Rigo Got This: Final Thoughts
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Rigo Got This: Final Thoughts
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So excited about this one. Rigo got this by KO IMO. I just think that despite not having many 12 round fights under his belt, and despite him having slight chin issues (remember the weight he fights at, KO weight), he's got this.
What ya'll think, ya'll? Who got this in your mind and why?
Whatever happens it will be one hell of a fight, sheer entertainment, and a purest's dream. I know it. No stinker here, nu uh.
Excited.
So excited about this one. Rigo got this by KO IMO. I just think that despite not having many 12 round fights under his belt, and despite him having slight chin issues (remember the weight he fights at, KO weight), he's got this.
What ya'll think, ya'll? Who got this in your mind and why?
Whatever happens it will be one hell of a fight, sheer entertainment, and a purest's dream. I know it. No stinker here, nu uh.
Excited.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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Narvaez stepped up in weight and took it pretty well once or twice. It's not absolutely killer unless he connects with speed.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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Narvaez is a tough SOB which Rigondeaux isn't, just go and ask Arce, Nishioka, Montiel, Sydorenko or Darchinyan if his power is killer or not.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Narvaez did absolutely nothing in that fight... he didn't get hit, because he didn't even try to open up. One of my favourite quotes from the Nishioka fight from Roy Jones
"Donaire will have to take what he can get, until the shop opens"
LOL
"Donaire will have to take what he can get, until the shop opens"
LOL
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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Rigo is the smarter boxer, smarts will be the difference IMO. A true great can unravel anyone's defense. Donaire is not truly great yet.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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More contrived rubbish that makes no sense.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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davidemore wrote:Rigo is the smarter boxer, smarts will be the difference IMO. A true great can unravel anyone's defense. Donaire is not truly great yet.
I don't understand what you are saying Emore. To me it sounds like you're saying a true great as in Rigo can unlock anyones defence? But yet Donaire with the much stronger pedigree and proven worth with truly great wins in the professional game isn't truly great?
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AlexHuckerby wrote:davidemore wrote:Rigo is the smarter boxer, smarts will be the difference IMO. A true great can unravel anyone's defense. Donaire is not truly great yet.
I don't understand what you are saying Emore. To me it sounds like you're saying a true great as in Rigo can unlock anyones defence? But yet Donaire with the much stronger pedigree and proven worth with truly great wins in the professional game isn't truly great?
I think it was a stab at what I said, in reference to Narvaez being totally defensive the entire fight.
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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It was Boxingfan88.
Barcelona play footy teams that park the bus near every game. They still score. You see my point. Well observed. That dummy Imperial aint 'smart' enough to get it. joke.
Barcelona play footy teams that park the bus near every game. They still score. You see my point. Well observed. That dummy Imperial aint 'smart' enough to get it. joke.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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Donaire still wins, what exactly is your point?
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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My point is Rigo wins. Be prepared to feel silly.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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I don't care really care if I predict a fight wrong so there's no chance of me feeling silly, would be good to see you elaborate your points once in a while instead of acting like an attention seeking child.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Imperial Ghosty wrote:I don't care really care if I predict a fight wrong so there's no chance of me feeling silly, would be good to see you elaborate your points once in a while instead of acting like an attention seeking child.
Agree.
AlexHuckerby- Posts : 9201
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Rigo wins because he has power in both hands, is smart, is capable of blistering speed, adaptive reactive (thanks Dwyer), a back and front foot fighter, so many reasons really. In my opinion.
But it will not be easy.
Not at all.
But it will not be easy.
Not at all.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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I've never seen Rigo really adapt at any point, even when he was being a fair bit ineffective against Rico Ramos he just kept doing the same thing.
AlexHuckerby- Posts : 9201
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davidemore wrote:Rigo wins because he has power in both hands, is smart, is capable of blistering speed, adaptive reactive (thanks Dwyer), a back and front foot fighter, so many reasons really. In my opinion.
But it will not be easy.
Not at all.
so does donaire- and he's proven that over and over.
eddyfightfan- Posts : 2925
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Rigo will adapt in this one, the undefeated champ will stay the champ IMO.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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we've got very strong opposing views on this one emore- who will be able to show their face here tomorrow and hold their head up high? time will tell.
eddyfightfan- Posts : 2925
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All of us regardless of what happens.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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that sounds like a drop in confidence to me....
ha, im only joshing, if rigo does win ill will be the first to admit im wrong and mis judged him. IF
ha, im only joshing, if rigo does win ill will be the first to admit im wrong and mis judged him. IF
eddyfightfan- Posts : 2925
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BoxingFan88 wrote:Pedro Diaz
I have only ever seen Rigo throw the straight left, he looks extremely one handed to me.
I was watching the Ramos fight and granted he is a lot better now, but he has his chin in the air with his right hand at his waist.....
To be fair, I don't think Donaire's right hand is that much to write home about.
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Donaire will win, whether it be by legit means or a horrible robbery. There's no money in Rigondeux.
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sittingringside wrote:BoxingFan88 wrote:Pedro Diaz
I have only ever seen Rigo throw the straight left, he looks extremely one handed to me.
I was watching the Ramos fight and granted he is a lot better now, but he has his chin in the air with his right hand at his waist.....
To be fair, I don't think Donaire's right hand is that much to write home about.
True but he is wide open for the left hook if he does that.
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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Donaire's right hand isn't much to write home about!? His right uppercut is vicious!!!
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In comparison to the left it might not be, but its better than most in the division.
BoxingFan88- Posts : 3759
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NOt watch Donaire's right against Sydorenko I take it?
AlexHuckerby- Posts : 9201
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One fight one punch, hardly conclusive alex.
Check this snappy promo out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEX8vij_L0
Rigo wants this, and seems composed.
Check this snappy promo out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEX8vij_L0
Rigo wants this, and seems composed.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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Going into the Darchinyan fight, it was his right which was much vaunted, don't be fooled by his knockouts of Montiel and Darchinyan, his right hand is dynamite too when it lands.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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davidemore wrote:One fight one punch, hardly conclusive alex.
Check this snappy promo out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEX8vij_L0
Rigo wants this, and seems composed.
What are you basing your love of Rigondeaux on then?
He has fought absolutely nobody yet in his career and this is a huge huge step up for him which it isn't for Donaire.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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AlexHuckerby wrote:NOt watch Donaire's right against Sydorenko I take it?
Ripped his nose apart, the blood just started gushing from the bridge of his nose and pouring out of his nose.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Imperial you need your pi** tested. You on that sh** Berto was on if you think Rigo isn't a step up.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JRqTaskfhI
Defo hittable.
Defo hittable.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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Rigondeaux is entiry unproven as a pro, as things stand he's a level below proper champions Montiel, Darchinyan and Nishioka. He has done the sum total of nothing as a pro.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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In name only, his level of opposition of such a poor standard I can't call him a proper champion.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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You call him a proper champion!
Or wait until tomorrow.
Or wait until tomorrow.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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For christ sake, grow up you pathetic little boy.
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I wouldn't say of SUCH a poor standard, he's beaten relatively credible fighters, Rico Ramos wasn't POOR, neither was Cordoba, though they were nowhere near the heights of a Darchinyan or Montiel or Nishioka.
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AlexHuckerby wrote:I wouldn't say of SUCH a poor standard, he's beaten relatively credible fighters, Rico Ramos wasn't POOR, neither was Cordoba, though they were nowhere near the heights of a Darchinyan or Montiel or Nishioka.
None of these guys are elite, not one. World level? yes. Amazing, no.
This is both fighters biggest fight, and I for one cannot wait.
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Well I have never rated Cordoba, anyone who manages to lose to Dunne isn't much cop while Ramos subsequent losses have shown his level as being well below world level.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Darchinyan was looking like one of the next big things until Donaire seriously cut him down to size, Montiel was a major hitter at BW and lookign really tough to beat and was a 50/50 fight with him and Donaire, the manner of victory also makes the this a truly great win. Nishioka was the man at SBW, Donaire waltzed over him.
If they are simply world level fighters, then Rico Ramos and Cordoba aren't world class then, as they are a big step below.
If they are simply world level fighters, then Rico Ramos and Cordoba aren't world class then, as they are a big step below.
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davidemore wrote:AlexHuckerby wrote:I wouldn't say of SUCH a poor standard, he's beaten relatively credible fighters, Rico Ramos wasn't POOR, neither was Cordoba, though they were nowhere near the heights of a Darchinyan or Montiel or Nishioka.
None of these guys are elite, not one. World level? yes. Amazing, no.
This is both fighters biggest fight, and I for one cannot wait.
Donaire is elite level, Rigondeaux is not and yes he at the moment is below the level of the aforementioned trio. Trying to say he is currently elite level is just lunacy, you don't get there by having supposed silky skills and a strong amateur pedigree, you get there by beating the best.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Two Gold's a belt after 9 fights, better technical skills than anyone else around and KO power in both hands. You're right, Rigo is completely over hyped.
Tomorrow you will eat words Imperial, and I will remain humble.
Tomorrow you will eat words Imperial, and I will remain humble.
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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You bore me and as far as his gold medals and world titles go, it means very little when the best you've faced is Cordoba, if his skills were so much better than anyone else he wouldn't getting troubled by Cordoba and rocked by Marroquin.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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Guess we'll find out in 9 hours or so.
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When does the fight start?
Also, how the heck did Donaire spark out Montiel with his left??? Is he not orthodox? Must have some sweet power!
Looking forward, but itching with Rigo, don know hy, just a hunch.
Also, how the heck did Donaire spark out Montiel with his left??? Is he not orthodox? Must have some sweet power!
Looking forward, but itching with Rigo, don know hy, just a hunch.
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davidemore wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JRqTaskfhI
Defo hittable.
0:45 Sweet.
John Bloody Wayne- Posts : 4460
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Sweeet! Fight time approaching, whose staying up for it?
davidemore- Posts : 2693
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I'm torn between staying up or getting up...
I'll be up either way. Can't wait to see
A) The skill on display and
B) The meltdown when one of these guys inevitably loses! Such foolhardy backing of each of them.
Me, I'm a coward, I tentatively back Donaire. Range, power, experience all edging it to him. Wouldn't be surprised to see the laser guided punches of Rigo run Donaire out of oxygen and makes things tough though.
Having said that, DONAIRE KO IN ONE. YOU A FOOL, EMORE. A DAMN, SHAMELESS FOOL.
I'll be up either way. Can't wait to see
A) The skill on display and
B) The meltdown when one of these guys inevitably loses! Such foolhardy backing of each of them.
Me, I'm a coward, I tentatively back Donaire. Range, power, experience all edging it to him. Wouldn't be surprised to see the laser guided punches of Rigo run Donaire out of oxygen and makes things tough though.
Having said that, DONAIRE KO IN ONE. YOU A FOOL, EMORE. A DAMN, SHAMELESS FOOL.
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dont know how anyone can say rigo by ko.. anyone gets KO'd its rigo tasting canvas. iv never seen donaire rocked, and he's taken some flush shots. whilst taking said flush shots, he's thrown punches that ko'd the opponent
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I believe in you RIGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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