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Malignaggi V Broner in June
Thoughts? I like it. Malignaggi one of my favourite fighters at the moment.
http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/177519-broner-malignaggi-possible-for-june
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The press conferences will be more competitive than the fight.
Paulie KO10 in the pressers. Broner to reverse that in the ring.
Paulie KO10 in the pressers. Broner to reverse that in the ring.
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Re: Malignaggi V Broner in June
Malignaggi is pretty underrated on here. He's lost to Cotto Hatton and Khan (plus the robbery againt Diaz). As the article says, it would be a massive step up for Broner in terms of class and weight.
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Don't rate Malignaggi anywhere near as highly as most others, interesting personality and excellent pundit though he is. Nigh-on every time he's stepped up he's lost and, more worryingly, not really performed at all. Presumably the fight will, at the very least, be made at a catchweight between Light-Welter and Welter, so he does at least have experience at the higher weight on his side, but I think Broner will be all over him from the off, after which point Paulie will become more and more negative. I suspect he might grab, back-peddle and spoil enough to go the full twelve but I can see Broner's punch volume and power allowing him to run away with a wide decision. If Paulie is as bad as he was against Hatton then he'll be lucky to make it out of the middle rounds.
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Re: Malignaggi V Broner in June
Paulie is at 147 and Broner is at 135. Not sure why he would jump up 12 pounds to fight Paulie. Not exactly being clambered for, is it?
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Re: Malignaggi V Broner in June
Bit of a joke really. Paulie is well known but other than that what's the point in Broner fighting him.
Another soft fight for Broner. Seems to be following The Mayweather Jr blueprint in more ways than one.
Another soft fight for Broner. Seems to be following The Mayweather Jr blueprint in more ways than one.
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I hate it............No no no no.............
Useless boring slapper that got owned by Khan,,,,,,,,,,,fighting Broner..............
Waste.........of.......time
Useless boring slapper that got owned by Khan,,,,,,,,,,,fighting Broner..............
Waste.........of.......time
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Re: Malignaggi V Broner in June
I think Paulie is underated - his win against Scenchenko was excellent.
you cant imagine that Broner would have any size difference and if Paulie continues his current run, this could be a 50/50 fight for my money.
you cant imagine that Broner would have any size difference and if Paulie continues his current run, this could be a 50/50 fight for my money.
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I think Paulie is underrated
Wow he beat Sevchenko............lost to Hatton, Cotto and khan by stoppage..
and people like this fight....He can't punch!!! What chance has he got??
Wow he beat Sevchenko............lost to Hatton, Cotto and khan by stoppage..
and people like this fight....He can't punch!!! What chance has he got??
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Re: Malignaggi V Broner in June
looking at Senchenkos face after the Paulie fight, I would disagree that he cant punch.
He doesnt have one punch knockout power, but that doesnt mean he wont get outboxed.
And Senchenko floored Hatton, so I feel to see the logic of the loss to Hatton. Broner is unproved at that level against a guy who like Rees comes to fight but is a lot more elusive.
He doesnt have one punch knockout power, but that doesnt mean he wont get outboxed.
And Senchenko floored Hatton, so I feel to see the logic of the loss to Hatton. Broner is unproved at that level against a guy who like Rees comes to fight but is a lot more elusive.
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You honestly think Paulie can punch?? 32 wins 7 by ko..............
well say no more...
well say no more...
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88Chris05 wrote:Don't rate Malignaggi anywhere near as highly as most others, interesting personality and excellent pundit though he is. Nigh-on every time he's stepped up he's lost and, more worryingly, not really performed at all. Presumably the fight will, at the very least, be made at a catchweight between Light-Welter and Welter, so he does at least have experience at the higher weight on his side, but I think Broner will be all over him from the off, after which point Paulie will become more and more negative. I suspect he might grab, back-peddle and spoil enough to go the full twelve but I can see Broner's punch volume and power allowing him to run away with a wide decision. If Paulie is as bad as he was against Hatton then he'll be lucky to make it out of the middle rounds.
Stipulation is 147 only.
Malignaggi is a great boxer and in his last 5 or 6 fights has found some 'pop' in his punches. Legal or not it makes him an interesting opponent for Broner.
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You honestly think Paulie can punch?? 32 wins 7 by ko..............
well say no more...
At one point PM was very vocal against PED's....
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I don't think it's a terrible fight, but I imagine Broner's going to overwhelm him, it's going to be his first fight at 147, annoyed that he won't be fighting at 140, some great fights to be made there and I reckon he would have cleaned it up and built a real legacy.
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Would be nothing more than a stop gap to fil lthe time for others to clear there diary as there are alot of fights being lined up atm and a chance at a name that will help sell it. Don't think malignaggi will pose too many problems for "the problem" but Rees speed got to Broenr early and malignaggi has the footwork and jab to make Broner work as he is pretty flat footed as he is always planting his feet to get power
He said that no Burns/Vasquez winner then he will move up in weight and given the postponement of that fight he may just have given up in that
Couldn't it be made for may 4th? Not sure is high key enough to help carry the card after Canelo's withdrawal. My preference would be Matthysse or Peterson atm of they haven't agreed to fight each other yet
He said that no Burns/Vasquez winner then he will move up in weight and given the postponement of that fight he may just have given up in that
Couldn't it be made for may 4th? Not sure is high key enough to help carry the card after Canelo's withdrawal. My preference would be Matthysse or Peterson atm of they haven't agreed to fight each other yet
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Re: Malignaggi V Broner in June
Does anybody think that this is a ploy to force Khan into fighting Broner. Khan is fighting at 143lbs presumably with the idea of going to 147lbs in the near future. Paulie has generally been seen as the gatekeeper for divisions in the past.
Broner's camp will argue that they both beat Paulie,that they're both now at 147lbs, both young and both multi weight world champions....
Broner's camp will argue that they both beat Paulie,that they're both now at 147lbs, both young and both multi weight world champions....
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Re: Malignaggi V Broner in June
It will also give Broner a massive exposure in the UK which at the moment he doens't have outside of committed boxing fans.
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Purely in boxing terms PM at 147 is much toughedr ask than Burns at 135
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I thought Broner said on twitter a few days ago his next fight was on April 20th.
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Re: Malignaggi V Broner in June
Malignaggi or Burns its an easy nights work for Broner.
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Strongback wrote:Malignaggi or Burns its an easy nights work for Broner.
That's purely because Broner is so good, not that they are bad opponents, we should remind ourselves.
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I thought Broner would have a few fights at light welter and pick up a title before moving to welter
I believe Broner has said he wouldn't fight Mayweather but after 2 or 3 wins at welter we'll be be back to a Mayweather v Pacquaio predicament unless they're rushing Broner up for the Mayweather fight.
I believe Broner has said he wouldn't fight Mayweather but after 2 or 3 wins at welter we'll be be back to a Mayweather v Pacquaio predicament unless they're rushing Broner up for the Mayweather fight.
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Re: Malignaggi V Broner in June
Can anybody tell me how Paulie can win............Slower, not as skilled, punches softer........
Not looking to good is it..
Let's have Rees 2 instead..
Not looking to good is it..
Let's have Rees 2 instead..
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Can anybody tell me how Paulie can win............Slower, not as skilled, punches softer........
Not looking to good is it..
Let's have Rees 2 instead..
Paulie cannot win. Simple. Pointless fight.
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I want to clarify that I think it is pointless because of the fact it won't be comeptitive, or entertaining and the fans don't want it. Also, it involves Broner skipping an entire weight class. Just unecessary
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you can see why they want this fight. malignaggi is an excellent promoter, who will get people talking about broner, and sell the fight to a wider audience than broner is used to. im sure malignaggi will get a good figure for simply trying to box awkward and survive.
but i agree with the above, paulie cant win and i would much rather see broner look for a competitive fight
but i agree with the above, paulie cant win and i would much rather see broner look for a competitive fight
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Do you really believe that Broner is that far ahead of Paulie?
Broner will have to put on major weight to be at the right size to not have a disadvantage.
With weight gain comes a reduction in speed.
And then Paulie will fight a style that Broner will have to go looking for. Paulie can counter punch to his hearts content.
I really think that this is a major test for Broner.
Broner will have to put on major weight to be at the right size to not have a disadvantage.
With weight gain comes a reduction in speed.
And then Paulie will fight a style that Broner will have to go looking for. Paulie can counter punch to his hearts content.
I really think that this is a major test for Broner.
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paulie lost his last fight in most peoples eyes. to a guy who had not long come up from lightweight. paulie is no welterweight, he only moved up because he had exhausted his options at light welter
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It's only 12lb and Broner is huge at LW anyway.
One-sided pointless fight. I don't expect to see Broner challenge himself until Floyd retires and he'll take over as p4p number one being selective with his opposition like Floyd was/is.
One-sided pointless fight. I don't expect to see Broner challenge himself until Floyd retires and he'll take over as p4p number one being selective with his opposition like Floyd was/is.
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:It's only 12lb and Broner is huge at LW anyway.
One-sided pointless fight. I don't expect to see Broner challenge himself until Floyd retires and he'll take over as p4p number one being selective with his opposition like Floyd was/is.
agree
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Good fight, Yes Paulie has a weakness with his punch power but is a very skilled boxer. He is a good gate keeper as while he had fallen short against world class opposition he has also shone on his day and you need to be a good boxer to beat him.
While Broner will probably be the favorite going up a weight against an experienced boxer like Paulie is a test.
That being said Paulie did seem to tire in his last fight so either he may have had a poor camp or he is aging a little...
While Broner will probably be the favorite going up a weight against an experienced boxer like Paulie is a test.
That being said Paulie did seem to tire in his last fight so either he may have had a poor camp or he is aging a little...
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Seanusarrilius wrote:TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Can anybody tell me how Paulie can win............Slower, not as skilled, punches softer........
Not looking to good is it..
Let's have Rees 2 instead..
Paulie cannot win. Simple. Pointless fight.
Paulie is a world belt holder. How on earth is a world champion having a fight now pointless? Should Paulie defend against Matty Hatton?
I don't think its as easy as many make out also. Its a huge jump for Broner seeing as he was fighting at 130 months ago. Paulie is 147 albeit small at that weight. Paulie has skills, speed to match Broner and is proven to be a tough mofo. Broney has never had to tough things out or get confused. He's good, but Paulie will make it competitive.
Here's hoping for a Paulie win anyway.
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Adam D wrote:Do you really believe that Broner is that far ahead of Paulie?
Broner will have to put on major weight to be at the right size to not have a disadvantage.
With weight gain comes a reduction in speed.
And then Paulie will fight a style that Broner will have to go looking for. Paulie can counter punch to his hearts content.
I really think that this is a major test for Broner.
Spot on. For some Broney has to fight a Floyd or Pac or its pointless. Maybe a Brit will make it interesting.
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Paulie took a one sided battering off Khan..........How the heck does he compete with Broner???
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Paulie took a one sided battering off Khan..........How the heck does he compete with Broner???
So a world champion fighting is a bad idea. Well why not get him defend against Carlos Roadsweeper or Cletus SlackJaw.
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Never heard of Carlos Roadsweeper is he any good?? Better puncher than Paulie I'm sure..
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He's been in with a load of trash.
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Good one...
I'm all for Broner fighting other champions but I'd rather he fought one with any asset that Broner might find difficult to cope with.....
I'm all for Broner fighting other champions but I'd rather he fought one with any asset that Broner might find difficult to cope with.....
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Easy nights work for paulie and an easy UD for Paulie
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Good one...
I'm all for Broner fighting other champions but I'd rather he fought one with any asset that Broner might find difficult to cope with.....
Well he wont be able to push Paulie around. How will be be able to take a punch against a WW even a soft hitting one. I think its a good matchup for both guys and it will tell us if he can hang with the bigger guys. From SFW to WW in 12 months is a big jump in any language.
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victorgarco wrote:Easy nights work for paulie and an easy UD for Paulie
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Broner should clear up 135 then 140, no point in going there straight away.
As for the fight Broner wins UD or TKO late.
As for the fight Broner wins UD or TKO late.
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Love to see Broner vs Abril, that would be interesting!
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AlexHuckerby wrote:Strongback wrote:Malignaggi or Burns its an easy nights work for Broner.
That's purely because Broner is so good, not that they are bad opponents, we should remind ourselves.
People keep making that mistake with Mayweather..
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It's going to take a dig to get rid of Broner........Poor old Paulie outclassed by Khan...stopped by Hatton..
and this is a good fight according to some respected posters and one idiot.
and this is a good fight according to some respected posters and one idiot.
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paulie was awful in his last fight. the worst ive seen him. did anybody actually see it?
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Paulie might be a 'world champion' but he is about as far from being the man at the weight as possible...
Can't punch, Broner matches him for size and is more skilful.
Can't punch, Broner matches him for size and is more skilful.
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:Paulie might be a 'world champion' but he is about as far from being the man at the weight as possible...
Can't punch, Broner matches him for size and is more skilful.
Does that make him a bad call for Broners first fight at the weight? Even if Broner is in a lot of peoples p4p lists that's not his fault, in reality he's a young fighter in his early 20s still below 30 fights taking a not inconsiderable step up in weight.
With all that said is Paulie, who may not be The man at The weight but is far from The worst and a bonafide belt holder, the worst fight as he tests himself for the first time at the weight?
All that said I do find it odd that he hasn't attempted to clean out LW or even make a fist of LWW before moving up
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One advantage of this fighter is being able to get a proper look at Broner. What PM lacks in power he makes up for in chin. He has pretty slick boxing skills meaning we'll see whether Broner has the PBF talent of working a fighter out and out-boxing him and we'll see it over 10 rounds minimum - PM went the distance with Cotto, and to the 11th with Khan and Hatton - all proven world level operators well settled at the weight.
Some fairly soft match-making has meant Broner hasn't gone the distance since Ponce de Leon, I for one would like to see him showcase his skills over 12 rounds of action not a 3 round blow-out against some over-matched patsy.
Some fairly soft match-making has meant Broner hasn't gone the distance since Ponce de Leon, I for one would like to see him showcase his skills over 12 rounds of action not a 3 round blow-out against some over-matched patsy.
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