Team Mayweather: 147 for Canelo or no fight

According to Steve Kim, Team Mayweather is saying that WBA/WBC junior middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez will have to come down to 147 if he wants to fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. on September 14th. There won’t be a catchweight of 150 and Mayweather won’t move up in weight to fight Canelo at his weight.

bellchees wrote:

sittingringside wrote:I can't believe people are defending this claim if it's true. If he doesn't want the fight, then that's alright I guess, he's at a point in his career where he gets to basically pick the fights he wants. I just don't want to hear anyone claim that he genuinely wanted the fight if it doesn't get made. The idea that Alvarez could get down to 147 is ridiculous, he's getting bigger all the time and will probably end up at Middleweight in the next few years.

Alvarez should agree to it with no intention of actually making weight like Floyd did against Marquez.

TopHat24/7 wrote:

bellchees wrote:

sittingringside wrote:I can't believe people are defending this claim if it's true. If he doesn't want the fight, then that's alright I guess, he's at a point in his career where he gets to basically pick the fights he wants. I just don't want to hear anyone claim that he genuinely wanted the fight if it doesn't get made. The idea that Alvarez could get down to 147 is ridiculous, he's getting bigger all the time and will probably end up at Middleweight in the next few years.

Alvarez should agree to it with no intention of actually making weight like Floyd did against Marquez.

+1

Haha yeh, beat Floyd at his own game!

azania wrote:Floyd is no more than a LWW. If Canelo wants to make the dollars and fight the best, drop down in weight. Its not as if he hasn't fought there before. Fight for Floyd's title at WW.

Why should Floyd go running to him?

azania wrote:He chose not to make the weight. Any boxer who rehydrates to 150 from 147 can make 135 let alone 140.

He is a champion at 154 is more due to his skill than he being big at the weight. He is always outweighed in fights.

azania wrote:

Why should Floyd go running to him?

The snarling Duran of 1975, who tortured Ray Lampkin, is widely regarded as the finest lightweight creature of all time. But he didn’t fight anyone like Mayweather, who emerged from a crisis against Jose Luis Castillo in 2002 improved and victorious.

Just after both fighters have weighed in on the division limit, Floyd Mayweather walks straight at Roberto Duran.

“Get ready Roberta, get ready for a beating,” he barks. Duran stares into Mayweather’s soul. “C’mon on Roberta, you got something to say?” An assassin’s smile appears on Duran’s face. He points to Mayweather, then to the floor, and blows a kiss.

When battle begins, the American is intent on scoring first and he times Roberto’s rage perfectly – a three punch volley connects. Duran doesn’t blink, walks forward and plunges a ferocious right deep into his rival’s ribs. Game on.

Duran is at his best, technically brilliant and controlling the pace. Mayweather is struggling to cope but he is not being dominated, zippy combos find their target regularly. But come round six, Duran has sampled enough of Mayweather’s punches to know he can take them. And if you can’t hurt Duran, he hurts you.

By round 10, Mayweather is exhausted. And there is nowhere to hide. Duran pins him in a corner and throws out hell. Each part of Mayweather’s upper body is under attack. His stomach, his neck, his arms, his face. He’s out on his feet. After 2:46 of the session, the referee halts the shellacking.

“Well,” Larry Merchant says, “that’s what happens when you annoy Roberta Duran.”

TopHat24/7 wrote:Pahahaha I honestly don't think the authors could possibly have written a better piece to bait Truss and Az (but Truss in particular).

Cue "rolled like a drunk...."

Boxtthis wrote:

azania wrote:

Why should Floyd go running to him?

To prove his greatness? It's not about what's fair. If Floyd wants to be considered truly great then he's got to be held to different standards. He could really prove something by beating Canelo at 154 and being the undisputed JMW title holder. But, he probably won't. For me, the way he goes about picking his fights just ever so slightly undermines his genius in the ring. I get the impression that this is the case for many boxing fans.

azania wrote:

Boxtthis wrote:

azania wrote:

Why should Floyd go running to him?

To prove his greatness? It's not about what's fair. If Floyd wants to be considered truly great then he's got to be held to different standards. He could really prove something by beating Canelo at 154 and being the undisputed JMW title holder. But, he probably won't. For me, the way he goes about picking his fights just ever so slightly undermines his genius in the ring. I get the impression that this is the case for many boxing fans.

The challenger doesn't run to the champion anymore? You guys are making this hyped ginger chump to be something special. After Floyd slaps him it will be back to the same styte. You guys will be screaming for Floyd to fight GGG.

azania wrote:Floyd is also a champion at 147; his preferred weight. Let the challenger meet the champ at the champs preferred weight.

TopHat24/7 wrote:Floyd Mayweather (2003) versus Roberto Duran (1975)

The snarling Duran of 1975, who tortured Ray Lampkin, is widely regarded as the finest lightweight creature of all time. But he didn’t fight anyone like Mayweather, who emerged from a crisis against Jose Luis Castillo in 2002 improved and victorious.

Just after both fighters have weighed in on the division limit, Floyd Mayweather walks straight at Roberto Duran.

“Get ready Roberta, get ready for a beating,” he barks. Duran stares into Mayweather’s soul. “C’mon on Roberta, you got something to say?” An assassin’s smile appears on Duran’s face. He points to Mayweather, then to the floor, and blows a kiss.

When battle begins, the American is intent on scoring first and he times Roberto’s rage perfectly – a three punch volley connects. Duran doesn’t blink, walks forward and plunges a ferocious right deep into his rival’s ribs. Game on.

Duran is at his best, technically brilliant and controlling the pace. Mayweather is struggling to cope but he is not being dominated, zippy combos find their target regularly. But come round six, Duran has sampled enough of Mayweather’s punches to know he can take them. And if you can’t hurt Duran, he hurts you.

By round 10, Mayweather is exhausted. And there is nowhere to hide. Duran pins him in a corner and throws out hell. Each part of Mayweather’s upper body is under attack. His stomach, his neck, his arms, his face. He’s out on his feet. After 2:46 of the session, the referee halts the shellacking.

“Well,” Larry Merchant says, “that’s what happens when you annoy Roberta Duran.”

azania wrote:

Boxtthis wrote:

azania wrote:

Why should Floyd go running to him?

To prove his greatness? It's not about what's fair. If Floyd wants to be considered truly great then he's got to be held to different standards. He could really prove something by beating Canelo at 154 and being the undisputed JMW title holder. But, he probably won't. For me, the way he goes about picking his fights just ever so slightly undermines his genius in the ring. I get the impression that this is the case for many boxing fans.

The challenger doesn't run to the champion anymore? You guys are making this hyped ginger chump to be something special. After Floyd slaps him it will be back to the same styte. You guys will be screaming for Floyd to fight GGG.

azania wrote:It's not as though Saul hasn't fought at ww before. The ginger nut wanrs all the advantages. It wouldn't surprise me if he insisted on 50/50 with you guys saying its reasonable.

Adam D wrote:

azania wrote:Floyd is also a champion at 147; his preferred weight. Let the challenger meet the champ at the champs preferred weight.

No problem with that if he gives up his middleweight belt.

You can't cal yourself a middleweight champ but not fight at the weight if your opponent looks tough.

Paper champ is our floyd