Euro Division Homepage XLIX

by **Afro** Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:14 pm

First topic message reminder :

606V2 EURODivision

Announcements

Season 2 begins this week with tactics for the first game due by 11.59 on Friday 15th February

PLEASE NOTE - this season you will receive a 1 point deduction if you do not submit tactics (as well as a default loss) and a 1 point deduction if you do not vote. If you know in advance you are unable to do either, then you must state so on the Holidays/Days Off page, to avoid the penalties.

Fixtures for season 2 are up for both leagues

Teams in the Premier League, PM tactics to Sodhat and GSC, send votes to Afro and Trebs
Teams in the Championship, PM tactics to Afro and Trebs, send votes to Sodhat

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The Qatar Foundation Premier League

Deportivo la Chorizo - Gregers

Tactics

Under Brescia FC - Afro

Injuries

Bratwurst Mannschaft - Treble

Lawyers

Dos Cervezas por favor - Marky

Fixtures/Results

No Respek FC - Azzy

Table

Pass the Deutschie - Viva

Top Scorers

The Hero Championship

Atalanta Falcons - Sodhat

Tactics

FC Murder On Zidane's Floor - Zinedine

Injuries

FC ElphickForJustice - Cherries

Lawyers

Spanish Bank FC - GSC

Fixtures/Results

Moleicester City - Fernando

Table

VFL BASSENDER - CF

Top Scorers

by sodhat Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:31 pm

I wish there was a grenade smiley

I could have totally used it when I posted my Scholes fact

by **Afro** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:33 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:c150 National managers, c 150 national captains and I don't know how many journalists. Say that's 500 people. Each get 3 votes.

Over 20 years, that's 30,000 votes and not one single vote for Scholes.

Surely if he was that highly rated, he would have got at least 1 from 30,000.

And that is just the Balloon Door nominations. I don't know how many vote for WPotY

by Marky Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:33 pm

To add, i'd argue it would be tougher for Wilshere to get a vote now than it would have been for Scholes to get a vote then, due to the players in question. In 2001 there was some debate as to who the best players in the world were. Currently there's no debate, no-one is close to Ronaldo, Messi and Iniesta.

by **Afro** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:35 pm

I might use the same logic as Viva coz I really liked Duncan Ferguson in his prime.

For van Persie to be better than Duncan Ferguson, he has to win the Balon D'or in two years because Ferguson is clearly more rated by managers than Rooney.

And it's people who like RVP that hold football back when you have someone as gifted as Ferguson who doesn't get selected for Scotland

by FIFA Diva Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:35 pm

Afro its blatant cheating, 100% bias against English players and then our English manager capatains are too jealous to vote for a fellow countryman. Ballon dor stinks of corruption and bribery. Id rather listen to bobby charltons view on scholes then these so called pros. Paul scholes is the greatest player ever and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

Scholes is too old tp win pfa young award.

by sodhat Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:37 pm

If you go to Wiki and have a look there are some corkers that have had votes.

El Hadji Diouf Laugh

by **Afro** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:37 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Afro its blatant cheating, 100% bias against English players and then our English manager capatains are too jealous to vote for a fellow countryman. Ballon dor stinks of corruption and bribery. Id rather listen to bobby charltons view on scholes then these so called pros. Paul scholes is the greatest player ever and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

Scholes is too old tp win pfa young award.

Plenty of votes for English players. Beckham, Rooney, Lampard and Gerrard all received loads of votes.

Even Nani has got votes when Scholes hasn't

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:37 pm

Loved this bit from Wenger's press conference!

*After some debate about "wrong information"*

Wenger: "Why are you looking at me?"

Journalist: "It's your press conference"

Laugh

by **Afro** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:38 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Afro its blatant cheating, 100% bias against English players and then our English manager capatains are too jealous to vote for a fellow countryman. Ballon dor stinks of corruption and bribery. Id rather listen to bobby charltons view on scholes then these so called pros. Paul scholes is the greatest player ever and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.

Scholes is too old tp win pfa young award.

1 person's opinion over 30,000. That seems logical

by FIFA Diva Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:38 pm

Afro you're just taking it to extreme levels. Duncan Ferguson is a thug a bully but you all love him if barton did what Ferguson did the public would want him dead but because ita big old dunc its just him being himself.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:40 pm

http://blogs.thescore.com/counterattack/2013/02/18/stolen-video-arsene-wenger-gets-snippy-with-the-press/

Here is the press conference. It's great

by **Afro** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:42 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:Afro you're just taking it to extreme levels. Duncan Ferguson is a thug a bully but you all love him if barton did what Ferguson did the public would want him dead but because ita big old dunc its just him being himself.

No, that is my opinion of Duncan Ferguson, same as yours of Paul Scholes.

Can I also add that RVP is rubbish and worse than Ferguson unless he wins the B'D

by FIFA Diva Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:42 pm

I'll fight you all night on this topic, I know for a fact you allr rate scholes as the greatest english player of all time.

by sodhat Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:43 pm

I rate Scholes

It's just a shame no one else seemed to.

by FIFA Diva Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:45 pm

No afro you cant because you're just being childish.

Twilshere comes no whwre neqr acholes. Ask any english player and they'll tell you scholes is the best. I dont blame you old folks anyway you're still stuck in the 1980s hoof ball stuff.

by **Afro** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:45 pm

We do rate Paul Scholes.

It's just the nonsense that someone has to win the Balloon Door to be able to be better than someone who received no votes ever

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:45 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:I'll fight you all night on this topic, I know for a fact you allr rate scholes as the greatest english player of all time.

#iloveadriandurham

by **Afro** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:50 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:No afro you cant because you're just being childish.

Twilshere comes no whwre neqr acholes. Ask any english player and they'll tell you scholes is the best. I dont blame you old folks anyway you're still stuck in the 1980s hoof ball stuff.

Nonsense. Wilshere is the kingpin in the midfield of a team where technical football is paramount, to the extent that it is often considered their downfall that they overpass it. Going for Wilshere above Scholes is probably more in the direction of beautiful football than away from it and Scholes is more a reason why we still play some hoofball than Wilshere

by Marky Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:16 pm

Damn Scholes and his 60+ yard passes, causing lesser players to try it and be accused of hoofball Wink

by FIFA Diva Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:22 pm

Technical ability alone will not win you matches scholes does hof it 60 yards ots a continental ball which he plays. Scholes unloke wilshere knows when to pass ahort an whn to play a continental pass like the exotic players do

by **Afro** Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:27 pm

I'm offski.

Don't forget to votes gents. I have 4 out of 6 from Prem managers, Marky's and Gregers to go I think

by **Afro** Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:28 pm

And I'm pretty sure Scholes is also the reason why there is horsemeat in all our beef products.

And that is why none of the foreign managers voted for him.

by Marky Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:30 pm

Votes sent to both Afro and Trebs.

Some good matches, two to be precise Wink

by sodhat Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:39 pm

I only have votes from GSC so far....

Doing mine now

by Guest Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:40 pm

Tsk, that Championship really does let the side down eh?

by GSC Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:49 pm

Well if everyone else wants points deductions I'm not complaining Whistle

by sodhat Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:02 pm

Sent mine to you GSC
Good games this week

by Gregers Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:13 pm

Will vote this evening

by GSC Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:15 pm

Swapped Kaboul for Piszczek and Dawson Very Happy

by Marky Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:16 pm

I'm off to watch the famous Red Devils play at home tonight. Crawley v Doncaster and its live on Sky Sports Euro Division Homepage XLIX - Page 13 3559488474

Euro Division Homepage XLIX - Page 13 3559488474

And there's some cup game on ESPN, but that's a foregone conclusion.

by GSC Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:21 pm

Stuck a cheeky fiver on the underdogs.

Rooney's always struggled with Reading.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:25 pm

Di Canio resigns as Swindon manager. Allardyce's contract with West Ham is up in the summer. Di Canio to be West Ham manager next season #calledit

by sodhat Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:32 pm

Olly wrote:Di Canio resigns as Swindon manager. Allardyce's contract with West Ham is up in the summer. Di Canio to be West Ham manager next season #calledit

He would be a hurricane of mental

Can't see it personally, but my would I love it if it happened

by GSC Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:03 pm

Reckon he's off to Notts County for some reason

by Marky Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:21 pm

Captain Josh Euro Division Homepage XLIX - Page 13 3559488474

More important for us than Akpan was, even if Akpan is a better player.

by Marky Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:26 pm

Right on cue, Josh Simpson injured, Sergio Torres on.

by sodhat Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:53 pm

Simpson apparently feared to be serious. Very swollen, either ligaments or broken ankle.

by Marky Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:01 pm

Hope not, but seems he's got a scan tomorrow. It looks like we're missing him in the 15 mins of the match that's happened since he went off.

Nicky Adams definitely knows there's cameras there tonight, very show-boaty.

by Marky Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:13 pm

How the hell are Doncaster pushing for promotion? Bunch of Northern cloggers.

by Marky Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:50 pm

Well that was frustrating. Dominated the second half (minus injury time) and only a point to show for it. Doncaster are a bunch of thugs.

by Guest Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:07 pm

GSC wrote:Swapped Kaboul for Piszczek and Dawson

Swapped Kaboul and £7.9m for Piszczek and Dawson don't you mean? Wink

by GSC Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:09 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:
GSC wrote:Swapped Kaboul for Piszczek and Dawson
Swapped Kaboul and £7.9m for Piszczek and Dawson don't you mean?

And the 4m return I made in a week on kaboul Wink

by GSC Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:11 am

Since I'm awake, I've done lawyers.

Somebody blew my cumulative total last week out the water

by sodhat Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:06 am

Thanks GSC.

I will do results a little later on, once ZZZ gets his in. Still missing them from CF at present too. No bonus available now, but if you vote you don't lose points.

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:13 am

Morning,

I see the Scholes vs Scholes+ debate started again. Couldnt be bothered reading all of it.
But one thing I will say about the Ballon Dor is it does stink, like viva said, this year our nation manager & captain didnt vote for an english player. A lot of top nationals votes can look "dodgy". Joachim Löw's for me were the best.
EG, Casillas voted for Real & national team mate Sergio Ramos ahead of Real team mate Ronaldo.
Del Bosque voted Casillas.
Portugal captain Bruno Alves didnt even have Messi in his votes.
Joachim Löw votes Ozil, Neuer then Xavi. Shocked

Anyway, how was yesterday? Was it settled that Andrea Scholes+ is the best in the World?

by GSC Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:15 am

When can we add bonuses for voting/tactics

by sodhat Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:17 am

after results are up. it will be around midday i guess.

by GSC Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:17 am

Alright. Not that I have anything left to spend haha

by Marky Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:18 am

I've got a TP target, but seeing as I never seem to get the first midday post up in the TP page after 2 attempts, i'll just hope no-one gets him!

by **Afro** Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:18 am

We only do it to wind Viva and you up, but you've got to admit the point on Scholes.

Viva always tells us how us fans don't recognise his talents, but those involved in football see it and recognise Scholes as the greatest English player of his generation.

To not receive a single vote in 20 years, out of 30,000 from people involved in football does make that look like that statement is wrong. And it's not an English things or United thing because Rooney and Beckham received plenty of votes, as have Lampard and Gerrard, and even Nani has received votes

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