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Post by jack-rabbitpunch Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:23 pm

Wanting to move away from historical fights/fighters and the marque names out there, and take look at some less stellar names that currently ply thier trade in the ring.

Who do people enjoy watching, but know they are never going to be headlining the like of the MGM & MSG etc?

I like to watch Gary Buckland, solid puncher who can take a good shot but lacks the skill and finesse to really push on past European level.

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Post by Rowley Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:28 pm

Always enjoyed watching Jamie Moore, a little short of being able to mix at the top tier but rarely in a bad fight, frequently in absolute belters and seems one of the sports good guys as well. The same description could as readily be applied to Carl Thompson as well who I have similar respect for.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:30 pm

Katsidis.

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Post by jack-rabbitpunch Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:32 pm

[quote="Rowley"] frequently in absolute belters

The macklin fight being one of them!

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Post by Rowley Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:37 pm

As was the Rhodes one.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:38 pm

When I came here I loved watching Thaxton, Ryan, Farnell types.....when back home loved Brit guys like Sibson that always put on a show.........Loved his fight with Don Lee....classic..

Growing up enjoyed Brazier, Duarte, Davila, Laporte, Hatcher, Sandoval, Red Lopez, Bejines, Arroyo, Drayton............

Now well I kind of enjoy Bellew mostly..


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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:16 pm

Gary Buckland is a great shout Jack. Always enjoy watching him fight also!

Gavin Rees is another, although after his effort against Broner he may well end up having a handful of fights in the US (in MSG at least) on an undercard or something. Max Kellerman and the HBO boys seemed to praise him a lot. So it would be possible that they would consider televising him in future.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:18 pm

Why should Rees have a market in America just for being an entertaining punching bag???

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:23 pm

That is a good point, but the promoters need someone for their stars to beat up. Why not Rees??
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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:27 pm

And also, whos to say he will be a punchbag??

Against the right fighter, he might pull off a decent win. He has a crowd pleasing style.

Can see him on one of DiBella's cards, seeing as him and Hearn have a decent relationship.

Hes only been beat twice in about 40 fights. Hardly punchbag material
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Post by eddyfightfan Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:37 pm

gary sykes is a entertaining fighter, and always up for a challenge. he had a shot against broner that fell through, which was lucky for him.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:40 pm

Who is going to go and watch Rees in America??

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Post by jack-rabbitpunch Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:47 pm

He might not get many travelling fans, but like reebok says, could be used as someone to give a prospect 12 rds against someone who isnt going to knock them out, but will provide a little pressure

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Post by 88Chris05 Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:49 pm

Jason Booth, for me (calling him an 'also ran' is a bit harsh, but you get my drift). A local lad of course, which helps, but always had a great, chirpy attitude to the sport, has done a lot for 'grass roots' boxing in and around Nottingham, always appreciative to the perks boxing has given him and has also been involved in some excellent fights - no dog in him, for sure.

It's been a wee bit gutting for me to see him served up as an experience builder for guys like Quigg and Galahad in the past couple of years.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:49 pm

Why do it there for peanuts...............He can earn more money here fighting for British honors..

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:50 pm

Please read the part were I said about putting him on an undercard Truss...the main event will put the bums on seats. If people see Rees on HBO having a few wars then at least they know the undercard might be a little entertaining. Whats so hard to believe about that??

You're forgetting that John Duddy & Andy Lee used to feature on undercards in the US at one point.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:51 pm

and know they are over here...because no one was interested..

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:52 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Why do it there for peanuts...............He can earn more money here fighting for British honors..

Yea because the British title is like winning the lottery...........that should set him up for life.
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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:52 pm

John Duddy retired fighting in the US, and put plenty of bums on seats
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:53 pm

He was Irish...

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:59 pm

And?? He fought in Texas, Florida etc

I forgot about the crazy Irish who took over them parts!

Again, put Rees on undercards in the US and he will be more known.

Have him fighting in Doncaster Leisure centre?? Hes already been there and done that......stilly statement, he is in his 30s and won every domestic honour.

He deserves to have a go at the US. But hey, never mind about wanting to fight the best, they should all follow your advice and stick to fighting for minor belts.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:01 pm

They have big Irish-American communities in places like Houston, Dallas etc.....

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Post by Rowley Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:12 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:

Have him fighting in Doncaster Leisure centre??

Don't speak ill of Donny reborn, lovely part of the world. Could soon have its first world champion as well soon, come on Jamie

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:12 pm

And?

Massachusetts? Illinois? Florida? Connecticut?

And even when he started off on undercards in New York, the whole of the Irish American community knew him??

He made a name for himself just like any fighter with an agressive style can do if they get the chance to fight on HBO.

Rees was praised by Kellerman etc after the fight.

He was in a win/win situation as long as he showed balls. He did, he got stopped like most Broner opponents. But he also caught him more than a lot of the previous opponents of his.

I still don't understand why you would want someone who has just put up a brave showing on a main card on HBO to go back to Donny Leisure centre to fight for a few grand every few months.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:15 pm

You don't know much about America kiddo.....

All those places have big Irish American communities.....

I'm Irish American and from Massachusetts as were the Kennedy family....Heard of them!!

Rees is Welsh. past it and a punching bag..

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:19 pm

Hes been beaten twice in around 40 fights.....hardly a punch bag.

True, he may become one, but that could happen over here or over there.

Point being, people over there know who he is now due to fighting Broner............people over here still barely know him.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:27 pm

He got battered in four rounds from pillar to post and he'll gain a following from it???????

Starling-Honey couldn't sell............and they were respected names.

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Post by Mr Bounce Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:37 pm

I loved watching Fernando Vargas who was never really in a dull fight. That said though, he was a 2-time champ (although not top-drawer) so probably not valid in this case.

Wayne Alexander always was fun to watch as he had a hell of dig on him. I remember when he scared the hell out of Harry Simon on 24 hours' notice.

Michael Brodie was also good to watch.


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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:38 pm

Felt really sorry for Brodie..............If Jorrin wasn't Mexican he'd be able to tell his Grand kids he was world champion..

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Post by Rowley Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:40 pm

Very true Truss, have seen some stinkers decision wise but that was up there with the worst. Shameful that a decision like that could have been the difference for someone like Brodie being able to retire with his mortgage paid off.

Good call on Alexander Bounce, his fight with Samuels was a domestic Hagler Hearns and his knockout of Takaloo has to rank as one of the most chilling ever.

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Post by eddyfightfan Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:34 pm

derek chisora is always in a decent fight, though usually on the wrong end of the decision?

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