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Post by Taffineastbourne Sat May 04, 2013 12:03 pm

Looks like pretty good playing conditions up in Glasgow.
Fiji look awesome,admittedly against only Spain.Glad they are not in Wales'pool! Shocked
45-0!Ouch.

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Post by Taffineastbourne Sat May 04, 2013 12:23 pm

Wales 19-0France at half time.

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Post by Taffineastbourne Sat May 04, 2013 1:33 pm

Wales22-14 France F/T

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Post by Taffineastbourne Sat May 04, 2013 7:52 pm

Nobody interested in the 7's?
I shall desist

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Post by RDW Sat May 04, 2013 8:46 pm

Terrible day for Scottish 7s - dropped down to a new record low and we now have to qualify for the next tournament. Plus the crowd at Scotstoun looked pretty small - it was no where near full even for the England game at the peak time so would be surprised if it was anywhere near 10k.

What was missed disappointing was the lack of basic skills from the Scottish players - it was embarrassing.

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Post by GLove39 Sat May 04, 2013 11:10 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Terrible day for Scottish 7s - dropped down to a new record low and we now have to qualify for the next tournament. Plus the crowd at Scotstoun looked pretty small - it was no where near full even for the England game at the peak time so would be surprised if it was anywhere near 10k.

What was missed disappointing was the lack of basic skills from the Scottish players - it was embarrassing.

Well the SRU site has the attendance for today at 13,402 so fairly reasonable. (What's Scotstoun's capacity with all the extra stands?)
Speaking of the site, got to feel for the poor sod that has to put a positive spin on things
Scotland... will now face a relegation competition at Twickenham during next weekend’s Marriott London 7s to see if they can preserve their status as a core team on the IRB circuit.
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How long before the IRB take the Scotland leg elsewhere?

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Post by RDW Sat May 04, 2013 11:21 pm

There looked to be a lot of empty seats for 13k spectators! Can really see us losing the leg after the commonwealth games - lots of developing 7s countries out there.

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Post by UlstermaninGlasgow Sun May 05, 2013 12:56 am

It will be a crying shame if the Home of Sevens loses it's place on the tour... The beginning of the end was when it lost the place as the finale of the Sevens World Series to London. The guys were distraught today after the NZ game and there is a real fear that the SRU will cut the funding and we won't see a Scottish Sevens team again......
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Post by Hound of Harrow Sun May 05, 2013 2:28 am

Anyone who has been to a 7s tourny will know that it's a bit of a party inside, and outside, the playing arena, esp. if the games are screened in the bar areas.

If a capacity crowd is anticipated by tickets sold, it doesn't necessarily mean the stadium is packed.


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Post by maestegmafia Sun May 05, 2013 9:01 am

Not a bad performance by Wales again

Fiji, Wales, South Africa and New Zealand all progressed to the quarter finals on day one of the Glasgow Sevens with 100 per cent records.

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Post by Norfolklass Sun May 05, 2013 9:06 am

maestegmafia wrote:Not a bad performance by Wales again

Fiji, Wales, South Africa and New Zealand all progressed to the quarter finals on day one of the Glasgow Sevens with 100 per cent records.

Morning. Smile Who do Wales play, is it on TV?

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Post by maestegmafia Sun May 05, 2013 9:12 am

It's on sky sports

Wales are to play Canada next in the Quarters at 12:45 today.

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Post by Norfolklass Sun May 05, 2013 9:16 am

maestegmafia wrote:It's on sky sports

Wales are to play Canada next in the Quarters at 12:45 today.

Diolch. At my grandads in Llandudno. No Sky#bugger

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Post by maestegmafia Sun May 05, 2013 9:26 am

Norfolklass wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:It's on sky sports

Wales are to play Canada next in the Quarters at 12:45 today.

Diolch. At my grandads in Llandudno. No Sky#bugger

Bugger. Have a look on the IRB website for links. Or if you have a smart phone try the sky go app.

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Sun May 05, 2013 9:34 am

UlstermaninGlasgow wrote:It will be a crying shame if the Home of Sevens loses it's place on the tour... The beginning of the end was when it lost the place as the finale of the Sevens World Series to London. The guys were distraught today after the NZ game and there is a real fear that the SRU will cut the funding and we won't see a Scottish Sevens team again......
Sorry but I don't share your sympathy, UIG. If the players had been a touch distraught after the first 3 legs when they barely won a game all weekend long, I may have felt sorry for them. In the cold light of day, they have under delivered and not produced anyone for full international honours since the Evans brothers. We are not awash with cash and 7s is a luxury that we can well do without and not miss, I'm afraid.
PS No idea where the crowd numbers came from. I was there yesterday and there was nowhere near the 13,000 claimed by the IRB.

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Post by George Carlin Sun May 05, 2013 10:01 am

I really don't think that we should persist with 7s - the Irish are right.
I would also think this way even if we were actually good at it.

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Post by TJ1 Sun May 05, 2013 10:14 am

With Scotlands small player pool and the amount of 7s played on the circus its hard to see how we can compete in a pro 7s circus without damaging the 15s

We could make a great 7s team by taking the best from our 15s.

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Sun May 05, 2013 11:05 am

George Carlin wrote:I really don't think that we should persist with 7s - the Irish are right.
I would also think this way even if we were actually good at it.

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Is your sarcasm aimed at my comment, GC.If so, please explain how you would get round the problem of a team who seem to spend more time practicing their forearm bashes as a try celebration (not that they need to practice that too often) than improving their standard of play. As you stay in the UAE you may be immune to the fact that belts have to be tightened everywhere - why should an underperforming division of any industry or profession remain in place?

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Post by George Carlin Sun May 05, 2013 11:22 am

InjuredYetAgain wrote:
George Carlin wrote:I really don't think that we should persist with 7s - the Irish are right.
I would also think this way even if we were actually good at it.

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Is your sarcasm aimed at my comment, GC.If so, please explain how you would get round the problem of a team who seem to spend more time practicing their forearm bashes as a try celebration (not that they need to practice that too often) than improving their standard of play. As you stay in the UAE you may be immune to the fact that belts have to be tightened everywhere - why should an underperforming division of any industry or profession remain in place?
Ooh crikey - hang on Injured. It wasn't a pop at your comment and it's certainly not sarcasm.

I've mentioned this before on threads - it's genuinely what I think. I would so much rather the SRU put this into the professional clubs. I don't think Ireland suffers at all from not having a 7s side. I'd rather the SRU salted it away (not going to happen, what comes in goes out) and after 5 years, turned that seed money into the basis of a third professional team. I have been assured before that this is a curmudgeonly view, hence my Magoo hat.

I might live in the UAE, but I have a wife and a 16 month old girl that both like shoes. I am well aware of what belt tightening feels like. Shocked
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Post by funnyExiledScot Sun May 05, 2013 12:19 pm

I've always been a fan of 7s as a development tool, but I just don't think we use it properly, and players like jim fleming who have excelled at 7s just aren't getting the chance to make the next step.

If we drop out of the core group, we should certainly revisit its relevance. A good old cost benefit analysis required.

In theory we could have a pretty awesome 7s team mind:

Hogg, Visser and Maitland in the backs, with Gregor at scrum half, and a pack consisting of Vernon, Denton and Rennie. Handy.

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Post by CraigS1874 Sun May 05, 2013 12:38 pm

Good to see dean and glashan starting today, the sevens should be used or the youngsters instead of the likes of Houston etc. great game to develop skills but we don't have enough players

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Post by Imperialbigdave Sun May 05, 2013 1:14 pm

im sorry but if that was 13000 yesterday, I'm forest gump. Scotstouns normal seating capacity is what 5000 ish? the temp north stand (why do they need that one?) adds maybe 500 due to it being slightly longer than the permanent one, and the end zones maybe 3 or 4 thousand each, but neither were remotely filled out.

Unless they counted the mass exodus after the england game as people coming in rather than leaving...
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Post by maestegmafia Sun May 05, 2013 1:29 pm

Shame if they arent there as there is some great rugby going on...!

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Post by CraigS1874 Sun May 05, 2013 1:30 pm

Yeah no way near 13000. Was anybody on here there yesterday ? Atmosphere looked alright but nothing special, i will only go if its in edinburgh or the borders because If I want to stay till the last game in glasgow it means I don't get home till after 9 on a Saturday night.

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Post by maestegmafia Sun May 05, 2013 1:42 pm

tight game between England Fiji here... England penalty awarded three mins to go... Could make the semis

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Post by maestegmafia Sun May 05, 2013 1:56 pm

The referee of the Wales vs Canada match is the quickest bloke on the pitch by some margin, jees he can shift...

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Post by InjuredYetAgain Sun May 05, 2013 2:02 pm

George Carlin wrote:
InjuredYetAgain wrote:
George Carlin wrote:I really don't think that we should persist with 7s - the Irish are right.
I would also think this way even if we were actually good at it.

Yours,
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Is your sarcasm aimed at my comment, GC.If so, please explain how you would get round the problem of a team who seem to spend more time practicing their forearm bashes as a try celebration (not that they need to practice that too often) than improving their standard of play. As you stay in the UAE you may be immune to the fact that belts have to be tightened everywhere - why should an underperforming division of any industry or profession remain in place?
Ooh crikey - hang on Injured. It wasn't a pop at your comment and it's certainly not sarcasm.

I've mentioned this before on threads - it's genuinely what I think. I would so much rather the SRU put this into the professional clubs. I don't think Ireland suffers at all from not having a 7s side. I'd rather the SRU salted it away (not going to happen, what comes in goes out) and after 5 years, turned that seed money into the basis of a third professional team. I have been assured before that this is a curmudgeonly view, hence my Magoo hat.

I might live in the UAE, but I have a wife and a 16 month old girl that both like shoes. I am well aware of what belt tightening feels like. Shocked
My unreserved and public apology, GC. I thought the "Mr Magoo" signature was accusing me of being short sighted. And I agree entirely - Ireland and, to a lesser extent, France seem to cope quite well without 7s.
PS Wait until your daughter reaches 5 like mine and THEN you can come back to me and complain about the amount of shoes!!!

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Post by LondonTiger Sun May 05, 2013 2:21 pm

InjuredYetAgain wrote:
PS Wait until your daughter reaches 5 like mine and THEN you can come back to me and complain about the amount of shoes!!!

Try two daughters, rapidly approaching teendom far quicker than I am comfortable with. Fingers Crossed

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Post by Taffineastbourne Sun May 05, 2013 2:23 pm

Looks like Wales vNewZealand and South Africa v England Semi Finals.Wales v England Final???Maybe not.

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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Sun May 05, 2013 2:32 pm

Christ - I hope not . C'mon NZ and SA.
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Post by maestegmafia Sun May 05, 2013 3:35 pm

Taffineastbourne wrote:Looks like Wales vNewZealand and South Africa v England Semi Finals.Wales v England Final???Maybe not.

The kiwis and Saffas look unstoppable.

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Post by GLove39 Sun May 05, 2013 4:11 pm

So we're knocked out of our own tournament by Kenya (24-19)

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Post by RDW Sun May 05, 2013 4:11 pm

Scotland really have been crap this weekend. Terrible, terrible basic skills, real lack of physicallity and the only player with pace in the team was Lee Jones. Indeed their only tactic seemed to be pass it to Jones!

Byron Mcguiqan really is pish.

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Post by Imperialbigdave Sun May 05, 2013 4:18 pm

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Byron Mcguiqan really is pish.

seconded. what does he bring other than man sausage up after man sausage up?
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Post by RDW Sun May 05, 2013 4:19 pm

At least he knows he's pish - he's always apologising on Twitter for playing rubbish!

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Post by GLove39 Sun May 05, 2013 4:29 pm

Was watching the highlights for day one on Rugbydump, where did the SRU get 13,000 + attendance from!? For most of the games looks like 10,000 must have been queuing at the bar...

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Post by allyt2k Sun May 05, 2013 4:42 pm

Can't touch the glasgow players but Edinburgh have nothing else to do
Stuart McInally, Hamish Watson, Tim Visser, Dougie Fife get these guys in next week no point of them sitting around doing nothing, not being in the core teams when where hosting the commonwealth games will be a media disaster for the SRU and most likely a loss of funding from sport Scotland.

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Post by Imperialbigdave Sun May 05, 2013 4:43 pm

allyt2k wrote:Can't touch the glasgow players but Edinburgh have nothing else to do
Stuart McInally, Hamish Watson, Tim Visser, Dougie Fife get these guys in next week no point of them sitting around doing nothing, not being in the core teams when where hosting the commonwealth games will be a media disaster for the SRU and most likely a loss of funding from sport Scotland.

Theyve probably all gone on their monthly holidays to the other side of the world.
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Post by Taffineastbourne Sun May 05, 2013 4:49 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
Taffineastbourne wrote:Looks like Wales vNewZealand and South Africa v England Semi Finals.Wales v England Final???Maybe not.

The kiwis and Saffas look unstoppable.
I am afraid that you are right! Fingers Crossed

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Post by maestegmafia Sun May 05, 2013 5:01 pm

Taffineastbourne wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:
Taffineastbourne wrote:Looks like Wales vNewZealand and South Africa v England Semi Finals.Wales v England Final???Maybe not.

The kiwis and Saffas look unstoppable.
I am afraid that you are right! Fingers Crossed

Well we have been in the Semis before, we have beaten the most talented teams before as well. So I agree, fingers crossed.

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Post by The Saint Sun May 05, 2013 5:03 pm

South Africa are looking very good right now, aren't they. I have a feeling Wales will struggle to get within 14 points of New Zealand.

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Post by Hound of Harrow Sun May 05, 2013 5:20 pm

SA 24-17 England in the first sf.

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Post by The Saint Sun May 05, 2013 5:25 pm

It sounds as if the commentator is enjoying his job. He hasn't shut up.
Unfortunately Wales are 7 nil down and looking fatigued already, nowhere near good enough.

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Post by The Saint Sun May 05, 2013 5:25 pm

Good try from Wales.

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Post by Biltong Sun May 05, 2013 5:29 pm

Wales in the lead at halftime 14-7
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Post by The Saint Sun May 05, 2013 5:30 pm

Wales ahead, showing some All Black enterprise by continuing to go for the try in the dying seconds of the half. Now that I look at the Sevens squad it has some good Welsh players. Hope they can go on to win this now and make me an even prouder Welshman.

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Post by GLove39 Sun May 05, 2013 5:32 pm

Imperialbigdave wrote:
allyt2k wrote:Can't touch the glasgow players but Edinburgh have nothing else to do
Stuart McInally, Hamish Watson, Tim Visser, Dougie Fife get these guys in next week no point of them sitting around doing nothing, not being in the core teams when where hosting the commonwealth games will be a media disaster for the SRU and most likely a loss of funding from sport Scotland.

Theyve probably all gone on their monthly holidays to the other side of the world.

Yep, by the sounds of it Visser's beatled off to Spain. Suppose he was in need of a break, it's been like a whole weeks since he (and judging by the photos a lot of the other Edinburgh players) was larking about in Holland...

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Post by The Saint Sun May 05, 2013 5:34 pm

Wales behind, wah Sad

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Post by Imperialbigdave Sun May 05, 2013 5:36 pm

GLove39 wrote:
Imperialbigdave wrote:
allyt2k wrote:Can't touch the glasgow players but Edinburgh have nothing else to do
Stuart McInally, Hamish Watson, Tim Visser, Dougie Fife get these guys in next week no point of them sitting around doing nothing, not being in the core teams when where hosting the commonwealth games will be a media disaster for the SRU and most likely a loss of funding from sport Scotland.

Theyve probably all gone on their monthly holidays to the other side of the world.

Yep, by the sounds of it Visser's beatled off to Spain. Suppose he was in need of a break, it's been like a whole weeks since he (and judging by the photos a lot of the other Edinburgh players) was larking about in Holland...

He was in dubai about 2 weeks before that aswell.
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Post by The Saint Sun May 05, 2013 5:40 pm

NZ - SA final as expected. Gutted Wales lost but they did at least try, the All Blacks like every other SH team were able to find another gear to step it up when it mattered most. Do we play England now or is that it?

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