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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Driver Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:58 pm

Steve ill give you 5 for houghard
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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue Apr 16, 2013 4:59 pm

Have 3 interested at the moment. Have made an offer with Fluxy and if he declines that then whoever bids highest really.

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Post by Guest Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:41 pm

Does this mean smit is leaving immediately if he is to be
Mentored until July ?

http://www.planetrugby.co.uk/story/0,25883,16024_8643604,00.html

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:59 pm

Unless anybody wants them I will be releasing Tomas O'Leary and Butch James later. If anyone wants them I will sell them for £3m each.
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Post by Fluxy Tue Apr 16, 2013 10:31 pm


Anyone interested in these lads? Looking for and outside centre and a winger.

LH - Benn Robinson (Australia)
LH - Ben Daley (Australia)
OS - Jonathan Poff (New Zealand)
BS - Aaron Shingler (Wales)
BS - Dave Dennis (Australia)
FH - Brock James (Australia)
IC/OC - Brad Barritt (England)
PR Rhodri Jones 23/12/1991 (age 20)

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Post by stnick88 Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:12 am

Ali Williams is available on the cheap if anyone wants him?

cash or swap.

have too many locks.

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:09 am

Fluxy is the Harry Rednap of this game. Good work mate. They must be wondering who is next !

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Post by stnick88 Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:24 pm

Falcons sign Clegg.

Think that will be good for him. I think he has been pretty poor for Quins, but that is due to lack of game time. Has some potential.

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:45 pm

Think falcons will struggle at ten. You need a recognised kicker.

They have been playing in the worst championship league for many years where it is easy but at Ap with no gopperth they need a kicker

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:12 pm

I think we might sign another 10.

If Clegg plays 10 we have Catterick at FB who's a solid option.

Clegg is pretty uninspiring tbh

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:35 pm

Anybody else heard Parisse is leaving Stade, possibly to Japan?

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:41 pm

Where did you see that. Does not look plausible to me

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Post by Fluxy Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:45 pm

Wouldn't surprise me. He's been there for a while and Stade seem to be stuck in a downward spiral.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:51 pm

I read something after 6N and have just seem it mentioned on main board.

Quick google and he's signed a new deal at Stade apparently, bit wasted there really

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Post by Guest Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:54 pm

He loves Paris and is a superstar there. I sat near him on flight from Rome to Paris after England italy last year and he was getting pretty much adored all way back.

To be a celebrity in Paris is a big lure so cant see him moving


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:25 am

Saull signs up:

http://www.newcastlefalcons.co.uk/m/news/story/falcons-swoop-for-saull-2

Not a fan but a decent option for us, be good backup for Welch.

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Post by stnick88 Thu Apr 18, 2013 8:48 am

I think it is a good signing.

I don't know much about Welch, but having an openside who has prem experience and Saxons experience is no bad thing.

Definitely never lived up to his potential though and was always hugely over hyped.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:36 am

I imagine he will be first choice cannot see him going there unless. Welch is a good work horse but not that classy.

Falcons are becoming Saracens reserves!!

When Worcester came up they seemed to sign every gloucester back up player.

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Post by Fluxy Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:40 am

You haven't seen Welch play Matt, he's a tank!

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:54 am

Seen him play quite a bit when they were in the prem and he was decent a nd odd game on championship that has been televised although not much TBH.

Just can't see Saull moving to North East to be second choice. He has been Saxons etc so is a bigger name and also a much better attacking 7.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:56 am

See Priestland is back in a week or 2

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Post by Fluxy Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:59 am

Could maybe see him moved between seven and six actually.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 18, 2013 11:28 am

anonmattyt wrote:I imagine he will be first choice cannot see him going there unless. Welch is a good work horse but not that classy.

Falcons are becoming Saracens reserves!!

When Worcester came up they seemed to sign every gloucester back up player.

Welch is club captain and better than Saull. Only option is if he moves to 6 to allow Saull in

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:15 pm

Marcelo Bosch has apparently signed for Sarries.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:17 pm

Interesting move. Looked great for Argentina but has had an appalling season for Biarritz. Can just about play anyway across the backline so wonder where Sarries will be putting him

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Post by stnick88 Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:26 pm

13 possibly.

Might be a bit of a utility player.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:38 pm

He is a dreadful 10 and a world class 13. Played everywhere out of necessity. For my sins I watch more of Biarritz then anyone else in France and they are garbage to watch but its rugby so better than nowt. See them live a few times a year mainly because its near to where I go in spain.

His performances at 13 for Argentina in RC were great. He was compared to Conrad smith which is as good as it gets. Not the same player at 12.

Sarries and salary cap is a joke again and again.


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Post by Fluxy Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:42 pm

12? To accommodate Tomkins?

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:44 pm

He plays 10, 12, 13 and 15 so a good player to have - guess they need some backline cover during 6Nations.

He's had a really odd season for Biarittz, either great or awful, but mostly that is down to where they play him - 13 top rate, 10/12 cra p and 15 pretty decent.

Saints are signing some very good players still too - they've got a guy called Glen Dickson who is meant to be the answer for their 10 problems and have signed another big tackling lock, as they might be moving Manoa to no8 next season.

Wasps have apparently signed a backrower from NZ who is 20/21 and a slightly smaller version of Vunipola. Can't remember his name off the top of my head, but meant to be pretty decent.

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Post by stnick88 Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:44 pm

Doubt they would drop Barritt. Tomkins more likely to be dropped.

They like to rotate anyway.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:47 pm

Saracens have an eye in Europe and building a big squad by the looks

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Post by Driver Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:48 pm

He won't displace Welch from 7. Welch is a class act. Think he'll be Saxon next season and England later on.
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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:51 pm

Ap different than the weak championship though driver.

He was decent in a poor falcons side that was relegated. We will see......

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Post by stnick88 Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:54 pm

See how he gets on against the likes of Salvi, Fraser and Robshaw next season.

I can't really comment as havent seen much of him.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 12:56 pm

Can add Qera scaysbrook and louw to that list

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:04 pm

He was our best player when we went down, he was made club captain at 22. He won't be dropped for Saull 100% but we may play both.

You can say Saull has more AP experience but he's 3rd choice at Sarries and looked poor this season. I hope Deano can improve him.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 18, 2013 1:10 pm

Matt, where do you get the Champ league is worst in years?

It was a weaker league last year, Welsh were pretty average. Pirates are pretty much same team and have not done as well.

There was no standout team last year, there is this year.

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Post by stnick88 Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:04 pm

I'd say its stronger this year with Bristol and Nottingham looking OK

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:09 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Matt, where do you get the Champ league is worst in years?

It was a weaker league last year, Welsh were pretty average. Pirates are pretty much same team and have not done as well.

There was no standout team last year, there is this year.

Pooly I am friends with quite a few championship players at bristol and coach with quite a few of them.
. All are unanimous that champ is so poor this year.

So many clubs have financial issues and squads are threadbare. Notts and pirates in financial mess etc.

Jersey playing in champ says it all.


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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 2:11 pm

Last year bristol were standout team and then melted.

Standard worse by a bit.

League below has lots some players better than champ who can't get game due to lack of cash.


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:01 pm

Have to agree to disagree on that, I watched a bit last year and seen plenty of teams this year to see its a stronger league this season.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:05 pm

To be fair I would rather take the view of players who play in It every week and they are quite unanimous about it.

Likes of kalamafoni cook ward Etc no longer in it.

Financial problems In champ mean smaller squads with lesser players. Cannot see it sustaining 100% full time professionals much longer.

Most top sides had financial issues.
Next years will be even weaker

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:17 pm

Well that doesn't change my opinion, I'm happy to agree to disagree

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:22 pm

Most telling part of the Championship for me is the number of loan players that go there from the AP to bulk up the squad sizes.

It is good for giving youngsters first team experience, but the Newcastle team that went down were really bad and to walk the Championship as they have done for me speaks volumes - are they still undefeated?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:30 pm

Our form in the 2nd half of the season was top half so we were hardly "really bad".

We turned over Wasps, Gloucester etc and if Vesty had have scored that try Wasps would have probably went down.

The Champ is always full of loan player, that's how a poor Welsh side beat an average Pirates side last season.

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:06 pm

Look at bristol this year. They had a side of kids and has beens and are still in the mix. Their side the year before was much better.


It's more of a devolopment or bit of a pension league now.

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Post by dammit_chris Thu Apr 18, 2013 5:15 pm

Championship for me is just a feeder for the AP - generally poor teams, in which you probably have 2-3 players from each who could make it in the AP and then mixed with lots of loans.

Thing is Newcastle are beating everything that is put in front of them, so can't really knock them for that. Deano will be a great coach for them, but to be in with a shout next year they need to sign more players like Blair and less like Clegg.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu Apr 18, 2013 6:26 pm

I don't disagree it's a poor league but this year is no different to previous

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Post by Guest Thu Apr 18, 2013 7:10 pm

This is why he is always injured

http://www.rugbydump.com/

Check Kahui hit.

Massive. Tapui does really well to hold on to it. Good all round rugby

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Post by Guest Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:56 am

AAC straight through cruden try. His defence is cipriani style

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