Amlin 1/4 Wasps vs Leinster

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Morning all I thought I'd get the ball rolling on this one.

It's been a while since these two teams faced off, way back to 2009 where Wasps deservedly beat Leinster 19-12 on Leinster's road to their first ever HCup. This was in contrast to the 41-11 win Leinster achieved in October against the same opposition in Dublin.

Leinster were on a great run of form up until this Saturday when they were beaten by Ulster, they now lie in 3rd place in the Rabo league. They find themselves in an odd situation as they and their supporters would consider themselves Heineken Cup big timers and being in the lower tier of Europe I am sure ruffles a few feathers. They have some high profile absentees notably; O'Driscoll, Sexton and Reddan which constitutes a large amount of quality and experience that will not be present.

Wasps find themselves in 7th pace of the Aviva Premiership in the depths of a 4 game losing streak. Some close defeats to Northampton and Worcester compounded by a drubbing to London Irish and a first league home loss to Saracens. Not ideal. Some danger men have just returned from Six Nations duty names like Masi and Launchberry significantly strengthen the side.

So where will the game be decided?
Who will get ascendancy at the breakdown and set pieces?
Who are the danger men coming into this game?
What are the prospective teams?

Wade is incredible.

WAAAAAADE!!!!!!!!!!

Amazing individual try from Wade!

Get him in the squad Mr Lancaster, get him in immediately!

Stuart can't smile, he's the plank that left him out of the whole 6N's squad.

Wade taking his chance tonight!

Leinster need to stop this drift defence now. Its not working

Rory_Gallagher wrote:

overlordofthewest wrote:How come Wade can't even make the England squad? He has to be one of Englands best wingers.

Wade is a very impressive young player. I hope England continue to ignore him.

Outside chance for the Lions though?

He could well be if he continues to play like this tonight. Gatland will be watching with interest.

Wasps crowd are in fine voice tonight, can't quite figure out the words to their song though...

Wait for everyone to call Wade for the Lions................... The 2013 Ugo Monye/Keith Earls perhaps. Love what he brings, he seems to be faster then he is quick, which is what you want in a winger, superb try.

Wasps need to box more clever, they need to look for territory when things slow down.

If England want some spark in their backline they need to start with Wade and Daily. Gatland with an eye on Madigan?

I thought the english back three lacked a real cutting edge during the 6 nations.. he looks like the cure.

WOULD GO GAY FOR THAT MAN

Madigan for the Lions!

That right there is why Madigan has a higher ceiling then Sexton.

Madigan is just sublime. What a fantastic try. Gatland will be enjoying this!

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:WOULD GO GAY FOR THAT MAN

This has all the makings of a cracker - enjoying it so far!

Thomond wrote:That right there is why Madigan has a higher ceiling then Sexton.

True story

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Madigan is just sublime. What a fantastic try. Gatland will be enjoying this!

Agree totally. He's taking in five games this weekend. I think he will get plenty of options after it, that he may not have considered before.

I do think Wade will tour by the way. Think Gatland will want some real gas out there.

This game is sexy

Yellow card someone!!!

I'll give you one when the game is over yappy...but let me watch this first.

As a Welshman, i'm glad the English coaches have been ignoring Wade

Any Wasps fans with an opinion of Dai Young as a coach?

What place are the Wasps in the premiership?

wales606 wrote:As a Welshman, i'm glad the English coaches have been ignoring Wade

And Wasps fans with an opinion of Dai Young as a coach?

Could you credit their backline play to Shane Howarth more though?

7th

Wade is a joker

Entertaining first half. Did that Leinster 10 play in the 6N's?

Thanks Fly!

The Wasps are showing more attacking threat in my opinion, though Leinster are ruling the breakdown right now.

yappysnap wrote:Entertaining first half. Did that Leinster 10 play in the 6N's?

On the bench for the last 2 rounds wasn't he?

Holy moly, he really burned Nacewa there.

I think if Leinster put in one more to rucks every second or third phase we will find Wasps having huge difficulty getting the quick ball that is literally their life blood

How is Ashton ahead of Wade?

LondonTiger wrote:

yappysnap wrote:Entertaining first half. Did that Leinster 10 play in the 6N's?

On the bench for the last 2 rounds wasn't he?

He got gametime at 12 in both games when we were running out of players

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Thanks Fly!

The Wasps are showing more attacking threat in my opinion, though Leinster are ruling the breakdown right now.

Leinster haven't been a genuine attacking threat all season. They're just not clicking for some reason. Enduring rather than dominating.

Wade and Madigan are doing themselves no harm with Gatland in attendance.I hope Gats asked the England supremo why England didn't want Wade!

SecretFly wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Thanks Fly!

The Wasps are showing more attacking threat in my opinion, though Leinster are ruling the breakdown right now.

Leinster haven't been a genuine attacking threat all season. They're just not clicking for some reason. Enduring rather than dominating.

I would disagree.
I think we just need 5% more patience with ball in hand and then this game should be ours

LeinsterFan4life wrote:How is Ashton ahead of Wade?

Reputation and incriminating pics.

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Thanks Fly!

The Wasps are showing more attacking threat in my opinion, though Leinster are ruling the breakdown right now.

Leinster haven't been a genuine attacking threat all season. They're just not clicking for some reason. Enduring rather than dominating.

I would disagree.
I think we just need 5% more patience with ball in hand and then this game should be ours

That 5% is a pretty big gap then pete from here to when they could cut and slice at will. That 5% they've been struggling to uncover all season.

I agree Fly. Any idea why that might be? Ageing backline?

SecretFly wrote:

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:

SecretFly wrote:

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Thanks Fly!

The Wasps are showing more attacking threat in my opinion, though Leinster are ruling the breakdown right now.

Leinster haven't been a genuine attacking threat all season. They're just not clicking for some reason. Enduring rather than dominating.

I would disagree.
I think we just need 5% more patience with ball in hand and then this game should be ours

That 5% is a pretty big gap then pete from here to when they could cut and slice at will. That 5% they've been struggling to uncover all season.

I'm just talking about this game would agree with you re: the season as a whole.
I think if we regain a bit of control and nous then this game should be ours to lose. That being said getting that control will not be easy

Great game so far, fantastic intensity.

Rory_Gallagher wrote:I agree Fly. Any idea why that might be? Ageing backline?

Don't know Rory. There is an awful lot of what Pete referred to there; as in they seem to get impatient, or they seem to get confused a little when operating at tempos they could easily utilise before. I don't know why that seems to be such a consistent one this year.

I'm Leinster fan, Madigan makin me feel sooo much better about Sexton leaving.

If i was an England fan i'd be calling for Wade ahead of Ashton!

After this 6 nations yes....

Yes Wade is 100 times better than Ashton. Daily should also be at 13 instead of a bosh merchant.

ISA!!!!

Nacewa...??? Who is he??

And I think that's the game.

Can't see Wasps coming back from this now.

Well played Leinster!