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Barca are really struggling without Villanova. They got absolutely destroyed by madrid. Varane joint top scorer with CR in these 2 legs while midget messi couldn't even score 1.

6 wins Cherries, congrats!

Still can't get over Bale's goal last night.

Why did Gary O'Neill show him onto his left foot?!?!?! #headsgone

Bale does have 4 STAR WEAK FOOT according to fifa 13 so he would have likely scored with his right foot aswell olly.

I used to have Bale before the reboot. Hulluvaplaar

He's not too shabby with his right must admit Nadz, but no way he would be pinging them in the top bin from 30-35 yards out with it

He needs to join real madrid to fulfill his potential and not stagnate at an above average spurs side. His style of play would be perfect for madrid.

Greatest team ever Bournemouth have lost 3 in a row after losing 2-0 at home to Coventry.

Bournemouth now lie out of the playoffs, in which all but 1 team have games in hand on them.

Bournemouth should walk that league on their budget.

#HoweOut

League One

Morning lads - my son's developed (what we think is) chicken pox, so I'll be off work today/tomorrow/Friday. And obviously knee deep in toys and cadburys buttons

Just can't hack league 1 like he was out of depth in the championship.

Morning,

Azzy, Hope he gets well soon.
On my tactics, I get the Mbia thing, thats my fault in tactics. Way I was it was if Hernanes was to push up Ogbonna would pick him up, if not then yeah hes got a load of space but with his attacking options marked & doubled up on if in possession Hernanes cant win that game himself from AM or even if he did push forward.

Biglia taking out those three

I know Ive got a point there now.
Its frustrating when you implement actions into tactics but you dont get feedback on how they worked/didnt work. For instance,I put a man on Verretti but he was still able to dictate the game. Was it the wrong man to put on him? Is Verretti that good he needs to be doubled up on? Instructions for attacking Vidic, overwhelming him, is he such a beast he can keep up with the pace of two of play attackers coming at him? mark both!? & still not give away a foul?

I see where I went wrong, all in all I was too attacking. I knew my attack is the strongest part of my team so I tried to use that as a form of defense, overwhelm them & take a good lead. That didnt seem to work against Soddy's Falcons. I know for next time when I play him in the League.

#VivaRonaldo back him at 4/1 to score first (£20 profit) & had Real to win 3-0, 3-1 or 3-2 at 14/1 (£22.75 profit) so good night of betting for me.

Anyone think Real may rest players for the weekend match, being way behind in the league & needing to beat us on Tuesday as its there only other piece of silverware realistically up for grabs?

Just the same as I reckon Utd will rest players at the weekend for the Madrid game too Zebs!

Really Utd can put out a reserves side and still (probably) beat us, Madrid don't really have too much to play for league wise, so they can concentrate on the CL now.

No point in either side sending out first XI's and risk getting the likes of RVP and Ronaldo injured

Just the same as I reckon Utd will rest players at the weekend for the Madrid game too Zebs!

But arent playing a major rival Olly.
I was thinking along the line of as Real are playing their biggest rivals on home soil they wouldnt want to lose. So strong team or changed team?
As you said, they dont have much to play for in the league but I cant imagine there fans being happy if they lost on home soil to barca

I stuck Pogba in Verratti face all game ZZZ, seemed to do the job

Jose has two important games. Copa Del Ray v Barca and CL v Man U. Meaningless league game with Barca will see squad rotation. If Barca win La Liga by a mile, and Real win the cup and Champions League, who's had the better season?

Azzy, my daughter has chicken pox, although I'm about to start my PTS (Personal Track Safety, for t'railway n ting) in Birmingham. So while my wife coped with a crying and itchy toddler in the night, I got to sleep in Lenny Henry's bed at Premier Inn.

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:

Just the same as I reckon Utd will rest players at the weekend for the Madrid game too Zebs!

But arent playing a major rival Olly.
I was thinking along the line of as Real are playing their biggest rivals on home soil they wouldnt want to lose. So strong team or changed team?
As you said, they dont have much to play for in the league but I cant imagine there fans being happy if they lost on home soil to barca

I agree with what Marky said. I wouldn't say with the reserves out they are nailed on to lose to Barca at home the way Barca have played recently!

You make a valid point, but at the moment Madrid's priority has to be coming away from Old Trafford with a desirable result and an entry to the next round of the CL. The league is over for them

With Lenny Henry?

Unfortunately not GSC.

I stuck Pogba in Verratti face all game ZZZ, seemed to do the job

Thats annoyed me even more GSC Pogba can manage it but Kroos/Lamps cant.
Thats the last straw. Im officially on tactical strike lol

I understand Madrid's priority thats why I was asking the question. Wasnt sure if their fans would accept a home defeat to their biggest rivals.
But yes the CL is their main objective now.

Well Pogba is more mobile than Lamps and more b2b than Kroos

I was surprised to pick up the win, I thought it would be too close to call. But looking at the results handed in, it was literally a single goal that pushed me over the top on the averages.

I think it's my hardest game done for now, and well played ZZZ. I knew tactically you'd have it spot on.

Hello

Is it me you're looking for?

Well Pogba is more mobile than Lamps and more b2b than Kroos

but hes a kid whos just started to get a few games. Experienced top player like Kroos & Lamps cant do a job a child can do. this is whats wrong with the stupid voting system.

As I said, im on tactical strike. I will now produce on set & copy & paste them every week. Going to take Vivas approach & just come along for the banter. He has the right idea.

Agree with GSC, neither Kroos or Lampard would be suited to virtually man marking Pirlo. I tried it with Asamoah pre his move to Juventus, at AM chasing Pirlo around before the reboot, worked to an extent.

Lampard and Kroos aren't very energetic, they both do their best with the ball at their feet as opposed to using a high workrate.

And as a kid, Pogba has the energy and enthusiasm to chase Veratti around

Agree with GSC, neither Kroos or Lampard would be suited to virtually man marking Pirlo

Marky, Verratti is NOT Pirlo!!! hes another kid who's playing well & showing some talent/promise. He is not a fricking superstar!

Don't say that Zebs, Afro will hunt you down

Sorry Afro, he is Andrea Scholes+ in the making!

Also, Verratti isn't that energetic himself & isn't very strong on the ball at all. Its a joke thats what.

Missing the point Zebs.

Pirlo and Verratti sit infront of the back four and spray passes around. To stop them, you need an energetic box to box midfielder (in many people's opinion anyway). Another great passer of the ball won't be any good.

Rooney was meant to stop Pirlo at the Euro's, was useless at it.

Although I took the chance of ignoring Pirlo for last week's game with Afro concentrating on myself, and it came up in feedback

Pirlo and Verratti sit infront of the back four and spray passes around. To stop them, you need an energetic box to box midfielder (in many people's opinion anyway). Another great passer of the ball won't be any good.

Marky, errrrr Lamps & Kroos can & DO play box to box. I had them both lined up in the perfect position to get on Verratti, he was playing deep & Lamps/Kroos were playing in an advanced mid role.
So what exactly am I missing?

You should have got one of them to cling onto Verratti's cape...

I can't comment. I gave Sod a narrow win, but my vote was based on me thinking that his defence would cope with your attack, better than yours cope with his. The midfield's matched up IMO.

The comment on Biglia is slightly bewildering

This is going to be another "Defoe can't hold the ball up" argument, isn't it?

I hope not. It's also like Coentrao being asked to stay back by his manager and not being very good at it.

All three do seem to have a common factor


But I can see the point on Biglia holding off all three of the Murder attacking trio as slightly unrealistic.

Maybe ZZZ should've made a proper offer for Pogba

You should have got one of them to cling onto Verratti's cape...

This isnt an argument, its a discussion. I need to know where & how to improve.
& also understand how people vote, ultimatly you need to do you tactics to the liking of other people, not your own.

I think it verges on micro analysis and ends up being twisted from what the original author of the comments meant

I try not to take most of the feedback too literally and just look for the areas that they indicate I can improve

sodhat wrote:I think it verges on micro analysis and ends up being twisted from what the original author of the comments meant

I try not to take most of the feedback too literally and just look for the areas that they indicate I can improve

This is very true. You can over analyse, especially as you are getting 6 different opinions.

Last week on my feedback, I gave a what I liked and what I would improve on, for all 6 teams at the end of my feedback. I didn't have the time to do it this week, but I'll look to carry that on as much as possible

Nicked a couple of draws from the 2 best teams in da lee, decent start

Gonna get battered this week tho

being twisted from what the original author of the comments meant

How can you twist "Lampard/Kroos/Pedro is frightening but Biglia is able to prevent them from overunning Atlanta."

Soddy, I dont know where to improve, the following indicate I got things right:
"Murder did their homework stopping the attack of Reus and El Shawaray which blunted the atack of Falcons and work rate of midfield overpowering Falcons"
"Murder dealt well with Reus and El Shaarawy and in Chicharito upfront were able to force the opposing centre backs to stay further back."
"Murder with a nice balance and very good attacking wingers and fullbacks."

The general place where I went wrong was too attacking & messing up by leaving room for Hernanes.
Comments like this don't help: "the attacking flair of the Atalanta trio behind the striker was too much for the Murder defence and that gave them the win"
You may as well just not vote with that poor effort of feedback as it doesn't help anyone, especially when it doesnt add up with the overall vibe of the feedback.
So yes you can over analyses but when a small amount of comments goes against the general consensus I wouldn't call it over analysing.

I see Bournemouth were beaten again last night. Cherries, u mad bro?

I also saw a Crawley player was sent off 50 seconds in!

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:

being twisted from what the original author of the comments meant

How can you twist "Lampard/Kroos/Pedro is frightening but Biglia is able to prevent them from overunning Atlanta."

By putting it in your own context and believing that the writer meant Biglia would single-handedly control the middle against those three. He could have meant that the defensive role meant they weren't able to outnumber us at the back or that he was able to close the space in front of the back four and slow the attacks.

I can't know what they meant for sure, but I'm positive no-one in the PL would be so foolish as to rate Biglia>Lampard, Kroos and Pedro.

Everybody ha a different rating and interpretation of what battles would play out and who would win tbf.

Did you see your result in the FAF, GSC?

That was one tight-ass game.

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:

Pirlo and Verratti sit infront of the back four and spray passes around. To stop them, you need an energetic box to box midfielder (in many people's opinion anyway). Another great passer of the ball won't be any good.

Marky, errrrr Lamps & Kroos can & DO play box to box. I had them both lined up in the perfect position to get on Verratti, he was playing deep & Lamps/Kroos were playing in an advanced mid role.
So what exactly am I missing?

All I meant was Lampard and Kroos are attacking midfielders or deep lying playmakers, neither are a box to box CM (at least by my definition) where they are equally good getting back to defend as they are going forward. Yaya Toure, Sami Khedira, Jack Wilshere...

And even if Lampard was a box to box midfielder like that, he's 34 years old and you're telling him to chase around Verratti for 90 mins!

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:Comments like this don't help: "the attacking flair of the Atalanta trio behind the striker was too much for the Murder defence and that gave them the win"
You may as well just not vote with that poor effort of feedback as it doesn't help anyone, especially when it doesnt add up with the overall vibe of the feedback.
So yes you can over analyses but when a small amount of comments goes against the general consensus I wouldn't call it over analysing.

That was my comment and you are isolating it which takes it out of context

The rest of the comment highlights how closely matched it was and difficult to split the teams, and this is then highlighting that it was the Atalanta Falcons attacking three against your defence (as opposed to yours against his) that just tipped it in his favour.

It isn't poor feedback, it is just that you have taken it as a sole sentance and not considered it within the rest of the paragraph

Every manager except CF can add the additional £1.5m for voting and submitting tactics on time

Aye ill be interested in reading comments for that

I will get them up around lunchtime I think. Lot of copying and pasting and I'm in the middle of emailing a bunch of people.

Jets got fairly soundly beaten. We are totally sending Tebow out there one game.