Ireland Vs Scotland - Injurymageddan vs Resurgence

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UPDATED - Ireland 29 Man Squad Announced:

Hooker- Rory Best, Sean Cronin,
Props- David Kilcoyne, Tom Court, Mike Ross, Declan Fitzpatrick,

Second Row- Donnacha Ryan, Donncha O'Callaghan, Ian Henderson, Lewis Stevenson, Devin Toner
Backrow - Jamie Heaslip, Sean O'Brien, Peter O'Mahony, Chris Henry, James Coughlan,

Scrumhalf - Conor Murray, Eoin Reddan,
Flyhalf- Ronan O'Gara, Paddy Jackson,

Centre- Brian O'Driscoll, Keith Earls, Luke Marshall, Darren Cave,
Wings- Craig Gilroy, Fergus McFadden, Luke Fitzgerald,
FullBack- Rob Kearney, Robin Henshaw

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So with Darcy now out, where will Deccie be forced to go? I think we all realize he will go with ROG and use the Darcy injury as even more excuse to stay with a “wise” old head at outhalf. Below I put in what I believe Deccie will put down as the starting line-up and below that my selection. Just to clarify, either team is capable of beating Scotland as we all know that we can show up and randomly, erraticly beat nearly anyone, but I believe my team has the benefit of win or lose being a team that starts to prove out whether the young players we all have such hopes for can do a job for us.

Deccie (Total Starting Caps, 663, 363 Backs, 300 Forwards)
15 Kearney (43)
14 McFadden (16)
13 Earls (36)
12 O’Driscoll (122)
11 Gilroy (3)
10 ROG (127)
9 Murray (16)
8 Heaslip (54)
7 SOB (24)
6 POM (11)
5 Ryan (25)
4 DOC (92)
3 Ross (26)
2 Best (64)
1 Kilcoyne (4)

16 Cronin (24), 17 Court (29), 18 Fitzpatrick (4), 19 Henderson (2), 20 Henry (6), 21 Reddan (48), 22 Jackson (0), 23 Fitz (49)
Bench Caps: 162

Me (Total Starting Caps, 394, 207 Backs, 187 Forwards)
15 Kearney (43)
14 Earls (36)
13 O’Driscoll (122)
12 Marshall (0)
11 Gilroy (3)
10 Madigan (0)
9 Murray (16)
8 POM (11)
7 Henry (6)
6 SOB (24)
5 Ryan (25)
4 Henderson (2)
3 Ross (26)
2 Best (64)
1 Court (29)


16 Cronin (24), 17 Kilcoyne (4), 18 Fitzpatrick (4), 19 DOC (92), 20 Heaslip (54), 21 Reddan (48), 22 Jackson (0), 23 McFadden (16)
Bench Caps: 242

dublin_dave wrote:what did he do lads. in san fran with work but streams poxed now

Kidney out

Kicked the ball away straight to a Scottish player almost giving them a try.

Murrayfield in the wet. Scots just in the lead. Now you know why England hate it so much.

Well, they've gone for the corner and it's do or die...

Yep, starting McFadden over earls would have also won them this game

Tick-tock... tick-tock...

Mr Kidney is currently wondering what he'll do in retirement...

I'm switching the telly off, let me know how it goes lads.

Hurry up Reddan!

Oh schitt, Scotland have a scrum with 90 seconds to go.

rodders wrote:I'm switching the telly off, let me know how it goes lads.

Sounds like a smart move.

Beefy is having steak and KIDNEY Pie for dinner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Scottish fans are already celebrating. Even a drop goal from ROG couldn't save this.

It isn't over quite yet

Its for the best Irish fans. It will at least prevent 4 more years of complete and utter waste.

Think positive.

Jim Hamilton is MOTM

Gibson wrote:Its for the best Irish fans. It will at least prevent 4 more years of complete and utter waste.

Think positive.

Indeed. Things must get worse in order to get better. So fecking frustrating though. Ireland have more than enough talent.

Damn tense, and I'm a neutral

Gawd if Ireland got a try now...

captain controversy strikes again

Great defence by Scotland in this game.

No idea how Ireland have messed this up, domintaed possession and territory but incapable of getting the points they needed.

Well done Scotland. Im not going to say you deserved to win but that Irish team definitely didnt. They were brutal.

I really hate what kidney has done to this team.

No chance. It's knocked on.

Well done Scotland. 12-8 FT.

Feel for you Irish fans. Complete travesty of justice.

Now this idiot ref gives them a penalty. Surely IRB need to look into Barnes' performance - that was shocking!

Ireland.....seriously?

That last penalty typifies this Ireland performance, all the opportunities, none of the points.

Wales will kick their points no matter who gets injured, let's see if Scotland can handle that.

That makes the Scotland v Wales match very very interesting.

Linebreaker wrote:Feel for you Irish fans. Complete travesty of justice.

Now this idiot ref gives them a penalty. Surely IRB need to look into Barnes' performance - that was shocking!

He's nowhere near as bad as Joubert.

Morgannwg wrote:

Linebreaker wrote:Feel for you Irish fans. Complete travesty of justice.

Now this idiot ref gives them a penalty. Surely IRB need to look into Barnes' performance - that was shocking!

He's nowhere near as bad as Joubert.

Joubert the best referee in the World???

well done Scotland, very well deserved

Take your wooden spoon ROG and kidney and fiec off please.

Rog to announce retirement?

Well done Scotland. Happy for ye. Have a wee dram on us. Proper whiskEy mind...

Well done Scotland - well deserved. And Ireland did well to stay in the game so long.

Big match between France and Ireland now!

ChequeredJersey wrote:

Morgannwg wrote:

Linebreaker wrote:Feel for you Irish fans. Complete travesty of justice.

Now this idiot ref gives them a penalty. Surely IRB need to look into Barnes' performance - that was shocking!

He's nowhere near as bad as Joubert.

Joubert the best referee in the World???

What are you taking?

Great defence and spirit from Scotland though, Ireland really really really should have put that one away

Gibson wrote:Well done Scotland. Happy for ye. Have a wee dram on us. Proper whiskEy mind...

Ta.

Pretty sure Jackson will be scapegoated but in reality it was our ore experienced players let us down. That and an ability not to take our chances.

Luke Marshall was guilty of throwing a really poor scoring pass
Keith Earls was guilty of choosing not to pass.

Credit to Scotland though they scrapped for everything, took their chances and destroyed our set piece. On that basis they deserved the win.

From a Irish pov disappointed in

Court
Kilcoyne
Best
Jacksons kicking
ROGs cameo was disastrous
SOB


Pleased with

Gilroy
Marshall
Our attacking Play in the first half.
Heaslips best game for a while

Overall there are positives and take nothing away from Scotland who were clinical.

I said prior to the game this would decide kidneys future and he is now a goner. It's a shame because it was a positive selection but he is paying the price for past sins not that selection IMO

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Rog to announce retirement?

After the tournament I reckon.

Rodders - France might still get the wooden spoon or even a whitewash.

If only Jackson had more kicking experience, but ROG was utter sh1te there.

Well done Scotland. Thought O Gara was robbed of MOTM.

They're both terrible refs. Absolutely no feel for the spirit or flow of the game and make too many technical errors as well.

Rog won that for us. Cheers son

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Rog to announce retirement?

I bet that's what you Irish fans are wishing.

Barney McGrew did it wrote:Well done Scotland - well deserved. And Ireland did well to stay in the game so long.

That was completely crazy. I really think that we robbed Ireland, to be honest.

However, that was a defensive performance like the Scotland team of 2009 and that's very pleasing.

There you have the Ronan O'Gara legacy. Anything good he ever did is being totally undone by this comedy of errors. He is now one of the worst professional players I have ever seen on a rugby pitch. That is no exaggeration, anyone who has been watching him for Munster and Ireland over the past few seasons will have seen the same.

clivemcl wrote:If only Jackson had more kicking experience, but ROG was utter sh1te there.

Really can't blame Jackson (although most people probably will). The coaches should've used all their decent kickers not just two - McFadden could've kicked for them as well if he'd been put on.

I think you guys are blaming Joubert too much based on one poor game yesterday. He's generally pretty good. Barnes is consistently awful. Are there any referees that any posters here actually rate? 'Cause I've never seen a 606er praise the referee ever and every single International match sees bitching about the referee and how awful they are

George Carlin wrote:That was completely crazy. I really think that we robbed Ireland, to be honest.

However, that was a defensive performance like the Scotland team of 2009 and that's very pleasing.

Yeah to be fair, Scotland's defence was solid.

Statistically Ireland should've won that.

Standulstermen wrote:Pretty sure Jackson will be scapegoated but in reality it was our ore experienced players let us down. That and an ability not to take our chances.

Luke Marshall was guilty of throwing a really poor scoring pass
Keith Earls was guilty of choosing not to pass.

Credit to Scotland though they scrapped for everything, took their chances and destroyed our set piece. On that basis they deserved the win.

From a Irish pov disappointed in

Court
Kilcoyne
Best
Jacksons kicking
ROGs cameo was disastrous
SOB


Pleased with

Gilroy
Marshall
Our attacking Play in the first half.
Heaslips best game for a while

Overall there are positives and take nothing away from Scotland who were clinical.

I said prior to the game this would decide kidneys future and he is now a goner. It's a shame because it was a positive selection but he is paying the price for past sins not that selection IMO

Have to say I have no idea how you could be disappointed with SOB, Stand? He must have been the top ball carrier in that game, and up there for tackle stats in the irish team also. His decision making at times is still suspect but I thought he was one of our best players.

Standulstermen wrote:Pretty sure Jackson will be scapegoated but in reality it was our ore experienced players let us down. That and an ability not to take our chances.

Luke Marshall was guilty of throwing a really poor scoring pass
Keith Earls was guilty of choosing not to pass.

Credit to Scotland though they scrapped for everything, took their chances and destroyed our set piece. On that basis they deserved the win.

From a Irish pov disappointed in

Court
Kilcoyne
Best
Jacksons kicking
ROGs cameo was disastrous
SOB


Pleased with

Gilroy
Marshall
Our attacking Play in the first half.
Heaslips best game for a while

Overall there are positives and take nothing away from Scotland who were clinical.

I said prior to the game this would decide kidneys future and he is now a goner. It's a shame because it was a positive selection but he is paying the price for past sins not that selection IMO

Fair analysis, Stand. I keep replaying that Earls butchered two on one in my mind.

I don't think Maitland and Hogg could believe it when they realised he'd tucked it under his arm and was actually going to stick to the outside.