb 2013, 2:39 pm

Ent wrote:To be fair mj he'd been having a quiet game prior to that.

That's just him, is it worth 3/4 games of him doing nothing for those magc moments to crop up once or twice a season.

He did the same thing at United. He's got the rep for doing things like that. No matter how quiet he's been in the game defenders should know he's capable of those moments.

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 2:44 pm

You do wonder how good Berbatov could have been had he been bothered to bother.

by Ent Sat 23 Feb 2013, 3:00 pm

Was a good move that dragged stokes defense out of position and they defended te initial cross with the men they had.

by JamesLincs Sat 23 Feb 2013, 3:04 pm

i think if berbatov 'bothered' he wouldnt be the same man, or necessarily be a better player or goal scorer. its just who he is

by JamesLincs Sat 23 Feb 2013, 3:10 pm

mark chapman does my head in! but whoever they replace him with is arguably worse!

by The Special Juan Sat 23 Feb 2013, 3:12 pm

Bring back Gabby!! Do you mean the Welsh man?

by JamesLincs Sat 23 Feb 2013, 3:15 pm

is he bald or balding? ive only seen him once or twice and dont remember him being terrible, could be him though haha. i would rather see gabby tbh, and i hate women!

not really, but they have no place in football.. no im joking. but they have no place in mens football!

by The Special Juan Sat 23 Feb 2013, 3:20 pm

Yes, Jason Mohammad (spelling?), the bald Welsh guy. I think it's funny how a lot of people really don't like Gabby, especially when it comes to football.

by JamesLincs Sat 23 Feb 2013, 3:23 pm

yeah hes alright i think. mark chapman for me, is bbc's adrian chiles

by The Special Juan Sat 23 Feb 2013, 3:40 pm

Bayern are currently 3-0 up on 10 man Bremen after 50 minutes. There's no CL hangover from them then.

Rafael Cool

by Fernando Sat 23 Feb 2013, 3:45 pm

RVP off injured....Seemingly fine apparently precautionary

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 3:52 pm

I don't mind Chappers myself but I am really warming to Garth. Real character.

by Dave. Sat 23 Feb 2013, 3:53 pm

How Mark Chapman is replacing Our Colin, I'll never know.

by JamesLincs Sat 23 Feb 2013, 4:27 pm

comon villa!!

by JamesLincs Sat 23 Feb 2013, 4:43 pm

i mean, comon norwich!

by The Special Juan Sat 23 Feb 2013, 4:57 pm

What did you do!!?

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 5:12 pm

I bet Olly is buzzing his cojones off after that win!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 5:23 pm

I F*CKING LOVE GRANT HOLT!!!!!

by The Special Juan Sat 23 Feb 2013, 7:55 pm

It's not really been a vintage season so far for the "Big 3" leagues...

(As it stands)

Man Utd, 15 points ahead of 2nd placed Man City
Bayern Munich, 18 points ahead of 2nd placed Borussia Dortmund
Barcelona, 12 points ahead of 2nd placed Atletico Madrid

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:01 pm

It's not actually surprised me at all at what's happened. Bayern, United & Barcelona all have the same thing in common, when they lose a title they make sure they win it back straight away and restore order. The players that they have hold that winning mentality, drive and determination to succeed year in year out and when they dont win.......it hurts them. Mentally they are supreme and they hold that valuable experience which many clubs don't have. The 2012 Champions have squads that had never won major league titles before in Manchester City & Dortmund and even Madrid had not won a title since 07/08. Also Madrid have just blown up through dressing room unrest with Mourinho to add to their problems. Not surprised with this season's events.

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:04 pm

A European super league is in order...

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:11 pm

So then people who do you think are going down after today?

I think QPR barring a miracle are gone, Reading and Wigan to join them imo. Villa vs Wigan final day of the season at the DW is looking to be a decider and a heck of a game!!!

Huge win for us today and a huge loss for Everton. We should be safe now (barring a massive drop in form) and Everton seem to have reversed there usual end of season form with there usual start of season form!

by Dave. Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:16 pm

Olly wrote:So then people who do you think are going down after today?

I think QPR barring a miracle are gone, Reading and Wigan to join them imo. Villa vs Wigan final day of the season at the DW is looking to be a decider and a heck of a game!!!

Huge win for us today and a huge loss for Everton. We should be safe now (barring a massive drop in form) and Everton seem to have reversed there usual end of season form with there usual start of season form!

That game has "panning to fan bawling their eyes out" written all over it.

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:18 pm

I have this inkling that Reading will put QPR out of their misery on April 28th. I think it's going to be 3 from QPR, Reading, Wigan, Southampton and Villa though Sunderland are not out of the mire either.

Newcastle have way too much quality to go down, don't they?..

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:19 pm

Dave. wrote:
Olly wrote:So then people who do you think are going down after today?

I think QPR barring a miracle are gone, Reading and Wigan to join them imo. Villa vs Wigan final day of the season at the DW is looking to be a decider and a heck of a game!!!

Huge win for us today and a huge loss for Everton. We should be safe now (barring a massive drop in form) and Everton seem to have reversed there usual end of season form with there usual start of season form!

That game has "panning to fan bawling their eyes out" written all over it.

Shades of Sheff Utd v Wigan in 07.

by Dave. Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:21 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Dave. wrote:
Olly wrote:So then people who do you think are going down after today?

I think QPR barring a miracle are gone, Reading and Wigan to join them imo. Villa vs Wigan final day of the season at the DW is looking to be a decider and a heck of a game!!!

Huge win for us today and a huge loss for Everton. We should be safe now (barring a massive drop in form) and Everton seem to have reversed there usual end of season form with there usual start of season form!

That game has "panning to fan bawling their eyes out" written all over it.

Shades of Sheff Utd v Wigan in 07.

I know I shouldn't but I find something funny about that happening.

Not the actual players crying though. In fact, if i see any player crying after a bad loss, I'm glad they're showing they care. A la Chabal in the 2007 RWC.

by The Special Juan Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:22 pm

FreekShow wrote:I have this inkling that Reading will put QPR out of their misery on April 28th. I think it's going to be 3 from QPR, Reading, Wigan, Southampton and Villa though Sunderland are not out of the mire either.

Newcastle have way too much quality to go down, don't they?..

No such thing IMO. You can't be too good to go down, but you can be too bad to stay up. Anyway, I think they're safe and the final two relegation spots are between Reading, Villa and Wigan.

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:34 pm

Dave. wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Dave. wrote:
Olly wrote:So then people who do you think are going down after today?

I think QPR barring a miracle are gone, Reading and Wigan to join them imo. Villa vs Wigan final day of the season at the DW is looking to be a decider and a heck of a game!!!

Huge win for us today and a huge loss for Everton. We should be safe now (barring a massive drop in form) and Everton seem to have reversed there usual end of season form with there usual start of season form!

That game has "panning to fan bawling their eyes out" written all over it.

Shades of Sheff Utd v Wigan in 07.

I know I shouldn't but I find something funny about that happening.

Not the actual players crying though. In fact, if i see any player crying after a bad loss, I'm glad they're showing they care. A la Chabal in the 2007 RWC.

I've only ever cried once after a football match. 1989 when Arsenal did us 2-0 to take the title. It was a Friday night and my olds went out for the night leaving me with my Man Utd loving cousin. My god did she rub it in, the byatch! The scars never go away, ever!

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:39 pm

I cried when we were relegated to League 1 at Charlton. Sad sad day.

Utd got the title sewn up. QPR would be down already if it wasnt for Cesar

by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:41 pm

Olly wrote:I cried when we were relegated to League 1 at Charlton. Sad sad day.

Utd got the title sewn up. QPR would be down already if it wasnt for Cesar

I bet you've cried tears of joy ever since though Olly?

by Dave. Sat 23 Feb 2013, 10:42 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Dave. wrote:
FreekShow wrote:
Dave. wrote:
Olly wrote:So then people who do you think are going down after today?

I think QPR barring a miracle are gone, Reading and Wigan to join them imo. Villa vs Wigan final day of the season at the DW is looking to be a decider and a heck of a game!!!

Huge win for us today and a huge loss for Everton. We should be safe now (barring a massive drop in form) and Everton seem to have reversed there usual end of season form with there usual start of season form!

That game has "panning to fan bawling their eyes out" written all over it.

Shades of Sheff Utd v Wigan in 07.

I know I shouldn't but I find something funny about that happening.

Not the actual players crying though. In fact, if i see any player crying after a bad loss, I'm glad they're showing they care. A la Chabal in the 2007 RWC.

I've only ever cried once after a football match. 1989 when Arsenal did us 2-0 to take the title. It was a Friday night and my olds went out for the night leaving me with my Man Utd loving cousin. My god did she rub it in, the byatch! The scars never go away, ever!

To be fair she probably thought the chance to wind you up was "up for grabs now!"

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