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Scarlets V Munster PYS Sat
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Preview: Scarlets v Munster
Scarlets have won their last two fixtures at Parc y Scarlets, over Leicester in the Anglo-Welsh Cup and Connacht in the RaboDirect PRO12.
Munster have won five of their last six contests in all competitions. The Munstermen have won their last two away games in the RaboDirect PRO12, but have not won three in a row on the road in the same season in the tournament since 2010/11.
Scarlets beat Munster 13-6 at Musgrave Park in round nine, and have not completed a league double over the Munstermen since 2003/04.
At Parc y Scarlets , 6.30pm Live on S4C/RTE Sport
Referee: Dudley Phillips (IRFU, 31st competition game)
Assistant Referees: Neil Hennessy, Simon Rees (both WRU)
Citing Commissioner: Russell Howell (WRU)
TMO: Gareth Simmonds (WRU)
SCARLETS -
Gareth Owen,
Liam Williams,
Gareth Maule,
Adam Warren,
Andy Fenby,
Owen Williams,
Aled Davies,
Phil John,
Emyr Phillips
Jacobie Adriaanse
George Earle
Johan Synman
Rob McCusker (capt)
Josh Turnbull
Kieran Murphy.
Replacements: 16 Kirby Myhill, 17 Rhodri Jones, 18 Samson Lee, 19 Jake Ball, 20 Johnathan Edwards, 21 Gareth Davies, 22 Aled Thomas 23 Nick Reynolds.
MUNSTER -
I Keatley;
D Hurley,
I Dineen,
JJ Hanrahan,
J Murphy;
R O’Gara,
D Williams;
W du Preez,
M Sherry,
BJ Botha;
D O’Callaghan,
I Nagle;
CJ Stander,
T O’Donnell,
P Butler.
Replacements: D Varley, J Ryan, S Archer, B Holland, S Dougall, C Sheridan, D Barnes, C Laulala.
Preview: Scarlets v Munster
Scarlets have won their last two fixtures at Parc y Scarlets, over Leicester in the Anglo-Welsh Cup and Connacht in the RaboDirect PRO12.
Munster have won five of their last six contests in all competitions. The Munstermen have won their last two away games in the RaboDirect PRO12, but have not won three in a row on the road in the same season in the tournament since 2010/11.
Scarlets beat Munster 13-6 at Musgrave Park in round nine, and have not completed a league double over the Munstermen since 2003/04.
At Parc y Scarlets , 6.30pm Live on S4C/RTE Sport
Referee: Dudley Phillips (IRFU, 31st competition game)
Assistant Referees: Neil Hennessy, Simon Rees (both WRU)
Citing Commissioner: Russell Howell (WRU)
TMO: Gareth Simmonds (WRU)
SCARLETS -
Gareth Owen,
Liam Williams,
Gareth Maule,
Adam Warren,
Andy Fenby,
Owen Williams,
Aled Davies,
Phil John,
Emyr Phillips
Jacobie Adriaanse
George Earle
Johan Synman
Rob McCusker (capt)
Josh Turnbull
Kieran Murphy.
Replacements: 16 Kirby Myhill, 17 Rhodri Jones, 18 Samson Lee, 19 Jake Ball, 20 Johnathan Edwards, 21 Gareth Davies, 22 Aled Thomas 23 Nick Reynolds.
MUNSTER -
I Keatley;
D Hurley,
I Dineen,
JJ Hanrahan,
J Murphy;
R O’Gara,
D Williams;
W du Preez,
M Sherry,
BJ Botha;
D O’Callaghan,
I Nagle;
CJ Stander,
T O’Donnell,
P Butler.
Replacements: D Varley, J Ryan, S Archer, B Holland, S Dougall, C Sheridan, D Barnes, C Laulala.
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valjester wrote:I'll keep criticising ROG if he keeps playing so badly.
Good evening everyone and Happy New Year
Managed to get this on the box
ROG actually has been having an ok game so far, he certainly is not on to tackle or take on 3 or 4 guys. The Munster back row and certainly their engine room are slow around the loose and not providing any platform for the halfbacks
I think you can smell the tension in the air.......... gripping stuff
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Poor pass by JJ ruins promising Munster move, should have done better, interesting enough half but Duncan Williams surely cannot stay on the pitch much longer, once again he is hopeless. I remember seeing him years ago and thinking he had so much potential but he has never kicked on and should not have a pro contract at this stage of his career.
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valjester wrote:I'll keep criticising ROG if he keeps playing so badly.
You can do what you want mate but given you are some clueless prat I suppose I shouldn't take notice..carry on with your rubbish...
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DOD wrote:valjester wrote:I'll keep criticising ROG if he keeps playing so badly.
You can do what you want mate but given you are some clueless prat I suppose I shouldn't take notice..carry on with your rubbish...
Thank you for your kind words. But seriously, Rog is past it and it is sad to see him playing so badly compared to how good he once was. It is 18 months at least since ROG turned in an entirely good performance. His kicking has lost a lot of distance, from the tee and from hand. His kicking in that half, and last weekend against England, is not accurate enough to put Munster on the front foot and is instead inviting the Scarlets back three to counter attack. His passing is no longer as accurate as it once was. He is nearly 36 years old, time has caught up on him, he is playing poorly.
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Haha..Williams is also doing well tonight...what's the story Val are you one of those ex schoolboy types whose alma mater got beaten yet again by pres or christians
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wow Hook just criticised ROG didn't see that coming but then O'Gara he hasn't had a good first half so I guess he is calling what he sees. Munster need to up it here if they are going to win.
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Jj and keatley have done most of that kicking you dolt...
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You think Williams is doing well??DOD wrote:Haha..Williams is also doing well tonight...what's the story Val are you one of those ex schoolboy types whose alma mater got beaten yet again by pres or christians
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valjester wrote:DOD wrote:valjester wrote:I'll keep criticising ROG if he keeps playing so badly.
You can do what you want mate but given you are some clueless prat I suppose I shouldn't take notice..carry on with your rubbish...
Thank you for your kind words. But seriously, Rog is past it and it is sad to see him playing so badly compared to how good he once was. It is 18 months at least since ROG turned in an entirely good performance. His kicking has lost a lot of distance, from the tee and from hand. His kicking in that half, and last weekend against England, is not accurate enough to put Munster on the front foot and is instead inviting the Scarlets back three to counter attack. His passing is no longer as accurate as it once was. He is nearly 36 years old, time has caught up on him, he is playing poorly.
ROGs age, how good he was etc is of no relevance. The only relevance here is
"Is he the horse for the course?", "Is he the best option for Munster tonight?"
DOD, Bluemuff what's your opinion?
In my opinion he is not playing poorly............. he has not had any room or platform so far
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I agree its actually been Williams best performance for Munster. He setting the centres into space with some angled passes. Still dont think he is great but its harsh to be criticising him tonight
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BlueMuff wrote:I agree its actually been Williams best performance for Munster. He setting the centres into space with some angled passes. Still dont think he is great but its harsh to be criticising him tonight
Seriously? His passing has been as bad as usual, and his decision making is terrible.
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Fly, Keatley would be my first starter for Munster at 10. I get nervous anytime ROG has the ball in mid field. He should retire.
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DOD wrote:Jj and keatley have done most of that kicking you dolt...
No they haven't. You are telling me to open my eyes yet are incapable of telling the difference between the players. And no none of the schools I attended ever played any Cork teams.
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Scarlets have a kick at half way then DOC loses 10 metres for backchat!
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That is a ridiculously soft penalty.
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DOD wrote:Jj and keatley have done most of that kicking you dolt...
Was that aimed at me? If it was it's a bit uncalled for ain't it and O'Gara has missed 2 shots at goal right I suppose that was Keatley too, please stop sticking up for a guy who is not playing well. I would also point out that I said nothing about kicking. You are clearly a bit dellusional.
O'Callaghan should know better than to argue with the ref there.
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neilthom7 wrote:DOD wrote:Jj and keatley have done most of that kicking you dolt...
Was that aimed at me? If it was it's a bit uncalled for ain't it and O'Gara has missed 2 shots at goal right I suppose that was Keatley too, please stop sticking up for a guy who is not playing well. I would also point out that I said nothing about kicking. You are clearly a bit dellusional.
O'Callaghan should know better than to argue with the ref there.
It was aimed at me, see his previous comments towards me.
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Is du preezs contract finished this year?
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Golden wrote:Is du preezs contract finished this year?
I've heard he won't be at Munster next season.
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G Owen is having a good game, the ref need to produce some yellow cards to reduce the penalties it is spoiling the game.
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valjester wrote:DOD wrote:valjester wrote:I'll keep criticising ROG if he keeps playing so badly.
You can do what you want mate but given you are some clueless prat I suppose I shouldn't take notice..carry on with your rubbish...
Thank you for your kind words. But seriously, Rog is past it and it is sad to see him playing so badly compared to how good he once was. It is 18 months at least since ROG turned in an entirely good performance. His kicking has lost a lot of distance, from the tee and from hand. His kicking in that half, and last weekend against England, is not accurate enough to put Munster on the front foot and is instead inviting the Scarlets back three to counter attack. His passing is no longer as accurate as it once was. He is nearly 36 years old, time has caught up on him, he is playing poorly.
ROGs age, how good he was etc is of no relevance. The only relevance here is
"Is he the horse for the course?", "Is he the best option for Munster tonight?"
DOD, Bluemuff what's your opinion?
In my opinion he is not playing poorly............. he has not had any room or platform so far
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Probably a good thing. Could do with getting rid of both SA props to be honest.
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What a shocker of a kick from O' Gara. Absolutely appalling
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Thats so odd from O'Gara despite all criticism etc he has always been a good goal kicker, is it a possibility that he is feeling pressure from the younger guys?
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ROGs age, how good he was etc is of no relevance. The only relevance here is
"Is he the horse for the course?", "Is he the best option for Munster tonight?"
DOD, Bluemuff what's your opinion?
In my opinion he is not playing poorly............. he has not had any room or platform so far
How good he was if of relevance, because it seems to cloud people's opinions on how good he is now.
He is not playing well, look at the difference in how the two backlines are playing, Rog is just shovelling the ball along the Munster line, not threatening any breaks, allowing the Scarlets defense drift across and target the ball receiver. He is not a horse for courses selection because he cannot play to Penney's game plan. Keatley and JJ can.
Williams dithers again putting Munster under lots of pressure.
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Who missed that penalty kick? Couldn't have been O'Gara could it?
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Holley must be having an impact on the scarlets they are tackling!
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Its sad to see such a legend struggle like this. He needs to hang up the boots.
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There is absolutley no way ROG can start for Ireland. This is just awful.
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LeinsterFan4life wrote:There is absolutley no way ROG can start for Ireland. This is just awful.
It is what Kidney thinks though so expect to see him on the teamsheet
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neilthom7 wrote:Thats so odd from O'Gara despite all criticism etc he has always been a good goal kicker, is it a possibility that he is feeling pressure from the younger guys?
I think he is. If you look at some of his decision making earlier in the season, taking short drop outs trying to show he can create stuff, and making mistakes by taking the wrong options. He usually always played smartly, but the pressure us making him taking unnecessary risks.
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Should have been a penalty to Munster there. First nice bit of play by ROG tonight.
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This reminds me of the Munster v Ospreys, Munster never looked like getting through just going side to side, Scarlets tackling going well so far.
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That was a very poor attempt by ROG, perhaps bring Keatley into the 10 slot?
Saying that Munster are getting turned over quite a bit
Saying that Munster are getting turned over quite a bit
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Should put JJ at ten He's the only one who can make something out of nothing. He is being wasted at Munster imo.flyhalffactory wrote:That was a very poor attempt by ROG, perhaps bring Keatley into the 10 slot?
Saying that Munster are getting turned over quite a bit
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Samson Lee is quite a prospect
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LeinsterFan4life wrote:Should put JJ at then. He's the only one who can make something out of nothing. He is being wasted at Munster imo.flyhalffactory wrote:That was a very poor attempt by ROG, perhaps bring Keatley into the 10 slot?
Saying that Munster are getting turned over quite a bit
In fairness I've heard there were some slight problems with his attitude in the first half of the season, but he is supposed to have got his head right now. He looks decent any time he sees the ball.
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Scarlets have a flyhalf that can kick drop goals.
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The ref is being extremely inconsistent with penalising the defending team for going off their feet, Munster seem to have been penalised every few rucks, but Scarlets are getting away with flopping at every ruck.
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This must be the most clueless Munster team I have ever seen
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Bad mistake by JJ
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I think Munster were better to watch under McGahon, really doesn't say much for Penney
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Cathal Sheridan looks a decent prospect.
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LeinsterFan4life wrote:Cathal Sheridan looks a decent prospect.
He has a lovely pass tbf, jesus poor pass by LLL but JJ should have held that.
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F**king hopeless.
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The second row looked miles offside when ROG kicked that ball.
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LaLaLa is not doing very well everybody knows he is not going to pass, he is better when the back line is moving forward.
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Dreadful stuff but want to say good was Sherry tonight. He is pure class
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glamorganalun wrote:LaLaLa is not doing very well everybody knows he is not going to pass, he is better when the back line is moving forward.
He has been a terrible signing for Munster, absolutely beyond poor.
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BlueMuff wrote:Dreadful stuff but want to say good was Sherry tonight. He is pure class
He was unlucky to be binned, I'd have him ahead of Cronin atm if I'm completely honest.
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