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Post by Afro Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:11 pm

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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:14 pm

I went for a Jets win. Niners tactics were garbage
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Post by sodhat Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:16 pm

I don't think people bought that we could run the ball on the niners defense and our QB didn't have the arm strength to exploit the long bomb.

We were going to start Tebow and tell him to basically throw it long or pull it down and leg it.

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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:17 pm

He rushed 4. Anyone can run on a 4 man rush. Seems to be a bit of name voting I suspect
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Post by sodhat Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:20 pm

You were literally .4 of a point away from a tie
I think the Vikings are one of the strongest teams now they drafted RG3. If their defence can hold I reckon they will come out of the SFC and deep into the playoffs.

You have a good shot too but you probably need a running back to take the heat from Ben.

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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:21 pm

Eh, thought RG3 would get a lot of name votes
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Post by sodhat Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:22 pm

He probably will, but he also means that they have a 1-2 punch of RG3 and AP, and their wide receivers can actually catch the ball down the field now.

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Post by sodhat Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:31 pm

Has anyone here been to T in the Park in Scotland?

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:43 pm

And even if Lampard was a box to box midfielder like that, he's 34 years old and you're telling him to chase around Pirlo for 90 mins!
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Marky, would you like to read that back to yourself, have a breather, take a moment to compose yourself then think about it?

Pirlo isnt super quick you know, heck I could chase him round a pitch!
What has Lampards age got to do with it? Giggs is old yet is still tearing teams up. Look at Lamps recent form.
Does Lamps not play a box to box role for Chelsea? As I've seen him do it this season....oh wait maybe I was just watching him on FIFA, yep that would be it!
Kroos, is also fully capable of playing box to box. Now just because you saw him line up against Arsenal as an AM it means he cant play any other position but the fact is he can Marky.

That was my comment and you are isolating it which takes it out of context
Sorry Afro, I dont believe thats your comment & your just protecting someone.

Before this gets out of hand I just want to be clear, the loss isn't the problem. The problem is understand the feedback given to improve.

Anyway, ts all opinion, just like the Scholes & Scholes+ discussions are based on opinion. This has gone on enough so im happy to drop it.
Marky, sorry for the sarcastic tone above too Hug

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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 12:47 pm

Carrick can play CB. Clearly it's a good idea to play him there in this league
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Post by Afro Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:00 pm

Did I post and it disappear or did I just forget to post.

Anyway, Kroos has spent much of his Bayern career playing deeper alongside Schwein or Gustavo, with Robben, Ribery and Muller ahead of them. It is only recently he has been pushed further forward.

Same for Germany where he lines up alongside Khedira with Muller, Ozil and Podolski ahead.

He is a great example of a box to box midfield in my opinion and it is what he does best.
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Post by sodhat Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:10 pm

Biglia > the world

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:14 pm

He is a great example of a box to box midfield in my opinion and it is what he does best.
Thank you!

Biglia >>>>>> Andrea Scholes+

InForm Mandzukic on FUT 13 is a beast!! Bagged a hatrick with him on the first match I used him. His positioning in the box is great

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:17 pm

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:
He is a great example of a box to box midfield in my opinion and it is what he does best.
Thank you!

Biglia >>>>>> Andrea Scholes+

InForm Mandzukic on FUT 13 is a beast!! Bagged a hatrick with him on the first match I used him. His positioning in the box is great
See after a good first 4/5 games, he's gone right off the boil for me. I've put Huntelaar back in, I think Mandy went 8 games without a goal. Mario Gomez and Iniesta were carrying my team!

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Post by sodhat Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:18 pm

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:
He is a great example of a box to box midfield in my opinion and it is what he does best.
Thank you!

Biglia >>>>>> Andrea Scholes+

InForm Mandzukic on FUT 13 is a beast!! Bagged a hatrick with him on the first match I used him. His positioning in the box is great

Biglia > InForm Mandzukic

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:30 pm

See after a good first 4/5 games, he's gone right off the boil for me. I've put Huntelaar back in, I think Mandy went 8 games without a goal. Mario Gomez and Iniesta were carrying my team!
Humm. Well Ive used him upfront with Reus behind him, was playing my mate last night & won all 7 matches we player, with Mandy getting a total 14 goals.

One legged Biglia > Hybrid half Cyborg half Andrea Scholes+

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:32 pm

Biglia is going to play for Anderlecht for the rest of his career at this rate, he's never played at the top level, yet gets the most ridiculous ratings ever.

Michael Carrick > Lucas Biglia

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Post by sodhat Wed Feb 27, 2013 1:37 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Biglia is going to play for Anderlecht for the rest of his career at this rate, he's never played at the top level, yet gets the most ridiculous ratings ever.

Michael Carrick > Lucas Biglia

Biglia is above scrutiny, and Belgium is the toughest league in Europe to play in. Stop being biased.

Biglia > Azzy

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:05 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21601682

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers says fatigue is to blame for teenage winger Raheem Sterling losing his "zip".
Can't hear all the apologies from you Sterling lovers over the noise of my favourite Hives song...

music hate to say I told you soooooooooooooooooooo music

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:09 pm

And:
The agent of Sunderland goalkeeper Simon Mignolet is reported to have said that his client might have to move away from the Stadium of Light to realise his interrnational ambitions.

Guy Vandermissen told Belgian broadcaster ATV: "Our ambition is for Simon to play somewhere that he can engage in competition with Thibaut Courtois for the place in goal for Belgium.

"Courtois is fortunate that he is playing for a team that has been doing well lately."
Further proof that O'Neill can only achieve things when he spends oodles of cash. Hope Mignolet gets a big move.

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:10 pm

Azzy, stop being a Bigliaist !!

I said Sterling is poop from time back.
music hate to say I told you soooooooooooooooooooo music

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:13 pm

music I do believe we told you sooooooooooooooooooo music

I do apologise, obviously I'm still hungover from the Party of Worship of Lucas Biglia I hosted for me and 20,000 others at the O2 last night. I'm not thinking straight. I'll be sending Lucas all the profits from last night's soiree so he can afford a decent agent who, you know, won't keep him stuck in waffle country for the rest of his life.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:16 pm

Haha look at you guys proclaiming you were right about Sterling just cos he has had a dip in form #headsgone
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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:18 pm

Yo, I iz a bit confused init!
TP Bid page says "The current limit is £19.5m and it is next due to rise at 12pm on 26th February."
So is the limit £20m now yep?
Im sure AfroJoe said something about putting it up by 1.5m as the 0.5m would make many players available.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:18 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Biglia is going to play for Anderlecht for the rest of his career at this rate, he's never played at the top level, yet gets the most ridiculous ratings ever.

Michael Carrick > Lucas Biglia

Biglia was linked with Norwich in the summer quite heavily. Says a lot about where his career is going Laugh
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Post by Afro Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:20 pm

I never tire of watching this, especially the bit where the guy is repeatedly trying to take the throw in

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:24 pm

Olly wrote:Haha look at you guys proclaiming you were right about Sterling just cos he has had a dip in form #headsgone
Olly if you remember rightly, we said he's not all that, and he'll lose form and fitness after Christmas.

He has done exactly that, strangely enough soon after his agent wangled him a £30k a week contract Rolling Eyes

Yet another footballing mercenary who's not got the courage or determination to really put the effort in. I feel sorry for Liverpool fans.

As for you Olly, you are officially the #headsgone of the 606v2 forum. That is the most embarrassing thing any sports journalist has ever said (this #headsgone nonsense). Utter tripe, it makes Durham and you sound like complete muppets*.










*and I'm not talking Elmo here folks

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:27 pm

Haha look at you guys proclaiming you were right about Sterling just cos he has had a dip in form #headsgone
Dip in form......Olly, to have a dip in form you would have to be in form. Sterling has not been in form all season, he has been "flavor of the month" with some footie fans (mainly Liverpool fans) at best.

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:30 pm

Stewart Downing is currently in much better form than Sterling has been at any point this season - no-one is talking about him though. I think people saw Sterling run fast and just labelled him as the next Ronaldo before actually watching what he does, which isn't very much. Run fast, lose ball, run fast, cross to no-one, run fast, wait where the hell am I, oh yeah, pass to...darn, we lost it.

Downing for England!

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Post by Afro Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:35 pm

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:Yo, I iz a bit confused init!
TP Bid page says "The current limit is £19.5m and it is next due to rise at 12pm on 26th February."
So is the limit £20m now yep?
Im sure AfroJoe said something about putting it up by 1.5m as the 0.5m would make many players available.

It is £20m, I just haven't updated it yet. Thanks for the reminder.

The boost will be that in 2 weeks it will go up to £21m as there is no point to going to £20.5m I don't think, given the players valuations
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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:38 pm

Tbh, I just generally assume all liverpool players are overhyped in the media.
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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:38 pm

Stewart Downing is currently in much better form than Sterling has been at any point this season
My god that speaks volumes.

Azzy has a point. Lot of people just see a player run fast & BOOM hes good. Walcott has taken 6 seasons at a top prem club just be half decent. All he does i run fast, lose ball, run fast, cross to no-one, run fast, Oh wait im one on one good finish, then rinse & repeat.

Alex OxCube was flavou of the month before. He can run fast too & everyone banged on about him like hes Lucas Biglia!!! The Cube does have better technical promise than Sterling & Walcott did at that age so I consider him a better prospect.
But back to the point, the Run Fast illusion fools a lot of people.

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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:40 pm

Same reason NFL teams draft players with great measurables and poor instincts. Can coach a player to be a better footballer, can't coach speed.
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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:44 pm

Can coach a player to be a better footballer, can't coach speed.
Very true point GSC. Sadly if the player doesnt have a brain you cant coach them to do diddly squat.

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:50 pm

Oxo Cube won't make the grade, I'm sure of it. He's done nothing for nearly a year now, which at this age is frightening for his prospects.

Sterling was overhyped.

Walcott I still don't rate, but he is getting closer to being the player he was hyped to be as a teenager.

Others have come and gone - Freddy Adu, Stephen Ireland, Jerome Thomas...plenty of kids out there who were the next big thing, but never did the job. And Sterling will be the next one.

While Zaha, on the other hand, will be a huge success OK

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:51 pm

Also, there's no-one at the £21m TM rank that I'd want in my team...we may as well do away with TP limits Laugh

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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:52 pm

Of course one of these prospects we're putting down is currently verging on world class, in Gareth Bale.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:59 pm

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:Azzy has a point. Lot of people just see a player run fast & BOOM hes good.

I do take that point on board Zebs as I have made that mistake in the past.

Omar Koroma made a sterling debut for Norwich, he had pace and I was like wow he's got something. Unfortunately as far as I know 5 years down the line he's still yet to score a professional goal (striker) and got sent off 33 minutes into his Forest Green debut Laugh

You see a bit of pace, it brings excitement, something different to the table
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Post by sodhat Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:01 pm

Oxo is a better player and will be a better player than either Walcott or Sterling.

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Post by sodhat Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:02 pm

Walcott has made me eat my words a little this year by being alright in patches, but I still say he's overhyped and can't actually use his pace on the ball.

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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:06 pm

Ishmael Miller was one for us. Did well at City as an 18/19 year old, came to us on loan, and on his debut scored one of the best goals in Albion history. Cyrille Regis-esque. We all thought we'd found the new Pele. But now he's struggling to get a game in the Championship.

I never put Bale down, ever. Spurs were stupid to ever play him at LB, if Southampton convert Luke Shaw to LW now he'll have the same career trajectory as Bale I reckon.

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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:06 pm

Mowbray loves Miller.
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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:07 pm

Can throw Ronaldo into another of the physically gifted prospects that were bought raw and developed. Potential massive reward.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:08 pm

Yes, and that's why he's managing a Championship club with Championship-calibre players and Championship ambitions. He's another manager who's tactically naive and who sticks with players even when they're so desperately out of form. Used to drive us nuts the way he'd play the same 11 week in, week out.

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:08 pm

Oxo Cube won't make the grade, I'm sure of it. He's done nothing for nearly a year now, which at this age is frightening for his prospects.
Agree. Think he made a poor decision to go to Arsenal. All he had to do was look at the age Walcott joined them & where he is now. There would of been better club to join.
I dont know why you would pick a club who hasnt won a trophy since 2005, can no longer compete for major honors & sells their best players.
Scott Sinclar f'ed up by doing to City. How many games has be started/played this season anyone?
Rodwell too. He played will in his start against Chelsea tho ill give him that.
Ravel Morrison is another waste player.
Arron Lennon, big things expected when he was at Leed, Run Fast!! & he still cant cross.

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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:09 pm

Done a decent job with Boro though they've gone down the toilet recently.
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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:09 pm

Scott Sinclair was never good.
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Post by GSC Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:10 pm

And tbf, Lennon is pretty dangerous when hes on. Overshadowed by Bale though.
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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:21 pm

Ive not once put Bale down for his football. For his ape like looks, diving & the fact he went to Spuds over Man United I have.

GSC, Ronaldo could be yes. You could see with Ronaldo there was a drive & determination. Bale has that too.
I dont see that in the likes of Walcott, Ox or Sterling.
All I see from Walcott is a child in the school play ground moaning because he cant play up front.
Sturridge is another one. Just moaned at Chelsea because they didnt play him as a striker. Instead why didnt he just get his head down & work hard. No drive & determination to make it big.

Scott Sinclair was never good.
Agreed. But there was some potential.
Lennon doesnt have enough "on" days to be rated imo.

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Post by Afro Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:27 pm

Players in the league list is updated.

Once again, can everyone please ensure they confirm all transfers, whether they are domestics, TPs, Lawyers or Releases as that page is the lone source that I use to update the players list and there were some missing that I had to go hunting for.
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Post by Guest Wed Feb 27, 2013 3:29 pm

I always confirm my transfers, as I don't want my signings taken away from me. Which should happen to those people who didn't confirm, eh Affers?

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