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Post by Pal Joey Fri Feb 15, 2013 8:45 pm

First topic message reminder :

2013 Super XV Table


Team
Played Won Draw Lost
F
A
+/-
TBP
Points
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Brumbi10Brumbies**
15
10
2
3
415
274
+141
7
59
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Chiefs10 Chiefs**
13
10
0
3
383
283
+100
8
56
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Bulls10 Bulls**
13
10
0
3
367
263
+104
6
54
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Reds10 Reds**
15
9
2
4
307
284
+23
6
54
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Crusad10 Crusaders**
13
8
0
5
338
263
+75
6
46
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Cheeta10 Cheetahs*
14
9
0
5
345
317
+28
6
46
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Warata11 Waratahs**
15
8
0
7
399
357
+42
4
44
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Blues10 Blues**
13
6
0
7
298
282
+16
11
43
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Hurric10 Hurricanes**
13
6
0
7
303
349
-46
7
39
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Sharks10 Sharks**
13
6
0
7
285
252
+33
6
38
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Storme10 Stormers**
13
6
0
7
264
264
0
6
38
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Rebels10 Rebels**
15
4
0
11
344
478
-134
8
32
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Force11 Force**
15
3
1
11
246
351
-105
5
27
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Kings10 Kings**
13
3
1
9
255
434
-179
2
24
2013 Super XV: Fixtures, Results & Table - Page 9 Highla11 Highlanders**
13
2
0
11
276
374
-98
6
22


TBP: Total Bonus Points = (4 Tries + Loss Within 7 Points) Bonus Points
* denotes Bye = 4 points
Conference Leader
Wildcard


Fixtures & Results:

Round 17:
Brumbies 39 v 17 Rebels
Force 13 v 28 Waratahs

Round 18:
Friday 28 June
Chiefs v Hurricanes, Waikato Stadium, 19:35 local, 07:35 GMT, 17:35 EST, 17:05 CST, 15:35 WST
Saturday 29 June
Highlanders v Crusaders, Forsyth Barr Stadium, 19:35 local, 07:35 GMT, 17:35 EST, 17:05 CST, 15:35 WST
Sharks v Blues, Kings Park Stadium, 15:00 local, 13:00 GMT, 23:00 EST, 22:30 CST, 21:00 WST
Bulls v Kings, Loftus Versfeld Stadium, 17:05 local, 15:05 GMT, 01:05 EST +1d, 00:35 CST +1d, 23:05 WST
Stormers v Cheetahs, Newlands Stadium, 19:10 local, 17:10 GMT, 03:10 EST +1d, 02:40 CST +1d, 01:10 WST +1d


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Post by Biltong Thu May 09, 2013 6:20 pm

exactly.

Often I see a player who passes being tackled, and by the time the receiver takes the ball he is ahead of the passer, some is called forward others not, so to enable all teams to have a fair decision making process, just ignore the momentum of the ball, as long as the reciever was behind the passer at the time the ball is thrown.
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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu May 09, 2013 6:22 pm


I think weve got a deal Biltong.

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Post by Biltong Thu May 09, 2013 6:25 pm

Cool, are you buying the plane tickets so we can go talk face to face with the IRB?
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Post by aucklandlaurie Thu May 09, 2013 6:28 pm


Nah stuff that, with such a sensible, progressive idea as ours they'll come to us.

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Post by Biltong Thu May 09, 2013 6:46 pm

Laugh

Excellent.
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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 7:16 pm

I thought that try from the Tahs went forward even though it went backwards off his hands. Was good to hear the TMO say "youcanawardthetry!" Wink

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Post by Biltong Thu May 09, 2013 7:21 pm

Linebreaker wrote:I thought that try from the Tahs went forward even though it went backwards off his hands. Was good to hear the TMO say "youcanawardthetry!" Wink

But you see LB, that is where the inconsistency lies, some will award it and others won't.

Imagine how these teams feel in a change room after a match and they analyse refereeing decisions and realised the inconsistencies.
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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 7:24 pm

Pretty gutted I'd suspect.

Did you think the other one they didn't award up the other end in the 2nd half was an obstruction or tackling the player without the ball?

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Post by Biltong Thu May 09, 2013 7:32 pm

Mate there were so many tries in that match and it was such a poor match in relation to being competitive I watched with half an eye.

I remember something, I think the guy on the inside was tackled without the ball?

will have to see the incident again I am afraid.

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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 7:36 pm

I think Asbo posted the video up earlier on.

The Kings defence was so poor but I also think the Tahs just blitzed them with power, pace and guile. Some of those runs were incredible - the steps they put on and the offloads to supporting runners was of the highest quality.

Can the Kings turn things around against the Highlanders do you reckon?

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Post by Biltong Thu May 09, 2013 7:38 pm

Nah, their spirit has now been broken, it started when the Bulls nilled them, the Cheetahs should also have scored a bonus point try but somehow the y were held up three times over the try line and denied.

I reckon the kings are now cannon fodder for the rest of the season.
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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 7:40 pm

So you tipped the Highlanders too? Smile

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Post by Biltong Thu May 09, 2013 7:48 pm

Laugh Going to yes.
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Post by Biltong Thu May 09, 2013 7:54 pm

By the way, see if you can answer these question about the Conference system:

What is the percentage of home games won in super XV in the first two years? (2 points)

Who are the top ten most successful teams at home since the Super XV began? Provide the answer in order from most to least successful. (10 points)

Who are the top ten most successful teams outside their conferences? Provide again in best to worst. (10 points)

Lets see how knowledgeable you are.
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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 7:55 pm

I had to think about it but I sort of came to the same conclusion.

The only problem for us will be if the H's leave their game (last week's) at customs and the Kings grow huge quantities of confidence. Smile

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Post by Biltong Thu May 09, 2013 8:06 pm

THe highlanders got a lot of confidence from their win against the Sharks even though they can count themselves lucky that the Sharks who should have won the game again were the masters of their own demise.

The Kings will be low on confidence and I just can't see them picking up the baton and running with it again.

But then , nothing is a certainty these days.
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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 8:09 pm

If only it were a 400m medley... they have some quick baastards don't they? Smile

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu May 09, 2013 8:12 pm

Biltong wrote:By the way, see if you can answer these question about the Conference system:

What is the percentage of home games won in super XV in the first two years? (2 points)

Who are the top ten most successful teams at home since the Super XV began? Provide the answer in order from most to least successful. (10 points)

Who are the top ten most successful teams outside their conferences? Provide again in best to worst. (10 points)

Lets see how knowledgeable you are.

In the questions, do you mean from the start of Super Rugby (1996), or after the expansion to 15 teams?
Either way I'd be guessing, though I remember hearing last year that the Crusaders had the best away record of any team in Super rugby history
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Post by Biltong Thu May 09, 2013 9:17 pm

Since 2011.
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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 9:20 pm

I'd guess Crusaders, Bull, Brumbies, Sharks, Stormers would be the top 5 for "Who are the top ten most successful teams at home since the Super XV began?". Not sure about 3,4,5....10 though.

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Post by Biltong Thu May 09, 2013 9:24 pm

Includes this year so far.

HOME WINS
TEAM FORTRESS
CRUSADERS 85%
REDS 82%
STORMERS 80%
BULLS 76%
SHARKS 76%
CHIEFS 67%
WARATAHS 62%
BLUES 57%
HURICANES 55%
BRUMBIES 55%
HIGHLANDERS 45%
CHEETAHS 43%
MELBOURNE REBELS 30%
FORCE 20%
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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 9:26 pm

Reds are up there. Stormers have done well too. Thought the Brumbies would be higher. Blues should be higher, right Laurie?

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Thu May 09, 2013 9:27 pm

You missed an obvious one LB the reds.

It's all irrelevant though. The crusaders are the best! Even though we didn't really have a home stadium for a while. Would be surprised if we were number one since 2011.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Thu May 09, 2013 9:27 pm

Not after last years horror season lb.

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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 9:32 pm

The last decade or more has been tough for them apart from their semi final appearance in 2007 or whenever it was? The first few years were a different story though, kia.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Thu May 09, 2013 9:36 pm

We don't want to remember those days. Dark days. Dark days. The wounds have yet to heal! Just be thankful for the crusaders bringing peace and harmony after such a long and cruel dynasty. Very Happy

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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 10:19 pm

I'm happy for ya, kia. Smile
The Lions (of Wellington) must feel a bit left out... hardly a crumb for them!

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Thu May 09, 2013 10:28 pm

I have a hurricanes traing shirt from Dallas Seymour. I think all of NZ are closet Huuricanes fans because when they click they are a joy to watch but when they are bad they are car crash bad. Which us why nobody will own up to them.

I think nzers in general want all their franchises to do well really. I just love winding up because there were plenty of lean years with canty and in my student days otago was my adopted team because even though I always supported canty we were pretty awful for most of the 90s.

I'm sure you're happy with the improvement of the Aussie franchises and I'm looking forward to the rc because it looks much more even this year.

I'm quite happy to see Oz and Sa stronger because ultimately that makes nz stronger. The same now applies to arg. In a way that extends to the NH as well because then you strive to be stronger.

That's the beauty of this year. Not many cellar dwellers as in other years and you can throw a tissue over the top ten. That makes for a great closing end to this tourney.

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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 10:40 pm

Yeah, you know whenever Australia seems to be improving, then NZ react and raise the bar even higher. It's the natural way we approach the game.

SA are always a formidable prospect - I can't believe we escaped with those wins a few times (as Biltong will attest)... before getting hammered by them last year in the return RC match.

I really hope Argentina give England a good pummeling and that they do that little bit better this year in the RC. It's only a matter of time before they break through with a win.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Thu May 09, 2013 10:46 pm

It comes from striving for consistency. The 2009 Sa whitewash isn't that long ago but it can be seen as a major benefit towards 2011. There was disappointment in eng but at the same time a feeling of satisfaction that this would precipitate an improvement in 2013 because we respond well to failure partly because we despise failure but recognize its motivational benefits.

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Post by Pal Joey Thu May 09, 2013 11:00 pm

Really? You despise failure? Well... I never would have guessed. Laugh

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Post by doctor_grey Fri May 10, 2013 10:55 am

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:It comes from striving for consistency. The 2009 Sa whitewash isn't that long ago but it can be seen as a major benefit towards 2011. There was disappointment in eng but at the same time a feeling of satisfaction that this would precipitate an improvement in 2013 because we respond well to failure partly because we despise failure but recognize its motivational benefits.
You are a very deep person.

By the by, should I be watching the Chiefs v Force at 3:30 this morn?
How does one pronounce the town where the match is being played (I could make a major hash of it): Pukekohe

I have surgery at 7:00am Friday. Jeez, I hope I don't screw up.


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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri May 10, 2013 3:46 pm

Pu (as in the pu in pull), kay ko hay but said quickly. Shame it's not played in Whakatane.

Could be an entertaining match but that's an early wake up call and wouldn't want to push you down the wrong path.

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Post by Pal Joey Fri May 10, 2013 6:36 pm

What body part are you working on Doc?

I suppose a small flat screen in the corner of the surgery is frowned upon? Smile

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Post by doctor_grey Fri May 10, 2013 6:36 pm

Good morning.
19-11 start of 2nd half.

Pu kay ko hay - I needs to practice.

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Post by Pal Joey Fri May 10, 2013 6:38 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Pu (as in the pu in pull), kay ko hay but said quickly. Shame it's not played in Whakatane.

Could be an entertaining match but that's an early wake up call and wouldn't want to push you down the wrong path.

You wouldn't want him to whak things up now would you? Whistle

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Post by Pal Joey Fri May 10, 2013 6:38 pm

22-11 to the Chiefs in Pukekohe.

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Post by Pal Joey Fri May 10, 2013 6:39 pm

Plenty of steam rising from the packs... or is Aaron Cruden already having a cigar?

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Post by Biltong Fri May 10, 2013 6:41 pm

Good morning kids, some good games to look forward to, eh?
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri May 10, 2013 6:43 pm

Don't make them long syllables. Say them quickly.

Then again the white bread always seem to anglicise the place names so don't lose sleep over it. It's not going to be much already!

But like the speights ads good on ya mate. thumbsup

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Post by doctor_grey Fri May 10, 2013 6:43 pm

Linebreaker,
Massive shoulder reconstruction this morning. Poor bloke was wedged under a car after it was hit by a lorry a few days ago. He wasn't stable enough to work on the arm and shoulder until today. I was up studying the case late last night. Hoping to save the arm and restore most mobility. He is actually lucky to be alive. Just ten years ago they type of surgery we are planning wasn't possible. Its days like these when I am still amazed about what we are able to do.

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Post by Pal Joey Fri May 10, 2013 6:45 pm

Jeez... so how long did the operation take? Poor fella. I hope he recovers well.
Great work Doc. OK


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Post by doctor_grey Fri May 10, 2013 6:45 pm

MUst be wicked cold there in Pu kay ko hay

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri May 10, 2013 6:46 pm

Course not LB but this doc is a clever chap and if a malpractice suit comes his way iti might be passed on to me. Shocked

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Post by Pal Joey Fri May 10, 2013 6:47 pm

Is that where the resident goat is, kia?

What's it's name? Dolly or something? Wink

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Post by doctor_grey Fri May 10, 2013 6:47 pm

Op is this morning, my time. Starts in 3 hours.
Should take about 5 hours, plus or minus.
Need to leave for hospital by the end of Chiefs-Force.

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Post by doctor_grey Fri May 10, 2013 6:48 pm

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Course not LB but this doc is a clever chap and if a malpractice suit comes his way iti might be passed on to me. Shocked
Please forward the name of you legal team. Thank you............

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Post by Pal Joey Fri May 10, 2013 6:48 pm

Best of luck with that mate.
Have you had a few coffee or does that make you a bit shaky?

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri May 10, 2013 6:49 pm

Way to make our lives seem small and meaningless as well as vacuous doc!

But that said good on ya mate. Hug

Ps you're still not pronouncing it right. Whistle

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri May 10, 2013 6:51 pm

doctor_grey wrote:
kiakahaaotearoa wrote:Course not LB but this doc is a clever chap and if a malpractice suit comes his way iti might be passed on to me. Shocked
Please forward the name of you legal team. Thank you............

Kia will be representing himself. That way his identity will remain unknown. ghost

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