2012/13 Premier League discussion thread Part 5

by Guest Sun 14 Apr 2013, 1:23 pm

First topic message reminder :

The discussion rages on! The end is nigh folks..

by GSC Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:13 pm

Fantastic strike.

Villa planning on defending at any point? Seriously useless so far

by **Crimey** Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:14 pm

You'd have thought it was Manchester United who desperately needed the points. No fight from Villa.

by CFCNick Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:14 pm

Ent wrote:
Crimey wrote:
Ent wrote:
Crimey wrote:
Hero wrote:Seen a number of Liverpool fans quickly mention Cantona and that Utd welcomed him back for his misdemeanour involving the Crystal Palace fan. Fair enough, give Suarez a 9 month ban as well then if you want a similar treatment.

Except a silly little bite is slightly different than trying to kung fu kick a fan and trying to punch a fan and getting criminal charges. Ivanovic has even accepted the apology.

Not advocating beating a fan and he would be gone in the modern game but being racially abused vs nothing and history of racism vs kicking a few people?

Suarez is lukcy to still be at liverpool after the racial abuse issue, really it's a cumulation of things.

Under no provocation he has bitten an opponent, then feigned injury afterwards. He is going to get a lengthy suspension, as good a player as he is, he can't be relied on. I'm sure if Cantona had a second spectacular misdemeanour he would have been sacked.

Also United banned him for the rest of the season immediately IIRC.

I'm not going to get into the racism debate, only that there is absolutely no evidence for it other than what Evra claimed. No video evidence, no complaint to the police so we wouldn't be able to see what happened if it got to court, but I don't think it'd make it that far. The FA have to have a very strong stance on racism, even in the face of no evidence.

I don't think it was "under no provocation", Ivanovic had been winding him up all game, yes it's all part of the game, but it wasn't unprovoked, if you reviewed the footage of the whole game and kept it all on Suarez you'd see Ivanovic winding him up a lot by holding him, probably getting a few digs in as defenders do. It didn't come from nowhere. It was just a ridiculous reaction to the provocation.

He admitted it, case closed.

He wasn't provoked, thats normal interaction between defender and attacker - he doesn't bite his opponents every week and Suarez is every bit the antagonist towards the defender.

I'll be honest your reply is embarassing.

I thought some of the things I've spouted defending Chelsea were a bit much but there's no one on this planet that can justify biting another human. Stop trying.

by The Special Juan Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:15 pm

"ZOMFG"

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:17 pm

Goal of the season anyway.

Spectacular.

by **Crimey** Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:18 pm

I thought some of the things I've spouted defending Chelsea were a bit much but there's is no one on this planet that can justify biting another human. Stop trying.

I haven't at all tried to justify it. I said it's not a reasonable reaction. I said he deserves punishment.

I'm just trying to put some perspective into it considering some of the ridiculous views expressed on this forum. How Suarez "assaulted" Ivanovic, or that Liverpool should get rid of him.

by Guest Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:18 pm

Ent wrote:Goal of the season anyway.

Spectacular.

You enjoying this Ent?

by **Crimey** Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:21 pm

Bar Benteke, this Aston Villa side is really weak. Considering a couple of years ago they actually had quite a decent team, it's quite sad really. I mean they've sold Downing, Milner, Barry, Young in the past couple of years, all of whom this season have been playing in Europe while Aston Villa slip down the table. The replacements haven't been good enough.

by sportform Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:22 pm

Definitely Goal of the Season by RVP there. Technically brilliant.

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:23 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Ent wrote:Goal of the season anyway.

Spectacular.

You enjoying this Ent?

How could you not enjoy that goal.

United playing well, Rooney giggs swapping positions very clever from fergie.

Not enjoying the fact I got offered a ticket this morning then had the offer withdrawn!!

by GSC Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:25 pm

Stunning strike but I still can't look past lowton

by Guest Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:30 pm

That's the golden boot in the bag for RVP. Can he hit 30 for the season?

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:32 pm

Giggs what an absolute legend.

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:33 pm

I've had a beer, have all of uniteds goals been slightly offside tonight?

by GSC Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:34 pm

I can't help but feel that Villa would be in a better position if they started defending

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:34 pm

This could get nasty

by GSC Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:36 pm

I get they're coming to OT but this has been a urine poor performance from Villa.

Quite what on earth Lambert has set up is beyond me

by GSC Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:37 pm

United have barely had to get out of first gear and the games over.

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:41 pm

They were shocked by the first goal.

by westisbest Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:53 pm

FreekShow wrote:
Ent wrote:Goal of the season anyway.

Spectacular.

You enjoying this Ent?

I'm fcking not.

This is pi55 poor from Villa.

Shocking defending as usual.
Lamberts first mistake, not strenghening the dfence.
Apart from Benteke's effort, pretty shocking.
Bennett has to be one of the worst defenders in the league.
How many times hav utd players had so much space onthe left.
Useless bunch of players.

by westisbest Mon 22 Apr 2013, 8:56 pm

Ent wrote:I've had a beer, have all of uniteds goals been slightly offside tonight?

Just the one ent.................................. knew utd fans were lightweights Whistle

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:05 pm

westisbest wrote:
Ent wrote:I've had a beer, have all of uniteds goals been slightly offside tonight?

Just the one ent.................................. knew utd fans were lightweights

I am tired to be fair.

Just lacking my usual precise analytical eye

by JPX Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:15 pm

So Utd do have a goalkeeper tonight!

by The Special Juan Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:16 pm

I think the first and third were with RVP just about level for the second.

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:18 pm

Just goes to show you the margins at this level, no dreadful calls but it could still be 0-0.

by JPX Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:22 pm

Ent wrote:Just goes to show you the margins at this level, no dreadful calls but it could still be 0-0.

Seriously are you watching the same game? Utd have another 3 gears to use. Embarrassingly easy.

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:39 pm

JPX wrote:
Ent wrote:Just goes to show you the margins at this level, no dreadful calls but it could still be 0-0.
Seriously are you watching the same game? Utd have another 3 gears to use. Embarrassingly easy.

No doubt but villa wouldn't be the first side to fluke a draw.

Even diegos getting a song tonight, can't beat a good rhythm.

by JPX Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:43 pm

Will Raphael be the worst player to win a PL medal?

by GSC Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:45 pm

Congratulations to United, best of what has been a pretty meh bunch this year, but still a tremendous achievement

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:45 pm

JPX wrote:Will Raphael be the worst player to win a PL medal?

Welbeck trumps him

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:46 pm

JPX wrote:Will Raphael be the worst player to win a PL medal?

No.

by GSC Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:46 pm

Rafael already has one doesnt he?

by Duty281 Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:48 pm

Cracking second goal for United to seal the title. Complete control, can only hope next season is more exciting at the top!

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:48 pm

GSC wrote:Rafael already has one doesnt he?

Yes

by JPX Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:48 pm

GSC wrote:Rafael already has one doesnt he?

Well 2 medals then!

by GG Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:48 pm

Olly wrote:
JPX wrote:Will Raphael be the worst player to win a PL medal?

Welbeck trumps him

Could be wrong, think Igors Stepanovs has one? Actually that might have been the FA cup.

by GSC Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:49 pm

Gareth Barry has a PL winners medal

by Bull Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:50 pm

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:50 pm

Rafael is the best right back in the league so I don't know what you are on about.

by GG Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:51 pm

Ent wrote:Rafael is the best right back in the league so I don't know what you are on about.

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:51 pm

GSC wrote:Gareth Barry has a PL winners medal

This

by GSC Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:51 pm

Zabaleta is better, lettuce be reality

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:52 pm

Ent wrote:Rafael is the best right back in the league so I don't know what you are on about.

Pablo Zabaleta says hi

by GG Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:52 pm

GSC wrote:Gareth Barry has a PL winners medal

No wonder the PL has declined quality wise in the last few years...

by Duty281 Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:52 pm

4 more wins and they'll do it with a record points haul! Still plenty of areas to strengthen though, notably the centre of defence and midfield, to ensure United will be a genuine force in Europe next season - mind you, if Nani hadn't be sent off, I think they'd have beaten Madrid this year!

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:52 pm

GG wrote:
Ent wrote:Rafael is the best right back in the league so I don't know what you are on about.

Who's better?

by JPX Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:53 pm

Ent wrote:Rafael is the best right back in the league so I don't know what you are on about.

Oh Ent, I had respect for you before this comment.

by NickisBHAFC Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:54 pm

Ent wrote:
GG wrote:
Ent wrote:Rafael is the best right back in the league so I don't know what you are on about.

Who's better?

by Ent Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:54 pm

Olly wrote:
Ent wrote:Rafael is the best right back in the league so I don't know what you are on about.

Pablo Zabaleta says hi

Fair enough he is a top player.

Rafael has come of age this season, always terrific going forward but only a handful of errors at the back, he'll streak clear next season.

Anyway he certainly isn't the worst to win a medal.

by GSC Mon 22 Apr 2013, 9:55 pm

Rafael has improved defensively but I cant put him above Zabs

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