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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:48 am

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Breaking News: Gloucester smash their way into the top 4 for the first time this season, beating local rivals Bath at The Rec. Worcester move up one place condemning Wasps to the bottom of the table after a bonus point win over their relegation rivals.

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5 Homepage 12Sale Sharks17 10 0 7 432 405 +27 47 41 2 7 49
6 Homepage 50London Welsh17 8 3 6 401 382 +19 43 36 0 6 44
7 Homepage 9Northampton Saints1781 8 425 415 +10 45 43 2 7 43
8 Homepage 5London Irish178 0 9 425 422 +3 45 42 2 8 42
9 Homepage 1Bath Rugby1780 9 402 410 -8 39 44 0 7 39
10 Homepage 11Saracens1741 12 354 430 -76 31 47 0 624
11 Homepage 57Worcester Warriors1731 13 369 415 -46 32 45 1 7 22
12 Homepage 6London Wasps 1720 15 335 439 -104 29 50 0 11 19






Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Driver Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:55 am

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:03 pm

why do people still mark these threads. I know you had to do it on 606 but what is it's purpose on here?

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:12 pm

Ah scrum v classics....grand slam 2005!!
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:24 pm

Wasps side: No Swainston is big news. Poff in at 7 with Jones moving to 8 rather than AJ.

15. Hugo Southwell
14. Christian Wade
13. Elliot Daly
12. Chris Bell
11. Tom Varndell
10. Stephen Jones
9. Joe Simpson

1. Zak Taulafo
2. T Rhys Thomas
3. Will Taylor
4. James Cannon
5. Marco Wentzel
6. Ashley Johnson
7. Jonathan Poff
8. Sam Jones

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17. Simon McIntyre
18. Lorenzo Romano
19. Alex Rae
20. Matt Everard
21. Charlie Davies
22. Nick Robinson
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Post by DHLS07 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:27 pm

Can't wait for the Bulls v Stormers later. Will be some massive collisions in that one.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:28 pm

Sam Jones has been playing very well last few weeks - when Stephen Jones plays we usually win, as I think he's currently on something like 92% kick success rate and we score a lot of tries in the corners!

Pretty happy with that team - Swainston a loss, but to have Poff back is a big bonus. Haven't seen Romano play, but meant to be a very good scrummager.

From our bench though you can see we havent got the greatest depth - sure Rae and Hayter are loans from the Championship to help us through at the moment.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:29 pm

DHL, who are the players to watch out for in this year's S15? I have to admit I don't watch a lot of it, as not the biggest fan of the style of play, but am going to try and watch a lot more this year.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:37 pm

I fancy the stormers in that one, just seem to have added more to their team. Although last year they played some dull rugby.

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Post by DHLS07 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:38 pm

Arno Botha from the Bulls is a young back row who looks as if he will be an excellent player. Stormers have a few young guys who look good and should get some games this season. Nizaam Carr hopefully will play a bit although their back row will be competitive.

My knowledge on the Australian and New Zealand sides isn't as good as on the South African sides.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:39 pm

I think if we win the pack battle we can win. And looking at our pack, it is huge and could get the upper hand. Lahiff, Aulika, Skiv, Garvey, Trev, Hala'ufia are all units.

We need to stop you getting good clean ball as your backline can do some real damage. Likewise if Yarde and Ojo are given space. Tagi to come on is important as against tired legs he can be dominant.

Should be a close one.

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Post by DHLS07 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:40 pm

Fluxy the Stormers will play a more expansive game this season I think as they won't have Grant at 10, who was effectively a poorer version of Morne Steyn. Steyn gets away with not having lots of strings to his bow as he is actually very good at what he does. Grant not so much. Stormers now have Jantjies who is a much more attacking player.

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Post by dammit_chris Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:48 pm

What's the team you have put out Nick? If conditions aren't wet and it doesnt rain during the game then I would hope our style of play would get us the win, we havent played that well against Quins or Gloucester the last few weeks, but managed to just about win!

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 12:51 pm

1 Lahiff
2 Lawson
3 Aulika
4 Evans
5 Skivington
6 Garvey
7 Treviranus
8 Hala'ufia
9 Phibbs
10 Humphreys
11 Yarde
12 Geraghty
13 Armitage
14 Ojo
15 Homer

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17 McGregor
18 Hala'vatu
19 Low
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22 Moates
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 22 Feb 2013, 1:11 pm

Any news on how Sa is getting on with you guys Nick?

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Post by DHLS07 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 1:15 pm

We should find out if Oscar Pistorius will get bail shortly. Mad turn of events that.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Feb 2013, 1:30 pm

I've been pretty unimpressed with Jantjies tbh, I'm not sure he'll be such a big hit.

Stormers have a great pack though.

Similar with the Sharks, although they'll miss BdP who's not back for a few more months yet. Think it'll be close to a year when he finally gets fully back, hope he comes back fit.

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Post by DHLS07 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 1:35 pm

Sharks I think are going to be missing a few players at the start of the campaign, and I think they might struggle a bit early on. I expect the Bulls to be stronger this year though, and it will be between them and the Stormers who win the conference. Jantjies will do well at the Stormers. Their pack will give him and excellent platform to play, more than the Lions did, and he has the ability to get his outside backs playing. I think the order will be Stormers, Bulls, Sharks/Cheetahs, Kings.

Cheetahs could spring some surprises and I wouldn't be totally surprised if they finish above the Sharks this year.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Feb 2013, 1:41 pm

Cheetahs just seem to have a small squad, their best XV looks good but a injuries and they could struggle I think.

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Post by DHLS07 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 1:45 pm

Yeah, none of the squads are massive, but Cheetahs do lack the depth of the Bulls or Stormers. Sharks have a bit better depth than the Cheetahs, but they too could have some problems if injuries hit. I think the Bulls and Stormers will be close, but then a big gap to whoever finishes 3rd in the conference.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 22 Feb 2013, 1:57 pm

Will be close between Bulls, Sharks and Stormers I reckon.

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:03 pm

Sa hasnt played yet. Reckon his first appearance will be Worcester game.

Big things expected of him but I would probably hold out on playing him until next season when he has a run of games.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:35 pm

DHL it's probably the weakest part of their team the halfbacks. Everywhere else has internationally quality players. Interested to see how a number of their lads do for players on the other game.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:37 pm

Haven't even considered playing him Nick would get crucified. Just deciding whether hes worth holding on to. Will be keenly watching the Worcester game so!

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:45 pm

I'd see how he gets on the rest of this season then make a decision.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Feb 2013, 2:50 pm

Saints still chasing a 10

http://m.northantstelegraph.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/northampton-saints-boss-mallinder-in-the-market-for-flexible-fly-half-1-4814395

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 6:20 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I've been pretty unimpressed with Jantjies tbh, I'm not sure he'll be such a big hit.

Stormers have a great pack though.

Similar with the Sharks, although they'll miss BdP who's not back for a few more months yet. Think it'll be close to a year when he finally gets fully back, hope he comes back fit.

Any chance you could pop on tomorrow Pooly and slate a couple more of my players! Laugh Wink
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Post by Driver Fri 22 Feb 2013, 6:26 pm

http://www.newcastlefalcons.co.uk/news/story/seaton-carew-visit-for-chris-york-and-oliver-tomaszczyk


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Feb 2013, 6:41 pm

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Sgt_Pooly wrote:I've been pretty unimpressed with Jantjies tbh, I'm not sure he'll be such a big hit.

Stormers have a great pack though.

Similar with the Sharks, although they'll miss BdP who's not back for a few more months yet. Think it'll be close to a year when he finally gets fully back, hope he comes back fit.

Any chance you could pop on tomorrow Pooly and slate a couple more of my players! Laugh Wink

I thought Jantjies was at Irish. It's not on purpose!

I don't rate him though, but I don't predo so it doesn't matter lol

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Post by stnick88 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 6:54 pm

I had him at Irish but he got sold after I left

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 7:36 pm

I can't remember which Irish manager I bought him off, I think it might have been pull.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 7:45 pm

About to watch the rugby league world club championship game between Leeds and Melbourne Storm, this could be a monster of a game.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 9:26 pm

This game is unbelievable. Some of the handling and defence is ridiculous.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 10:45 pm

Just watching the Highlanders vs. Chiefs game from earlier and Ben Smith has scored a quality try. Serious offload from Sopoaga to him and a great pick up.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 10:48 pm

Wow, Tim Nanai-Williams reply for the Chiefs not bad either. Nonu rushes up and doesn't make it and he gasses him on the outside then and outrageous step to goose Ben Smith and he's in.
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Post by Driver Fri 22 Feb 2013, 10:49 pm

What a day for my Dodgy box to go funny!
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 10:51 pm

I heard earlier that Big Ben T comes off the bench to play hooker!!! Can't wait to see that if it's true, that would make one properly heavy front row.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 10:53 pm

Interesting that Cruden not kicking for the Chiefs. Gareth Anscombe playing full back and nailing them off the tee for them.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 10:57 pm

Sam Cane butchered a try scoring chance with 2 men outside him by cutting back inside and going for the glory. Highlanders defence been poor in the opening 25 minutes.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:00 pm

Nonu has had a poor first half hour here. All over the place in defence and his passing has been shocking.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:09 pm

Sounds a cracker Pete, TNW is seriously talented, could be a great 13 if defence is good

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Post by Fluxy Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:11 pm

I like Anscombe, hiding him at 15 could be a great shout as he was frail in defence at ten, almost Cipriani like.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:14 pm

And after I slated Nonu, he comes up with a lovely fizzed pass which creates a massive hole in the build up to a try for Hosea gear just before the break.

Some good attacking play from both sides, but also some naive defence. TNW playing well, looks threatening ball in hand.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:24 pm

I know the majority of players, even top pros are better passing right to left, but Aaron Smith's passing left to right has been particularly poor in this game. Really loopy and no fizz to it.
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Post by Driver Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:28 pm

Strange that it is , Smith usually has top quality service.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:32 pm

TNW just missed a first up tackle and Poki goes straight in for the try for the Highlanders. Defence has been not good from either side here.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:34 pm

His service passing right to left has been good. Nice fizzing passes, just left to right his radar has been off a bit.
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Post by Driver Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:35 pm

Kahn Fotoual'i played wing tonight for Ospreys.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 22 Feb 2013, 11:41 pm

Cruden just got munched in a tackle.
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Post by Guest Sat 23 Feb 2013, 12:00 am

If you get at smith he goes to pieces is what most think in Nz. To be honest how many times do people get chance to get at ab scrum half.
Love his service.
Most kiwi pundits think tj perenara is the golden kid at 9. For me have to do a lot to get past smith who is a brilliant front foot 9. He is young and will learn about Blackfoot ball.

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