England summer tour of Argentina

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Updated prior to Consur XV game:

Forwards (18)
Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby, 2 caps)
Rob Buchanan (Harlequins, uncapped)
Calum Clark (Northampton Saints, uncapped)
Alex Corbisiero (London Irish, 18 caps)
Paul Doran Jones (Northampton Saints, 4 caps)
Tom Johnson (Exeter Chiefs, 5 caps)
Matt Kvesic (Worcester Warriors, uncapped)
Joe Launchbury (London Wasps, 9 caps)
Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 20 caps)
Joe Marler (Harlequins, 10 caps)
Ben Morgan (Gloucester Rugby, 10 caps)
David Paice (London Irish, 6 caps)
Ed Slater (Leicester Tigers, uncapped)
Henry Thomas (Sale Sharks, uncapped)
Billy Vunipola (London Wasps, uncapped)
Rob Webber (Bath Rugby, 3 caps)
David Wilson (Bath Rugby, 26 caps)
Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, captain, 18 caps)

Backs (14)
Mike Brown (Harlequins, 16 caps)
Freddie Burns (Gloucester Rugby, 1 cap)
Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints, 7 caps)
Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
Ben Foden (Northampton Saints, 30 caps)
Alex Goode (Saracens, 11 caps)
Jonathan Joseph (London Irish, 4 caps)
Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby, uncapped)
David Strettle (Saracens, 13 caps)
Joel Tomkins (Saracens, uncapped)
Billy Twelvetrees (Gloucester Rugby, 4 caps)
Christian Wade (London Wasps, uncapped)
Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens, 12 caps)
Marland Yarde (London Irish, uncapped)

With Kearnan Myall and Haydn Thomas added to the squad for the Barbarians game.

Sides for the Consur XV game - KO 19.30

England: Ben Foden (Northampton Saints); Jonny May (Gloucester Rugby), Luther Burrell (Northampton Saints), Kyle Eastmond (Bath Rugby), David Strettle (Saracens); Stephen Myler (Northampton Saints), Richard Wigglesworth (Saracens); Joe Marler (Harlequins); David Paice (London Irish); Henry Thomas (Sale Sharks); Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints); Kearnan Myall (Unattached); Tom Wood (Northampton Saints, captain); Tom Johnson (Exeter Chiefs), Billy Vunipola (London Wasps)

Replacements: Rob Buchanan (Harlequins), Alex Corbisiero (London Irish), Paul Doran Jones (Northampton Saints), Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby), Matt Kvesic (Worcester Warriors) 21 Lee Dickson (Northampton Saints), Freddie Burns (Gloucester Rugby), Jonathan Joseph (London Irish)

CONSUR XV: Tomás Carrió (Argentina); Belisario Agulla (Argentina), Francisco Sansot (Argentina), Juan Socino (Argentina), Leandro Leivas (Uruguay); Benjamín Madero (Argentina), Tomás Cubelli -C- (Argentina), Bruno Postiglioni (Argentina), Arturo Ávalo (Uruguay), Mario Sagario (Uruguay), Cesar Fruttero (Argentina), Pablo Huete (Chile), Tomás de la Vega (Argentina), Javier Ortega Desio (Argentina), Antonio Ahualli (Argentina)

Replacements: Alejo Corral (Uruguay), Óscar Durán (Uruguay), Nicolás Klapenbach (Uruguay), Diego Magno (Uruguay), Juan Gaminara (Uruguay), Agustín Ormaechea(Uruguay), Mosiés Duque (Brasil), Santiago Gbernau (Uruguay)

http://www.espn.co.uk/england/rugby/story/184014.html

The game contains plenty of developing players on both sides who won't have played together much so should be interesting. From an England perspective I can't to see how Foden does back in the 15 shirt and also really looking forward to Jonny May getting a chance on the wing as I've been pushing for him to be selected all season (and before that even!).

To be completely honest I know little about most of the Consur XV players but as a Tigers fan I'm looking forward to seeing Horacio Agulla's younger brother Belisario on the right wing. I always rated Horacio very highly and enjoyed his style of play so I'm hoping for much the same from Belisario!

I really want to see Eastmond involved going forward, love the way he runs with the ball

Cheeky try...Billy

Halftime hatrick for Billy

Billy vs Consur still on, when are England playing?

Billy almost looks embarrassed, quickest hatrick ever?

That scrum half trying to tackle him was rather amusing, poor chap

Worst dummy ever from Billy. He got tackled anyway but just kept walking over the line.

Ditto about eastmond...

England seem to have settled now and they're not able to compete too well. Hopefully they'll get back to have they were just before May's yellow

Nice pass by May out of the tackle as well.

3 tries in about 6 minutes

That is pretty impressive for any team against any opposition

Anyone know of a quicker hattrick?

It was a really neat pass round the tackler from May.

SA XV getting away with so many lazy runners

Bad kick by Foden

According to ESPN

Vunipola (29, 32, 35)

3 tries in 6 minutes then

What has he been playing at for the last 5!

Wood try just before Half time. A couple of nice offloads that were caught. I've a feeling at least one was forward

EDIT: Actually seeming them again they seem fine

Cant believe there was not something foward there. Series of attacks round the corner sees Wood over by the posts

try scrum.com

We started playing well right after May's yellow card.

Solid performance.....a few players showing nice bits...but dont rate the opposition

Not really been impressed with the set piece. I think we have gotten away with quite a few skewed lineouts. In the scrum, I don't think it is Marler getting pinged, I think it is Henry Thomas, he is allowing his shoulder to get turned in.

Was hoping they would test us, but other than a couple of scrums haven't seen a whole lot from them

I was hoping we might see some racy Latin American ads at half time...

Ropey start but turning into a bit of a rout now. With my 'spreading the rugby gospel' hat on I hope England don't run away with too much...

Ignoring the match itself for a moment, I like this. An old fashioned tour match in a distant outpost against unknown opposition. If this encourages a few more Uruguayan lads to take the sport up it was well worth it. Thinking about it, I'd rather have had another match in Montevideo, against Uruguay, than the match at Twickenham against the Barbarians.

Lovely try for Consur

Good try, England caught napping a bit

14-31

Great run by tom Johnson...thats what he hasnt done enough of in his previous England games

Some lovely passing across field for that try

14 - 36

poor strettle...

Buchanan, Doran-Jones and Kvesic on for Paice, Thomas and Wood

Yep, nice play before the white line fever from Myall at the end, good support from Foden though.

I'm sure one of the commentators just said "Paice is Australian isn't he?"

These commentators seem pretty well-informed about the background of the England players.

Stream crashed?

EDIT - ignore me

Rugby Fan wrote:These commentators seem pretty well-informed about the background of the England players.

Well they're for ESPN so free of the Fox/Sky corruptions

Dickson on for Wigglesworth

BamBam wrote:Stream crashed?

Fine for me. Try refreshing it

Glad wood is leaving the field early.

Nice hands by Vunipola(?) at the line out

HammerofThunor wrote:Nice hands by Vunipola(?) at the line out

Yep, was a great touch

I'm a bit disappointed that we still can't put together any clever back plays.

Attwood on for Lawes and Joseph on for Eastman

Great scrum.....

Nice control at the base by Billy V

HammerofThunor wrote:I'm a bit disappointed that we still can't put together any clever back plays.

It's almost like everyone is trying a bit too hard to impress. There's a lot of holding on to the ball too long and over running passes.

Why is myler in the England squad...

I was thinking that, what is the point?

Lancaster will not be happy with the English defence

He is the token jobber who goes on a depleted tour as reward for a good club season.
This years Sam vesty

sickofwendy wrote:He is the token jobber who goes on a depleted tour as reward for a good club season.
This years Sam vesty

I must have missed this good club season

What the hell Corbisiero?

can anyone give me a link please?