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Here is some more guys about how he will never fight a K Bro, how Suliaman can f**k off and that the WBC are a joke etc etc.

Just more rambled crap really from a very annoying and limited c**k.

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/news/2013/02/06/tyson-fury-i-wont-ever-fight-a-klitschko.html

azania wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:

azania wrote:

mobilemaster8 wrote:Haha what?

Is this serious? Fury has a chin like Khan. I'm yet to see price troubled in the pro game at all.

That's because he's fought useless bums who didn't have a clue how to throw a punch much less have an idea how to direct one.

You're still yet to explain as to why Pajkic is a better win than Sexton, considering Sexton beat Rogan when he was still an active boxer twice.

What is there to explain? Is that the only fight Fury has had since vacating the Brit belt?

Well a completely inactive Rogan was Fury going on to bigger and better things right? Sexton beat him twice when Rogan was mildly respectable, how is the win over Sexton any less than that surely it should be ranked even higher, considering that Price put in a punch perfect performance on Sexton too? Still foughg nobodies or is that chasm between the two's opposition shrinking?

And like I said AZ, until it happens, we can not judge.

azania wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:It of course takes away everything but the intent to fight something of a test.

Ridiculous argument. They fought 12 solid rounds and Fury deservedly won. Great show.

No, its which version of Chisora showed up and it was one that clearly hadn't trained.

He came out Southpaw. Learnng new styles and tricks. Rogan was robbed in one of those fights. Sexton had already lost twice to Chisora and is rubbish. Punch perfect against a semi mobile heavy bag is not a sign of freatness otherwise we would be lauding Pele Reid as a great but wasted talent.

He would beat whatever version of Chisora that exists.

No he wouldn't

Well he's beaten him once already. A clear and decisive win. No arguments. Great performance. Wiped the floor of an undefeated Chisora who had beaten Price's best opponent.............twice.

And who is Price's next opponent? Some 41 year old past it fighter who fought a string of no names and handily beaten by K2 twice. What a joke.

Well, I think I've reached Boxthis Step 6: Just eventually get bored of screaming sense at Az and go do something else.

AlexHuckerby wrote:Well, I think I've reached Boxthis Step 6: Just eventually get bored of screaming sense at Az and go do something else.

So sense is taking the credit away from a guy's win, yet giving massive credit to another guy for fighting stiffs and bums? That is just plain and simply wrong. It just shows massive bias and partisanship. I see Sexton being hyped up as a great win for Price yet an asterix is placed over Fury's win over Chisora and Johnson. I see that 41 year old has been being hyped up as a great fight for Price now. That is your idea of sense Alex?

Nobody has said great fight, just a good benchmark who I think is pretty level with Johnson ability wise.

Thats the point neither of them has a good name on their ledger yet. Merely comparable. Neither has shown signs that they are going to dominate the heavyweight scene. They have done what has been asked of them. Neither has shown signs that they have the best chin in the world. Price has so far avoided having to show in the professional ranks how his chin stands up whereas fury has been more open but has got himself off the canvas to show he has heart. So again can be fairly comparable.

You ague that everyone is a fury hater but show nothing but contempt to price. Yes some have been silly with their dislike of fury and some verging on bigotry. But your loathing have price has been equally unpleasant.

I don really knw how anyone has enough energy to hate someone they dont know. And that goes fpr many on the boards. Lets get back to debating rather than hating

Really don’t see what all the fuss is over their relative levels of opposition, neither has exactly tested themselves in a white hot cauldron of opposition thus far. Fury probably does have the slight edge in terms of opposition but it is hardly a country mile above that which Price has faced to allow himself to be the proverbial streets ahead of him. Chisora probably does represent a better win than anything Price has on his ledger but personally am not overly convinced Dereck is all that and if you’re going to rave over the Chisora loss you also have to add the caveat that Tyson can count himself very lucky not to have a loss to McDermott on his record.

Price has only had 15 fights and has fought much the same level as Fury who has fought 20. Throw in comparison someone like Wilder in the mix and neither are doing too badly with regard to opposition.

That's all well and good two_tone but you can't say good things about both. It's one or the other I'm afraid.

azania wrote:He would beat whatever version of Chisora that exists.

Yet only several months ago you said:

"Yes I believe that were Chisora in shape he would have beat Fury"

manos de piedra wrote:

azania wrote:He would beat whatever version of Chisora that exists.

Yet only several months ago you said:

"Yes I believe that were Chisora in shape he would have beat Fury"

That was then and this was now and he needed to spin it round so he could be contrary on this thread.

Il Gialloblu wrote:That's all well and good two_tone but you can't say good things about both. It's one or the other I'm afraid.

Why not? They are both reasonable prospects at this stage. This isn't a City or United argument here. Am I annoyed at Fury calling out Price and then ducking him when there is a reasonable return for him. Yes. Do I believe Fury and Price are about where they need to be at this stage of his career? Again, yes. Not necessarily exclusive.

bhb001 wrote:

Il Gialloblu wrote:That's all well and good two_tone but you can't say good things about both. It's one or the other I'm afraid.

Why not? They are both reasonable prospects at this stage. This isn't a City or United argument here. Am I annoyed at Fury calling out Price and then ducking him when there is a reasonable return for him. Yes. Do I believe Fury and Price are about where they need to be at this stage of his career? Again, yes. Not necessarily exclusive.

I don't know why not. Probably the same reason you couldn't like both Floyd and Manny.

mobilemaster8 wrote:Nobody has said great fight

Classic use of Az step 2(b) there....

Il Gialloblu wrote:

bhb001 wrote:

Il Gialloblu wrote:That's all well and good two_tone but you can't say good things about both. It's one or the other I'm afraid.

Why not? They are both reasonable prospects at this stage. This isn't a City or United argument here. Am I annoyed at Fury calling out Price and then ducking him when there is a reasonable return for him. Yes. Do I believe Fury and Price are about where they need to be at this stage of his career? Again, yes. Not necessarily exclusive.

I don't know why not. Probably the same reason you couldn't like both Floyd and Manny.

I appreciate both as boxers and what they have both achieved. So yes I can like them both, while believing that Floyd would win if they stepped in a ring together

bhb001 wrote:

Il Gialloblu wrote:

bhb001 wrote:

Il Gialloblu wrote:That's all well and good two_tone but you can't say good things about both. It's one or the other I'm afraid.

Why not? They are both reasonable prospects at this stage. This isn't a City or United argument here. Am I annoyed at Fury calling out Price and then ducking him when there is a reasonable return for him. Yes. Do I believe Fury and Price are about where they need to be at this stage of his career? Again, yes. Not necessarily exclusive.

I don't know why not. Probably the same reason you couldn't like both Floyd and Manny.

I appreciate both as boxers and what they have both achieved. So yes I can like them both, while believing that Floyd would win if they stepped in a ring together

I think Il Gialloblu was joking.

Az, the amusing thing about what you're saying is you're not taking into account the fact that if you're talking about comparable fights, Price has had 5 fights less than Fury. Let's see how well he's done with the same amount as Tyson - my guess is he'll have a couple more "names" on his record.

two_tone wrote:

bhb001 wrote:

Il Gialloblu wrote:

bhb001 wrote:

Il Gialloblu wrote:That's all well and good two_tone but you can't say good things about both. It's one or the other I'm afraid.

Why not? They are both reasonable prospects at this stage. This isn't a City or United argument here. Am I annoyed at Fury calling out Price and then ducking him when there is a reasonable return for him. Yes. Do I believe Fury and Price are about where they need to be at this stage of his career? Again, yes. Not necessarily exclusive.

I don't know why not. Probably the same reason you couldn't like both Floyd and Manny.

I appreciate both as boxers and what they have both achieved. So yes I can like them both, while believing that Floyd would win if they stepped in a ring together

I think Il Gialloblu was joking.

Far too subtle for me!