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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 10 May 2013, 1:27 pm

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Welcome to Season 5 of the Aviva Premiership fantasty rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at it’s discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the matchday 22's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have a listed senior academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the senior academy must be under 22 years of age as of 1st September 2012 (therefore must have been born on or after 1st Septmber 1990). Players who are under the age of 20 (so born after 1st September 1992) AND are in the academy of the club that you are managing in real life, DO NOT need to be listed as senior academy players as part of your 20, but are available to you in this game and cannot be poached by other clubs without paying you a fee.

Should a player not listed in your 20 senior academy players, but part of the clubs academy in real life move clubs in real life, then you will have first option of promoting him to your listed senior academy. If you choose not to take this option he will become property of the club that he moves to in real life in this game.

Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 3 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Championship/National League bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on it's own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    Foreign transfers will unlimited during the off season and 2 during the season. The exact dates of the two transfer windows during the season is to be confirmed.


Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

If a released player plays in real life for a team outside of this game he will be deemed to have returned to that team. If not then he will be deemed to have signed for a Championship side. If another manager wants to pick a released player up, they will have to bid for him in the same way as for a foreign or Championship/National League player.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A thread will be put up for managers to name their teams on Thursdays, then on Fridays, managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your matchday 23, and at least 5 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£1.5m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Sat 01 Jun 2013, 12:47 pm

Great reffing I am surprised. That would be a red at ap level

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 01 Jun 2013, 12:54 pm

Farrell off the boil a bit
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:01 pm

Farrell's form has really dropped off recently, people just seem to try and rile him and it works.

BaaBaas so much better this week - conditions must really be playing a part though, as you'd think that with all the Welsh players in the team there would be a lot more cohesion for Lions.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:12 pm

POC has been immense

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:20 pm

Poc, gray, vunipola, jd2 and hogg been good. Hogg hit good lines which if it wasn't sweaty he'd have taken more ball.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:22 pm

If he wasn't a sweaty??? Bit harsh prop lol

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:27 pm

Castro is getting mullered

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:28 pm

Very difficult to take a lot from this as conditions are so tough - Lions should get to 50 points in this game.

Played rugby in Hong Kong just after finishing university and it is mad, any evening game and the ball was like a bar of soap due to the humidity - crazy place to have the first game.

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Post by Guest Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:29 pm

To be fair today is not a test but Hogg gray poc and Hibbard looking good. Hard to judge form in this game and conditions

Shows the importance of units in a scrum. Poor old James is getting a hiding but its expected as none of them have played together

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:31 pm

Encouraging from the pack, all 8 bar Lydiate(who's been terrible imo) have been excellent.

The scrum has been great, typical Phillips.....dreadful SH but attacks the fringes better than anyone else.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:32 pm

I don't think James is getting hammered, think he's actually holding Jones up well, it's Brits and Castro that are getting mullered. Jones has actually went down early quite a few times.

All about units though.

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:35 pm

Lydiate been quiet but he is mainly a defending 6 and hasn't had free running barbarians to chop down!!
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:35 pm

Lydiate shouldnt have gone on the tour, when you have a player like Wood who missed out.

If he'd played all season, but was it 2-3 games and then he's a Lion. Makes no sense. Great player but didn't earn it when selection was meant to be on form.

Can't help but feel that taking just 2 flyhalves was stupid.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:36 pm

I think he looks lost Prop, doesn't seem to know who to pick up. Really odd choice for a tour to Aus imo

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:42 pm

To be honest a lot of welsh fans were shocked. I would have had lydiate on standby instead.
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:44 pm

Lydiate is a very good player though, does a lot of unseen work - on his day he's one of Wales' most important players, does remind me of Richard Hill. But shouldn't have got a seat ahead of Wood.

Mike Phillips is a class act.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:47 pm

Phillips top player but dreadul scrum half, nobody else can touch the ball!

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Post by prop_lyd Sat 01 Jun 2013, 1:48 pm

A 6 should be heard and not seen!

shocked at how well phillips is playing.
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Post by CJB Sat 01 Jun 2013, 6:00 pm

Too many backrowers lads

Luke Narraway
David Seymour
Chris Henry
Brad Shields**
JMF Lobbe **
Rhys Ruddock*
Ben McCalman

could all leave

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 7:35 pm

Anybody got a link to the game? Can't believe it's not on tv

Just seen its tomorrow not tonight

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Post by Fluxy Sat 01 Jun 2013, 7:46 pm

What game?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 7:49 pm

Rumoured AB squad:

Outside backs: Israel Dagg, Julian Savea, Ben Smith, Charles Piutau

Midfield: Conrad Smith, Ma'a Nonu, Rene Ranger, Francis Saili

First five-eighths: Dan Carter, Aaron Cruden, Beauden Barrett

Halfbacks: Piri Weepu, Aaron Smith, Tawera Kerr-Barlow

Loose-forwards: Kieran Read, Victor Vito, Liam Messam, Steve Luatua, Sam Cane

Locks: Brodie Retallick, Luke Romano, Jeremy Thrush, Sam Whitelock/Craig Clarke

Hookers: Andrew Hore, Keven Mealamu, Dane Coles

Props: Owen Franks, Tony Woodcock, Ben Franks, Ben Afeaki, Wyatt Crockett.

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Post by Fluxy Sat 01 Jun 2013, 7:56 pm

Where's Halai?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 8:03 pm

Fluxy wrote:What game?

England v Arg XV

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Post by Fluxy Sat 01 Jun 2013, 8:07 pm

Didn't realise they were playing. I have a couple of sites will pm.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 01 Jun 2013, 8:16 pm

I'll be driving to work, have to dl it if on

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Post by Guest Sat 01 Jun 2013, 11:48 pm

Fluxy wrote:Where's Halai?


His defence is all over the place. Very raw like pitua. Nz actually look weak in that Back 3.

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Post by Guest Sat 01 Jun 2013, 11:51 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Rumoured AB squad:

Outside backs: Israel Dagg, Julian Savea, Ben Smith, Charles Piutau

Midfield: Conrad Smith, Ma'a Nonu, Rene Ranger, Francis Saili

First five-eighths: Dan Carter, Aaron Cruden, Beauden Barrett

Halfbacks: Piri Weepu, Aaron Smith, Tawera Kerr-Barlow

Loose-forwards: Kieran Read, Victor Vito, Liam Messam, Steve Luatua, Sam Cane

Locks: Brodie Retallick, Luke Romano, Jeremy Thrush, Sam Whitelock/Craig Clarke

Hookers: Andrew Hore, Keven Mealamu, Dane Coles

Props: Owen Franks, Tony Woodcock, Ben Franks, Ben Afeaki, Wyatt Crockett.


Can't believe mealamu being considered
He is shot to pieces and been awful at basics this year.

Also Clarke off to Ireland so can't see being picked although bird injury may neccesitate it.

Sam Whitelock possibly best forward in world so is a definite that's for sure

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 02 Jun 2013, 10:38 am

NZ lads on main board reckon Dagg should be dropped and they should go with Smith & Piutau as FB options.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Sun 02 Jun 2013, 11:52 am

See Brits is banned for the first three games of next season.

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Jun 2013, 6:21 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:NZ lads on main board reckon Dagg should be dropped and they should go with Smith & Piutau as FB options.


To be fair most posters are from Auckland and the crusaders are not liked in nz. I saw one chap the other day moaning about Kieran read which is absurd

Dagg been in miserable form but is a better defender, attacker and kicker than the other 2 by quite
A bit.


Smith and pitua are fantastic to watch but both poor defensively and in pitua can't kick and kicking is a huge part of nz game plan.

Pitua is young and his kicking and defence will improve I expect him to challenge Dagg for the 15 shirt long term. Great prospect

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 02 Jun 2013, 6:24 pm

Guys at Quins who can leave (will be released otherwise)

Will Collier
Wyatt Crockett
Taku Ngwenya
Merab Sharikadze (Academy for few more years)
Ope Peleseuma (Academy for another year or so, in Hurricanes wider training squad)

Guys who I am prepared to listen to offers on (stars require a little more):

Gary Botha
Ben Franks*
Hugh Pyle*
James Gaskell
Will Welch
Nick Easter*
Karl Dickson
Michael Harris
Florian Fritz*
Anthony Faainga
Matt Smith

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 02 Jun 2013, 8:08 pm

Billy V Hattrick after 35 mins with Fodes getting the other.

Decent after slow start

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Post by dammit_chris Sun 02 Jun 2013, 8:49 pm

England game link:

http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/videohub/video/clipDeportes?id=1815921&cc=7586

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 02 Jun 2013, 11:36 pm

Glad Billy went well despite being unsure on him we need another 8.

See if I can dl it, although doesn't sound a great match

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 03 Jun 2013, 8:26 am

British & Irish Lions side: Leigh Halfpenny (Wales), Tommy Bowe (Ireland), Brian O'Driscoll (Ireland, captain), Manu Tuilagi (England), George North (Wales), Jonathan Sexton (Ireland), Conor Murray (Ireland), Cian Healy (Ireland), Rory Best (Ireland), Dan Cole (England), Alyn Wyn Jones (Wales), Ian Evans (Wales), Tom Croft (England), Sean O'Brien (Ireland), Jamie Heaslip (Ireland),

Replacements: Tom Youngs (England), Mako Vunipola (England), Matt Stevens (England), Geoff Parling (England), Toby Faletau (Wales), Ben Youngs (England), Owen Farrell (England), Sean Maitland (Scotland)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 03 Jun 2013, 8:34 am

Hearing Kearney has a nasty injury, could be ruled out of tour

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Post by stnick88 Mon 03 Jun 2013, 9:01 am

it was a pretty poor game.

considering the opposition it wasnt an impressive performance.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 03 Jun 2013, 10:17 am

Reckon they could soon be calling up Wilkinson for the tour, especially as the Aussies are going to blatantly target Farrell and I don't think he will be able to not react.

England game was odd - we were good in second and third quarters, but really struggled in the other parts of the game, though some of the officiating was very bad - giving Corbs a yellowcard for a scrum infringement was something I haven't seen in an international before (early engagement).

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Mon 03 Jun 2013, 11:30 am

Timani and Higginbotham all but out of the Lions series. Beale back training with the Aussies.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 03 Jun 2013, 11:38 am

Lads on main board saying Foden & Eastmond went well.

Also Billy V wasn't very good(3 tries??) and Thomas a bit out of depth in scrum?

Can't find it to dl Sad

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 03 Jun 2013, 11:45 am

Foden was best player for England, alongside Wood.

Corbs conceded more penalties than Thomas in the scrum, but I don't think you can read anything into the scrums, purely because how it was officiated.

Every call was really against England. Should have put 60+ points on them really.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 03 Jun 2013, 11:55 am

I seen Corbs got a yellow but was something not in the scrum apparently,

Thomas not a strong scrummager so unit may have struggled, heard it improved when PDJ came on,

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Post by stnick88 Mon 03 Jun 2013, 11:59 am

Foden looked excellent as did Eastmond. But the oppositon was poor so not reading in to it too much.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 03 Jun 2013, 12:14 pm

No Corbs got yellow for early engagement at the scrum, did 2-3 in a row - was a bizarre call as was never a yellow card in a million years.

Ref was so bad though.

Interesting to see Gatland moving Tuilagi to 12, thought he would do it as he likes to have that powerful strike runner from there in all of his teams. If it comes off could be good for England long term.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 03 Jun 2013, 12:21 pm

Gatland likes a 12 who can't/doesn't pass, Tuilagi should fit in nice

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Post by Fluxy Mon 03 Jun 2013, 12:22 pm

I was always looking forward to a BOD/Tuilagi midfield. Dream combination almost. If SBW and BOD every played in the same side, they'd win before stepping on a field.

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Post by dammit_chris Mon 03 Jun 2013, 4:38 pm

England highlights

http://www.rfu.com/news/2013/june/news-articles/030613_consur_highlights

My Spanish isn't up to much these days but during the game I am sure the commentators said that one of the opposition was a player at Sale.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 03 Jun 2013, 5:17 pm

Fodens defence looked awful in those clips, what's happened to him!

The dummy from Billy V will go down as one of the worst ever, pure comedy.

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Post by Fluxy Mon 03 Jun 2013, 5:22 pm

Foden took his try well. But he has that air of making a mistake in defence now, like poitrenaud for France.

Billy v was a bit arrogant there I thought, should've pliers through him and dotted it down

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