What no BOD stamp thread?

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Had it been by any other player to any other nation than Italy, this thread would be buzzing with those calling for his head and those vehemently arguing that St Brian is incapable of sin. Just saying

[GunsGerms]

Hore and Thomson seemed to get a lot of negative press and much of it warranted, though by no means all. Healy and BOD don't seem to have attracted nearly as much attention but BOD will get some sort of ban for his dangerous play just as Healy did and rightly so.

But no need to label them as psychopaths or representative of their teams lawlessness in general. Not when they came 5th and lost to Italy. That's how far Ireland have tumbled this year.

What?!? There were numerous articles in the British press and campaigns to see Healy punished. He also received hate mail. BBC must have replayed the incident 50 times. Not sure how it could have attracted more attention.

Ashton stamped on a Welsh arm in the GS finale and seems to have gotten away with out any mention at all. Interesting how BBC didnt feel the need to show any replays at all.

Not that concerned about Ireland especially given that they at least showed that they can still beat the best teams (Wales). They had the worst injury list of anyone in the tournament which got even worse as the tournament progressed. By the time we played Italy there were at least 15 capped players injured. No team can cope with that, yet no team managed to beat Ireland by more than a score. Italy, England and Scotland all copped at least one hammering.

This year was the most competitive 6N in history. Someone had to finish 2nd last. Injuries took their toll and it was Ireland this year.

[Glas a du]

You couldn't see his foot that's why.

[maestegmafia]

Hore and Thomson seemed to get a lot of negative press and much of it warranted, though by no means all. Healy and BOD don't seem to have attracted nearly as much attention but BOD will get some sort of ban for his dangerous play just as Healy did and rightly so.

But no need to label them as psychopaths or representative of their teams lawlessness in general. Not when they came 5th and lost to Italy. That's how far Ireland have tumbled this year.

What?!? There were numerous articles in the British press and campaigns to see Healy punished. He also received hate mail. BBC must have replayed the incident 50 times. Not sure how it could have attracted more attention.

Ashton stamped on a Welsh arm in the GS finale and seems to have gotten away with out any mention at all. Interesting how BBC didnt feel the need to show any replays at all.

Case in point and summarised perfectly.

[thomh]

Healy violently came down on Cole's ankle. I can't really see Ashton's foot making contact with Roberts at all there.

[maestegmafia]

Healy violently came down on Cole's ankle. I can't really see Ashton's foot making contact with Roberts at all there.

I do not think Healy acted violently, carelessly maybe. No different can be said for Ashton. Though i would say that Ashton trying to pull big Jamie Roberts out of a ruck by his face and neck is a violent act. He then joins the ruck and either shoe's Roberts or Knee's Tipuric hard to tell which without fifty or so slow motion replays making it look horrific and violent.

Definite citing.

[LondonTiger]

Healy violently came down on Cole's ankle. I can't really see Ashton's foot making contact with Roberts at all there.

I see Ashton make contact with the ball, with any contact with Roberts (and tuilagi) being incidental to that and minimal. I believe I am making a fair viewing of the footage - but I am not impartial. Others, equally non-impartial see something different.

The citing officer who remember is INDEPENDENT (unlike every poster on here, me included, who has some axe to grind) will view the whole match and decide.

As to why it was not replayed - most probably because no-one among the pundits nor the production crew even noticed it. After all the producers (who were not English) were far too busy showing people wearing sponge daffodils.

[maestegmafia]

Healy violently came down on Cole's ankle. I can't really see Ashton's foot making contact with Roberts at all there.

I see Ashton make contact with the ball, with any contact with Roberts (and tuilagi) being incidental to that and minimal. I believe I am making a fair viewing of the footage - but I am not impartial. Others, equally non-impartial see something different.

The citing officer who remember is INDEPENDENT (unlike every poster on here, me included, who has some axe to grind) will view the whole match and decide.

As to why it was not replayed - most probably because no-one among the pundits nor the production crew even noticed it. After all the producers (who were not English) were far too busy showing people wearing sponge daffodils.

If you can't see Ashton stamping on Roberts what about the head grabbing of Roberts by Ashton prior to the stamping...?

[SecretFly]

Do you think it's harmed his Lions captaincy chances Fly?

I'm not trying to be offensive Glas...but I truly don't care about his Lions chances. The way he played this season showed me his heart was in the right place when some of his comrades might have had half their hearts on the prospects of said Lions seats.

The Lions will look after themselves and choose accordingly. I'm on record as not caring so much for the Lions whilst respecting other people's views who love it.

O'Driscoll is an Irish player first and foremost (and I personally feel that's the shirt he should finally end his International career in) He went red-mist on the day and will rightly pay a price. But I have been so proud of his old warrior ways this season....even in abject failure. That's enough for me. If Lions don't want a warrior of his ilk with them this time, so be it. That's their decision. I'd still have him in my Irish team - on merit - the one totally falling apart before our eyes.

[wales606]

Do you think it's harmed his Lions captaincy chances Fly?

I think discipline has harmed both BOD and Healy's Lions chances this 6Ns - especially when they have JD2/Tuilagi and Gethin Jenkins respectively breathing down their necks.

[Glas a du]

No offence taken Fly

[rodders]

Do you think it's harmed his Lions captaincy chances Fly?

I think discipline has harmed both BOD and Healy's Lions chances this 6Ns - especially when they have JD2/Tuilagi and Gethin Jenkins respectively breathing down their necks.

Sean O'Brien and BOD are the only 2 Irishmen with a shot of touring on merit now after this woeful campaign.

BODs stamp for sure is the final nail in any slim captaincy chances he had but given the lack of stand out centres BOD should make the plane if not the test side.

[Glas a du]

Healy, Best, Ryan, O'Brien, Murray, Sexton, Marshall, BOD and Kearney will tour Rodders, at the very least...

[LondonTiger]

If you can't see Ashton stamping on Roberts what about the head grabbing of Roberts by Ashton prior to the stamping...?

I see a good lineout take by Croft.
A god awfull pass by Youngs forcing Manu to pick up a bouncing ball and drive into roberts.
Roberts is one side of Manu, Tipuric on the other and Cole and Ashton drive into Roberts while it is a maul.
The whole thing collapses and Ashtons left arm is caught under Roberts head.
I can see why people such as yourself claim Ashton then pulls roberts by the head, especially with his record, but honestly I think he is just pulling his arm free.
Ashton then raises his foot 3 times and brings it down. Twice it lands on the ball, the 3rd time it lands where the ball was but just after it moved. It may then land on a body part belonging to one or more of Roberts, Tipuric and Tuilagi.

[Glas a du]

So in other words he's as incompetent at skulduggery as he is at playing

There's nothing in it boys, honestly.

[rodders]

Healy, Best, Ryan, O'Brien, Murray, Sexton, Marshall, BOD and Kearney will tour Rodders, at the very least...

Neigh chance. Best, Healy and Kearney had torrid tournaments overall. Ryan has too much competition and Sexton has been usurped by Farrell and Biggar at a minumum.

Murray did ok but would be behind Phillips, Youngs and Laidlaw on form, maybe Care too.

Luke Marshall is a bolter but has no more than an outside chance.

[Glas a du]

POC?

[maestegmafia]

If you can't see Ashton stamping on Roberts what about the head grabbing of Roberts by Ashton prior to the stamping...?

I see a good lineout take by Croft.
A god awfull pass by Youngs forcing Manu to pick up a bouncing ball and drive into roberts.
Roberts is one side of Manu, Tipuric on the other and Cole and Ashton drive into Roberts while it is a maul.
The whole thing collapses and Ashtons left arm is caught under Roberts head.
I can see why people such as yourself claim Ashton then pulls roberts by the head, especially with his record, but honestly I think he is just pulling his arm free.
Ashton then raises his foot 3 times and brings it down. Twice it lands on the ball, the 3rd time it lands where the ball was but just after it moved. It may then land on a body part belonging to one or more of Roberts, Tipuric and Tuilagi.

Ha ha ha...! Absolutely hilarious.

[rodders]

POC?

AW Jones, Gray, Hamilton, Parling, Launchbury, Hines, Ryan Jones.....

[LondonTiger]

Pleased I made you laugh. The first sentence you bolded is what happens - the maul goes to ground and Ashton's arm is under Roberts. After that it is conjecture by any of us as to what happens and why.

You have your beliefs to which you are entitled.

I have mine, for which I am to be mocked it seems.

Either way not up to us, it is down to the citing officer to decide.

[Gretgael1]

Rodders, you said that bod and sob will be the only Irish players to tour on merit. Do you think many Irish players will tour, merited or not?

Didn't Gatland say he will take h cup form into consideration as well?

[SecretFly]

Rodders, you said that bod and sob will be the only Irish players to tour on merit. Do you think many Irish players will tour, merited or not?

Didn't Gatland say he will take h cup form into consideration as well?

I think Gatland will take a huge amount of instinct (his) into consideration. He'll continue to watch, he'll know what he expects of his coaching team, what to expect of any preparations he commands and then knows the kind of player that will have the stamina and ability to go the distance with the possibility of winning the series. I don't think it will be or ever was a clear cut look at the games to choose his players. He'll be doing a lot of trusting to his own experience.

[rodders]

Rodders, you said that bod and sob will be the only Irish players to tour on merit. Do you think many Irish players will tour, merited or not?

Didn't Gatland say he will take h cup form into consideration as well?

No I don't think many will tour. I don't think there's much there in terms of HEC form to swing selection our way either.

I think Wales, England and to a lesser extent Scotland have most of the positions covered.

[Gretgael1]

Rodders, you said that bod and sob will be the only Irish players to tour on merit. Do you think many Irish players will tour, merited or not?

Didn't Gatland say he will take h cup form into consideration as well?

I think Gatland will take a huge amount of instinct (his) into consideration. He'll continue to watch, he'll know what he expects of his coaching team, what to expect of any preparations he commands and then knows the kind of player that will have the stamina and ability to go the distance with the possibility of winning the series. I don't think it will be or ever was a clear cut look at the games to choose his players. He'll be doing a lot of trusting to his own experience.

I couldn't agree more, fly. I don't think Gatland will be rigid and blinkered by the 6 nations. Obviously, i think he will take it into consideration, but he'd be foolish not to look at the bigger picture.

I'm not a huge supporter of the lions, it would suit me if our frontline players would have the summer off and the rest tour with Ireland, but we will have good representation with the lions regardless of the Irish performance in the 6 nations.

[Glas a du]

POC?

AW Jones Gray Hamilton Parling Launchbury Hines Ryan Jones

[lostinwales]

If Sexton gets over the injuries in one piece and proves form and fitness he will go. Right now that seems quite a big IF

[westisbest]

Healy, Best, Ryan, O'Brien, Murray, Sexton, Marshall, BOD and Kearney will tour Rodders, at the very least...

Thats who I think will go from players you have listed.

Think its to soon for Marshall, would love to see him there.

As for BOD, who knows where his head is at.
Ireland have been poor in his final 6N, his sin bin, in his final game in the green jersey. He's a new father, might just want to pack it all in come the end of the season.

[Glas a du]

I think Ryan is a great player. Your best forward easily.

[rodders]

I think Ryan is a great player. Your best forward easily.

Ryan is our best player....but that doesn't mean anything when it comes to Lions selection. None of our players would get into the Welsh or England sides. We are the worst side ever. They should just ban rugby from the indiginous population here... just let ex Pat South african and Kiwis play the oval ball game.

[Gretgael1]

I think Ryan has been fantastic for us considering he's been carrying an injury the entire tournament. Saying that, I don't think he'll tour with the lions.

I think Best, Healy, sob, bod and Sexton are certainties to tour, if fit. Heaslip, pom, Murray, Kearney are still in with a shout as well. I think if poc if fully fit he will have to be taken into consideration.

[GoodinTightSpaces]

3 weeks ban. misses the amlin 1/4 final

[GunsGerms]

3 weeks ban. misses the amlin 1/4 final

Bit harsh for a chest tickle. Oh well I guess he still might get selected for the Lions.

[geoff998rugby]

I think defeat against Italy has sent Rodders over the edge ... he started talking jibberish.

Keep him away from the suicide pills

[GoodinTightSpaces]

yeah and you would have thought his record would have helped him.

think Yachvilli got 10 days for this.

http://www.rugbydump.com/2013/03/3039/the-dimitri-yachvili-stamp-on-racing-metros-henry-chavancy#allcomments

[GunsGerms]

yeah and you would have thought his record would have helped him.

think Yachvilli got 10 days for this.

http://www.rugbydump.com/2013/03/3039/the-dimitri-yachvili-stamp-on-racing-metros-henry-chavancy#allcomments

Really only 10 days? Sure thats worse than Healy's effort. Bizarre.

I'd say BODs was the least serious followed by Healy yet they both got more than Yachvilli who repeatedly stamped, over five times or something.

[GoodinTightSpaces]

yeah and the hearing was delayed for 3 weeks so he played during that time. that was the same weekend as healy's stamp on Cole.

I'll use that word when looking at the citing process.
Consistency

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