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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu Feb 07, 2013 12:18 pm

First topic message reminder :

Here is some more guys about how he will never fight a K Bro, how Suliaman can f**k off and that the WBC are a joke etc etc.

Just more rambled crap really from a very annoying and limited c**k.

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/news/2013/02/06/tyson-fury-i-wont-ever-fight-a-klitschko.html

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:06 pm

spencerclarke wrote:To be fair he did what he had to against johnson but johson was not interested. Lets not make it out as a master class. He has made decent progress and now is in more shape but it should have been like that from day one. If price takes care of thompson comfortably then he will be about on par with fury as neither have been uprooting trees.

I dont really buy that price is massively over rated either. People are merely saying he has potential but needs testing. Fair assumption.

I find rhe contrasting personalities of the two intruiging. I would love it if fury would do the podcast. Most of his comments are exaggerated I feel.

On a side can everyone chill out with discussions of racism and being overly steroeotypical. The threads are moving away from boxing tonight

Is that the latest excuse for any Fury fight? The opponent was not interested. Chisora came in fat etc. All to take the sheen off great wins against highly rated and ranked opponents.

Price has little to no chin.

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:08 pm

Az they are decent wins against average opponents, nothing more nothing less.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:08 pm

Fury has been down against a soft puncher but yet Price has no chin.

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:13 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:Fury has been down against a soft puncher but yet Price has no chin.

And Fury decked Price. Lets not fotget Price break dancing at the Olympics.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:14 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Az they are decent wins against average opponents, nothing more nothing less.

If you think Chisora is average why are you mentioning his name as a possible fight for Wlad?

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:15 pm

victorgarco wrote:
Imperial Ghosty wrote:Az they are decent wins against average opponents, nothing more nothing less.

If you think Chisora is average why are you mentioning his name as a possible fight for Wlad?

Because he is a better fighter than Fres.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:18 pm

azania wrote:
victorgarco wrote:
Imperial Ghosty wrote:Az they are decent wins against average opponents, nothing more nothing less.

If you think Chisora is average why are you mentioning his name as a possible fight for Wlad?

Because he is a better fighter than Fres.

So?

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:19 pm

So is a better option.

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:19 pm

That's why he was mentioning him. Are you old enough to be on a computer?

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:21 pm

victorgarco wrote:
azania wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:Who has fury fought AZ that ranks so much higher then price opponents?? Was it the taxi driver Rogan?? Didn't sexton stop him?

Maybe it was Johnson who threw no punches? The same guy who Hennessy and Fury said was the number 1 heavyweight in America?!

Or maybe it was his fluke win over a fat John McDermott? We all know he lost. He even looked pathetic in the rematch.

He got dropped by some random canadian ive never heard of as well. Prankik or some crap. Someone else Hennessy and fury made out to be "genuine" world class?!

At least price has dominated his opponents. Common denominator being McDermott who was spanked by price. Sexton too.....who incidentally beat Rogan up more than fury.

Audley is pants so no comment there.

Thompson is up next who is better than fury's fighters combined.

Fury will get knocked out by price hence the blatant excuses and/or ducking!

Some gypsy. Just steals words and phrases and can't put actions behind them. All mouth no balls and no skill.

Vhisora and Johnson are the obvious standouts. Compare them to Skelton and Audley. I suppose Price will look devestating when and if he steps between the ropes and sees Flintoff on the other side.

Thompson better than Fury's opponents combined. Have some red bull to get over the booze tyou've been drinking.

Fury has fought the better opponents. And Thompson is well past it. Not to mention that he is 41. Price's last 3 opponents have been 41, 45, 41.


Fury's opponents age average is higher than price so it does not matter.

What matters is that they obviously split opinions and generate interest.

But most important is that price is willing to fight, fury is saying he is willing to fight in an unnecessary manner, but then fury ends up not taking it.

It was only earlier he stated he would never fight the k bros!!

So who will he fight?!

Nobody generates more interest fight wise at the moment (domestic) than Fury vs Price.

Would be a sell out and I'd go.

Neither have fought world class operators, you could argue for both who is better than who.

Rogan and johnson are as good as McDermott and bloody sexton.

Neither are proven and that's a fact.

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Post by spencerclarke Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:24 pm

Az did you think johnson looked interested? I thought he was a disgrace that night. He came for his pay check only. As I stated fury did what he had to do. In no way did I slate his performance.

Price has question marks they both do. But until someone lands something on him he cant be ruled out. Same as as long as fury continues to show the heart it took to lift himself off the floor he cant either.

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:25 pm

Why wasn't he (Price) so willing to fight when he was offered it?

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:26 pm

spencerclarke wrote:Az did you think johnson looked interested? I thought he was a disgrace that night. He came for his pay check only. As I stated fury did what he had to do. In no way did I slate his performance.

Price has question marks they both do. But until someone lands something on him he cant be ruled out. Same as as long as fury continues to show the heart it took to lift himself off the floor he cant either.

He was outboxed. Everything he tried, Fury had an answer to. Why not give credit to Fury?

Do you thing any of Price's opponents looked interested or ambitious?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:29 pm

Az, I'm not disagreeing that Price has question marks on his chin as a pro, but Fury has been down against a soft punching no name, there no alarm bells going off in terms of how potentially poor Furys chin is?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:30 pm

azania wrote:
spencerclarke wrote:Az did you think johnson looked interested? I thought he was a disgrace that night. He came for his pay check only. As I stated fury did what he had to do. In no way did I slate his performance.

Price has question marks they both do. But until someone lands something on him he cant be ruled out. Same as as long as fury continues to show the heart it took to lift himself off the floor he cant either.

He was outboxed. Everything he tried, Fury had an answer to. Why not give credit to Fury?

Do you thing any of Price's opponents looked interested or ambitious?

The main problem was that Johnson didn't try anything.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:30 pm

azania wrote:Why wasn't he (Price) so willing to fight when he was offered it?

What? When? Source?

Everything I see and hear online and tv point to the biggest ducker since pacquiao and arum.

Couldn't be more obvious.

We know your a fan AZ and I'm not knocking it.

We can have an even bigger debate when fury is sparked cold on a frosty night in Liverpool/London/Ireland.


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Post by spencerclarke Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:37 pm

By no means was mcdermott in any shape or have any interest either for the price fight. He too was a disgrace that night.

As I have said twice already fury did what he had to on the night to win, fair play. But that is all. Im not knocking him but neither am I going to laud him as the next coming of heavyweight boxing.

Jeez it would be a sight easier if someone would just get them in a ring together so that we can stop going round I circle's over this!

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:38 pm

Pacquiao is no ducker, don't tar him with the same brush as Arum, a ducker doesn't rematch Marquez 3 times.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:40 pm

victorgarco wrote:
azania wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:Who has fury fought AZ that ranks so much higher then price opponents?? Was it the taxi driver Rogan?? Didn't sexton stop him?

Maybe it was Johnson who threw no punches? The same guy who Hennessy and Fury said was the number 1 heavyweight in America?!

Or maybe it was his fluke win over a fat John McDermott? We all know he lost. He even looked pathetic in the rematch.

He got dropped by some random canadian ive never heard of as well. Prankik or some crap. Someone else Hennessy and fury made out to be "genuine" world class?!

At least price has dominated his opponents. Common denominator being McDermott who was spanked by price. Sexton too.....who incidentally beat Rogan up more than fury.

Audley is pants so no comment there.

Thompson is up next who is better than fury's fighters combined.

Fury will get knocked out by price hence the blatant excuses and/or ducking!

Some gypsy. Just steals words and phrases and can't put actions behind them. All mouth no balls and no skill.

Vhisora and Johnson are the obvious standouts. Compare them to Skelton and Audley. I suppose Price will look devestating when and if he steps between the ropes and sees Flintoff on the other side.

Thompson better than Fury's opponents combined. Have some red bull to get over the booze tyou've been drinking.

Fury has fought the better opponents. And Thompson is well past it. Not to mention that he is 41. Price's last 3 opponents have been 41, 45, 41.


Mathematics will not serve you well in this debate young padawan...

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:43 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:
azania wrote:
spencerclarke wrote:Az did you think johnson looked interested? I thought he was a disgrace that night. He came for his pay check only. As I stated fury did what he had to do. In no way did I slate his performance.

Price has question marks they both do. But until someone lands something on him he cant be ruled out. Same as as long as fury continues to show the heart it took to lift himself off the floor he cant either.

He was outboxed. Everything he tried, Fury had an answer to. Why not give credit to Fury?

Do you thing any of Price's opponents looked interested or ambitious?

The main problem was that Johnson didn't try anything.

Perhaps Fury didn't allow him to do anything. Had it ben Price handing Johnson his ass like Fury did, many here would have been singing his praises. But because its Fury the sheen has to be taken off.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:44 pm

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Pacquiao is no ducker, don't tar him with the same brush as Arum, a ducker doesn't rematch Marquez 3 times.

Was that sarcasm?

He rightfully should have had rematches Marquez after the controversy.

It's a duck when you make excuses and deny all.

Saying that, I hate bob arum and cant wait for him to go.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:44 pm

azania wrote:Why wasn't he (Price) so willing to fight when he was offered it?

He was willing. Willing to exercise his right as mandatory challenger to go to purse bids. Fury walked away, not Price. But hey, why bother with facts when BS and hyperbole make a more favourable story....

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:44 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:Az, I'm not disagreeing that Price has question marks on his chin as a pro, but Fury has been down against a soft punching no name, there no alarm bells going off in terms of how potentially poor Furys chin is?

Do you see me arguing that point? Fury is the more exciting fighter who goes in there and mixes it. Of course he will take a shot. He should use his reach more effectively and stink the joint out like K2.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:45 pm

No, no pretty clear he had opportunities but didn't attempt anything.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:46 pm

azania wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:
azania wrote:
spencerclarke wrote:Az did you think johnson looked interested? I thought he was a disgrace that night. He came for his pay check only. As I stated fury did what he had to do. In no way did I slate his performance.

Price has question marks they both do. But until someone lands something on him he cant be ruled out. Same as as long as fury continues to show the heart it took to lift himself off the floor he cant either.

He was outboxed. Everything he tried, Fury had an answer to. Why not give credit to Fury?

Do you thing any of Price's opponents looked interested or ambitious?

The main problem was that Johnson didn't try anything.

Perhaps Fury didn't allow him to do anything. Had it ben Price handing Johnson his ass like Fury did, many here would have been singing his praises. But because its Fury the sheen has to be taken off.

But AZ, I'm confident that price would look a hell of a lot better against Johnson.

He certainly wouldn't do an Ali dance in the mid rounds whilst being rightfully booed by his own fans for what was the worst fight I have ever laid my eyes on.


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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:46 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:
azania wrote:Why wasn't he (Price) so willing to fight when he was offered it?

What? When? Source?

Everything I see and hear online and tv point to the biggest ducker since pacquiao and arum.

Couldn't be more obvious.

We know your a fan AZ and I'm not knocking it.

We can have an even bigger debate when fury is sparked cold on a frosty night in Liverpool/London/Ireland.


So you are unaware that Team Fury offered Team Price a fair wedge and Price ran faster than horses do at Aintree. I reckon he hurdled a few fences to avoid the fight.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:47 pm

azania wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:Az, I'm not disagreeing that Price has question marks on his chin as a pro, but Fury has been down against a soft punching no name, there no alarm bells going off in terms of how potentially poor Furys chin is?

Do you see me arguing that point? Fury is the more exciting fighter who goes in there and mixes it. Of course he will take a shot. He should use his reach more effectively and stink the joint out like K2.

So then how can you continously say that Price will go nowhere because he has a bad chin but say that Fury will, when he also has a bad chin and as you say leaves it exposed?


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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:48 pm

Well if he did I'll wind my neck in a little. But to walk away from £1 million after having slagged off almost everyone associated to price, live on air, Is worse.


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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:48 pm

spencerclarke wrote:By no means was mcdermott in any shape or have any interest either for the price fight. He too was a disgrace that night.

As I have said twice already fury did what he had to on the night to win, fair play. But that is all. Im not knocking him but neither am I going to laud him as the next coming of heavyweight boxing.

Jeez it would be a sight easier if someone would just get them in a ring together so that we can stop going round I circle's over this!

You are knocking by taking away his credit and blaming the other guy for not being interested. He cps flack for Chisora coming in heavy. Was he to know what weight Chis would come in at when the fight was signed?

Now after a string of defeats and a bad loss against Haye, Price is talking about fighting Chisora. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Fury fight an undefeated Chisora?

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:49 pm

Sorry but a ducker doesn't take on a guy 4 times who clearly gives him severe trouble, a ducker would have steered well clear.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:50 pm

azania wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:
azania wrote:Why wasn't he (Price) so willing to fight when he was offered it?

What? When? Source?

Everything I see and hear online and tv point to the biggest ducker since pacquiao and arum.

Couldn't be more obvious.

We know your a fan AZ and I'm not knocking it.

We can have an even bigger debate when fury is sparked cold on a frosty night in Liverpool/London/Ireland.


So you are unaware that Team Fury offered Team Price a fair wedge and Price ran faster than horses do at Aintree. I reckon he hurdled a few fences to avoid the fight.

A fair wedge which is 10% of what Fury's just run from?? Mmmmmmm....... sure there's a port kettle black in there somewhere....

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:50 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
azania wrote:Why wasn't he (Price) so willing to fight when he was offered it?

He was willing. Willing to exercise his right as mandatory challenger to go to purse bids. Fury walked away, not Price. But hey, why bother with facts when BS and hyperbole make a more favourable story....

Fury moved on and fought other guys and beat Johnson who was hughly ranked. Plus there is the issue of TV rights. I don't think Sky (before they dumped him) were willing to allow the fight to bo shown on C5 where a massive audience would have watched it.

But face facts, Price ran like Red Rum.

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:51 pm

AlexHuckerby wrote:No, no pretty clear he had opportunities but didn't attempt anything.

That's because he was mindful of what was coming back.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:52 pm

Don't deal with facts Az, you know they don't favour you well....

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Post by spencerclarke Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:52 pm

So you think johnson performed herocially and fury put in a master class in the fight of the year. Ok fair play each to their ownopinion

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:52 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:
azania wrote:
AlexHuckerby wrote:
azania wrote:
spencerclarke wrote:Az did you think johnson looked interested? I thought he was a disgrace that night. He came for his pay check only. As I stated fury did what he had to do. In no way did I slate his performance.

Price has question marks they both do. But until someone lands something on him he cant be ruled out. Same as as long as fury continues to show the heart it took to lift himself off the floor he cant either.

He was outboxed. Everything he tried, Fury had an answer to. Why not give credit to Fury?

Do you thing any of Price's opponents looked interested or ambitious?

The main problem was that Johnson didn't try anything.

Perhaps Fury didn't allow him to do anything. Had it ben Price handing Johnson his ass like Fury did, many here would have been singing his praises. But because its Fury the sheen has to be taken off.

But AZ, I'm confident that price would look a hell of a lot better against Johnson.

He certainly wouldn't do an Ali dance in the mid rounds whilst being rightfully booed by his own fans for what was the worst fight I have ever laid my eyes on.


I'm pretty confident Johnson would have KO'd Chinny Price. Of course Price wouldn't do an Ali shuffle. He doesn't have the footwork to do something as simple as that. He fights like Bruno on downers.

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:54 pm

spencerclarke wrote:So you think johnson performed herocially and fury put in a master class in the fight of the year. Ok fair play each to their ownopinion

Heroically? Your words or mine? Fight of the year? Again, utter tosh. Your words, not mine. Your emphasis to score cheap points.

Fury out boxed him comprehensively. A shut out I believe. Johnson couldn't do anything.

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:55 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
azania wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:
azania wrote:Why wasn't he (Price) so willing to fight when he was offered it?

What? When? Source?

Everything I see and hear online and tv point to the biggest ducker since pacquiao and arum.

Couldn't be more obvious.

We know your a fan AZ and I'm not knocking it.

We can have an even bigger debate when fury is sparked cold on a frosty night in Liverpool/London/Ireland.


So you are unaware that Team Fury offered Team Price a fair wedge and Price ran faster than horses do at Aintree. I reckon he hurdled a few fences to avoid the fight.

A fair wedge which is 10% of what Fury's just run from?? Mmmmmmm....... sure there's a port kettle black in there somewhere....

Hang on mate. Didn't Price sprint from the offer? Claiming some sort of rubbish along the way?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:56 pm

azania wrote:
spencerclarke wrote:By no means was mcdermott in any shape or have any interest either for the price fight. He too was a disgrace that night.

As I have said twice already fury did what he had to on the night to win, fair play. But that is all. Im not knocking him but neither am I going to laud him as the next coming of heavyweight boxing.

Jeez it would be a sight easier if someone would just get them in a ring together so that we can stop going round I circle's over this!

You are knocking by taking away his credit and blaming the other guy for not being interested. He cps flack for Chisora coming in heavy. Was he to know what weight Chis would come in at when the fight was signed?

Now after a string of defeats and a bad loss against Haye, Price is talking about fighting Chisora. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Fury fight an undefeated Chisora?

Fact is he was out of shape, Fury wasn't to know, but it takes a lot of shine off considering Chisora gave him lots of problems early and rocked him twice while out of shape and was winning easily until he gassed after 3, usually he's still strong after 12 going at a good pace as he was against VK, its clear just how out of shape Chisora was in that fight. Chisora has improved massively since then also, defeats or not, he has been in with world class and Euro level fighters since then and has done a respectable job in all fights.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:56 pm

Haha what?

Is this serious? Fury has a chin like Khan. I'm yet to see price troubled in the pro game at all.

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Post by spencerclarke Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:58 pm

Az you see i never mentioned chisora either but it didn't stop you writing such rubbish. :-)

Anyway I have work in the morning so must go.

Night gents

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Post by azania Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:59 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Haha what?

Is this serious? Fury has a chin like Khan. I'm yet to see price troubled in the pro game at all.

That's because he's fought useless bums who didn't have a clue how to throw a punch much less have an idea how to direct one.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:00 am

Night spence. I've work also people, along with retrieving my broken car from a rip off garage.

Can't wait to continue this tomorrow and see more of fury's number one fans comments....ie AZ.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:01 am

azania wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:Haha what?

Is this serious? Fury has a chin like Khan. I'm yet to see price troubled in the pro game at all.

That's because he's fought useless bums who didn't have a clue how to throw a punch much less have an idea how to direct one.

You're still yet to explain as to why Pajkic is a better win than Sexton, considering Sexton beat Rogan when he was still an active boxer twice.

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Post by azania Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:01 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:
azania wrote:
spencerclarke wrote:By no means was mcdermott in any shape or have any interest either for the price fight. He too was a disgrace that night.

As I have said twice already fury did what he had to on the night to win, fair play. But that is all. Im not knocking him but neither am I going to laud him as the next coming of heavyweight boxing.

Jeez it would be a sight easier if someone would just get them in a ring together so that we can stop going round I circle's over this!

You are knocking by taking away his credit and blaming the other guy for not being interested. He cps flack for Chisora coming in heavy. Was he to know what weight Chis would come in at when the fight was signed?

Now after a string of defeats and a bad loss against Haye, Price is talking about fighting Chisora. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Fury fight an undefeated Chisora?

Fact is he was out of shape, Fury wasn't to know, but it takes a lot of shine off considering Chisora gave him lots of problems early and rocked him twice while out of shape and was winning easily until he gassed after 3, usually he's still strong after 12 going at a good pace as he was against VK, its clear just how out of shape Chisora was in that fight. Chisora has improved massively since then also, defeats or not, he has been in with world class and Euro level fighters since then and has done a respectable job in all fights.

That isn't the point. How was Fury to know what weight Chis would come in at when he signed for the fight? Now he is on a terrific losing streak, Price wants to fight him.

It takes nothing away from Fury. He won. No excuses. Chis has lost loads since then. Undeniable fact. Now he is being talked about as a Price opponent, the hype of Chis has started. You guys remind me of D4 defending Mosely as a Pac opponent.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:02 am

azania wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:Haha what?

Is this serious? Fury has a chin like Khan. I'm yet to see price troubled in the pro game at all.

That's because he's fought useless bums who didn't have a clue how to throw a punch much less have an idea how to direct one.

A bit like prajik then? The useless barman who floored him? Keep going.....

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Post by azania Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:02 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:
azania wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:Haha what?

Is this serious? Fury has a chin like Khan. I'm yet to see price troubled in the pro game at all.

That's because he's fought useless bums who didn't have a clue how to throw a punch much less have an idea how to direct one.

You're still yet to explain as to why Pajkic is a better win than Sexton, considering Sexton beat Rogan when he was still an active boxer twice.

What is there to explain? Is that the only fight Fury has had since vacating the Brit belt?

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Post by AlexHuckerby Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:03 am

It of course takes away everything but the intent to fight something of a test.

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Post by azania Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:04 am

mobilemaster8 wrote:
azania wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:Haha what?

Is this serious? Fury has a chin like Khan. I'm yet to see price troubled in the pro game at all.

That's because he's fought useless bums who didn't have a clue how to throw a punch much less have an idea how to direct one.

A bit like prajik then? The useless barman who floored him? Keep going.....

And Ward has been decked by a useless no name also. The millisecond Price gets a stern look at his chin he will collapse like a house of cards.

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Post by azania Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:05 am

AlexHuckerby wrote:It of course takes away everything but the intent to fight something of a test.

Ridiculous argument. They fought 12 solid rounds and Fury deservedly won. Great show.

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