Euro Division Homepage LVIII

by **Afro** Wed 15 May 2013, 1:34 pm

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606V2 EURODivision

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Tactics due by 11.59 on Friday 24th May

PLEASE NOTE - this season you will receive a 1 point deduction if you do not submit tactics (as well as a default loss) and a 1 point deduction if you do not vote. If you know in advance you are unable to do either, then you must state so on the Holidays/Days Off page, to avoid the penalties.

Teams in the Premier League, PM tactics to Sodhat and GSC, send votes to Afro and Olly
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Friday 24th May
Final League Game & Cup Final tactics in

Tuesday 28th May
votes for final games in

Wednesday 29th May
new lawyers posted
final results posted via live text
End of Season (£26.5m) TP window open

Tuesday 4th June
End of seasons lawyers posted

Wednesday 5th June
End of Season (£26.5m) TP window closes, results by end of that week depending on GSC

Tuesday 11th June
start of season 3, week 1
new lawyers and injuries posted

Friday 14th June
tactics for first league game due

Tuesday 25th June
TP increase to £27.5m

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Top Scorers

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Atalanta Falcons - Sodhat

Tactics

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FC ElphickForJustice - Cherries

Lawyers

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Moleicester City - Fernando

Table

VFL Bassender Steigen - Treble

Top Scorers

by GSC Tue 21 May 2013, 2:16 pm

Zaha is raw and inconsistent tbf.

8 or 9 times out of 10 Baines would eat him for breakfast, but the the other times Zaha would take him apart. Get a random number generator I guess

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 21 May 2013, 2:25 pm

Zaha has been inconsistent this season. Had patches where hes looked good & longer periods where hes gone missing, especially towards end of the season.
He did turn up for Palace in what was their biggest game of the season so far.
tbh he needs to work hard when he gets to Man United. If he does that, learns from those around him he can improve & become better.

by **Afro** Tue 21 May 2013, 2:27 pm

From what I have seen of Zaha, I can't see him getting much of a look in at United next season. He doesn't do it enough consistently for Moyes, and he will spend a lot of time on the bench, with the occasional appearance as an impact sub.

by GSC Tue 21 May 2013, 2:30 pm

I think he might get loaned

by Guest Tue 21 May 2013, 2:30 pm

So we're not playing the game then Laugh

I've seen Baines get pulled apart this year by Kyle Walker (Spurs 2-2 Everton), Antonio Valencia (United 2-0 Everton), Charles N'Zogbia (Everton 3-3 Villa) and several others that I can't look up right now because I have to go to a meeting Smile

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 21 May 2013, 2:31 pm

As I said Afro, if he works hard he can earn a chance to which he must take. He is still young so I dont expect wonders form him next season.

by Marky Tue 21 May 2013, 2:32 pm

Zaha is the player Arsene Wenger would spend £15m on, not Ferguson. He's not the finished article yet, not by a long way.

by Fernando Tue 21 May 2013, 2:33 pm

In the light of the arguments over not rating people and saying their dump

Name 5 players that you don't rate but everyone does Whistle

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 21 May 2013, 2:36 pm

Fernando wrote:In the light of the arguments over not rating people and saying their dump

Name 5 players that you don't rate but everyone does

1. Ali Al Habsi - Just don't see it. Massively overrated in my opinion.
2. Bradley Johnson - Norwich fans love him. He's Poopie
3. Tom Cleverley/Danny Welbeck - I just don't get it. They're not good enough.
4. Steven Pienaar - Dunno why, I just don't.
5. Winston Reid - Frak you Soddy

by sodhat Tue 21 May 2013, 2:38 pm

Winston was Hammer of the Year this year, and well deserved too. Although somehow Jaaskelainen was 2nd, and I think he's been lucky to not have cost us more times...

by Marky Tue 21 May 2013, 2:39 pm

Fernando wrote:In the light of the arguments over not rating people and saying their dump

Name 5 players that you don't rate but everyone does

Can't think of 5, but off the top of my head;

Michael Carrick
Leandro Damiao
Stevan Jovetic
~~Wilfried Zaha~~

by sodhat Tue 21 May 2013, 2:41 pm

Neymar
Mario Gomez
Alexis Sanchez
Theo Walcott, to some extent

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 21 May 2013, 2:42 pm

sodhat wrote:Winston was Hammer of the Year this year, and well deserved too. Although somehow Jaaskelainen was 2nd, and I think he's been lucky to not have cost us more times...

I was only joking, couldn't think of a 5th guy!

BASSONG! won our player of the year, with Snodgrass 2nd. Johnson somehow came 3rd despite never being our best midfielder for a sustained period of time (Tettey at the start of the season, Howson towards the end of the season)

Michael Turner won Players player of the year. So not only I recognise his greatness

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 21 May 2013, 2:42 pm

Actually my 5th one would be Podolski

by Guest Tue 21 May 2013, 2:46 pm

Rooney
Carrick
Hazard
Tevez
Arteta

Would be five of mine.

by sodhat Tue 21 May 2013, 2:47 pm

I'd probably add Joe Hart you know.

Not as good as others seem to think, in my own opinion.

by Russell_Elmo Tue 21 May 2013, 2:48 pm

How comes Giroud's name hasn't come up? :P

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 21 May 2013, 2:48 pm

thats 6 player Olly lol.

1. Mathieu Debuchy - If giving fouls & being sent of counted he would be rated top of the pile.
2. Bentekkers - one season wonder
3. Toni Kroos - hes average at best.
4. - Podolski - his name carries that of a marquee signing but hes far from it.
5. Xabi Alonso - All he does is pass the ball, make a few interceptions & because his starts are up there for those two things hes rated, its a farce. Him, Carrick, Xavi all overrated.

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 21 May 2013, 2:49 pm

How comes Giroud's name hasn't come up? :P

Hes actually done well in his first season. I dont rate him highly but I rate him more than Grant Holt

by Fernando Tue 21 May 2013, 2:49 pm

1) Toni Kroos
2) Tom Cleverley
3) Angel Di Maria
4) Hatem Ben Arfa
5) Marek Hamsik

Whistle

by Guest Tue 21 May 2013, 2:50 pm

Err, Hamsik? Laugh

by Russell_Elmo Tue 21 May 2013, 2:51 pm

My votes go to..

Giroud
Podolski
The rest of the arsenal squad (kidding)
Nasri
Carrick
Kalou....

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 21 May 2013, 2:52 pm

Hamsik

Nando, he has 2 In Form cards on FIFA UT. That means hes sick! Dont you know that?
EDIT: + his haircut

by **Hero** Tue 21 May 2013, 2:52 pm

1. Joao Moutinho
2. Gonzalez Higuain
3. Pedro
4. Negrado
5. Young/Valencia/Nani

by Russell_Elmo Tue 21 May 2013, 2:53 pm

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:Hamsik
Nando, he has 2 In Form cards on FIFA UT. That means hes sick! Dont you know that?

Because FIFA/EA knows all, right?! Wink

by **Afro** Tue 21 May 2013, 2:53 pm

I can't believe anyone would have Kroos on the list. The guy that has made Bayern tick for most of a season, where they are close to being proved to be the best team in Europe.

by sodhat Tue 21 May 2013, 2:54 pm

Benzema as well

Afro will go spare when he sees you've put Kroos down, ZZZ

by Bull Tue 21 May 2013, 2:55 pm

1.Neymar
2.Huntalaar
3.Gomez
4.Valancia
5.Hulk

Hulk replaces Nasri

by **Afro** Tue 21 May 2013, 2:55 pm

Mine would be

Moutinho
Soldado ( I rate him, but not as highly as most)
Cleverley
Pedro
Chiellini

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 21 May 2013, 2:55 pm

Russell_Elmo wrote:
Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:Hamsik
Nando, he has 2 In Form cards on FIFA UT. That means hes sick! Dont you know that?

Because FIFA/EA knows all, right?!

lol Thats it Russ, £A $ports know all.

Afro will go spare when he sees you've put Kroos down, ZZZ

I know year, im waiting for it.....

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 21 May 2013, 2:56 pm

Chiellini !!! He must defo go on the list. Some people talk about him like hes a god.

Scholes+ makes the list for me Whistle

by **Afro** Tue 21 May 2013, 2:58 pm

Who is Wilshere +?

That is some player, a kind of Scholes++

by Fernando Tue 21 May 2013, 2:58 pm

im presuming he means Chamberlain?

by sodhat Tue 21 May 2013, 2:59 pm

Kevin Nolan also goes on the list

It's a silly argument to say "he does nothing but score goals", but I'm going there.

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 21 May 2013, 2:59 pm

It says Scholes+ Afro.

Xabi Alonso, Carrick, Arteta all make the list too.

I reckon most of the Man United Champions team makes the list of overrated too. bar RVP a lot of them would be on it

by **Hero** Tue 21 May 2013, 3:03 pm

I'd also have Soldado on there as well as Negrado. For me the pair of them are lauded higher than they should be due to being in a different league when for me they're just really the Spanish version of Darren Bent.

by GSC Tue 21 May 2013, 3:03 pm

21.9m to spend on a winger.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 21 May 2013, 3:03 pm

Ok guys here comes the inevitable, who are you 5 most UNDERRATED players

by **Hero** Tue 21 May 2013, 3:04 pm

Oh and award for the guy who was at one point so over in these games but had the biggest fall from grace...

M'Vila.

by Guest Tue 21 May 2013, 3:05 pm

Ganso Hero, Ganso wins that award comfortably.

by sodhat Tue 21 May 2013, 3:08 pm

Ganso was a shocker at £60m

I remember a time when people were saying Falcao was nothing but a good Europa League goalscorer...

by **Afro** Tue 21 May 2013, 3:09 pm

M'Vila deserved his rating when he first had it. He just believed his hype too much and stopped playing as well.

by **Hero** Tue 21 May 2013, 3:11 pm

sodhat wrote:Ganso was a shocker at £60m

I remember a time when people were saying Falcao was nothing but a good Europa League goalscorer...

I remember those days too (cough Afro)
I also recall having Nick and Viva pouring scorn on me for daring to suggest Jordi Alba would become the no1 Spanish left back.

by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Tue 21 May 2013, 3:11 pm

who are you 5 most UNDERRATED players

Zaha

by Guest Tue 21 May 2013, 3:12 pm

Most under-rated:

Jack Wilshere
Jakub Blaszczykowski
Pablo Zabaleta
Youssef Mulumbu
Matthew Lowton

by cherriesfna Tue 21 May 2013, 3:12 pm

yeah ganso whos that dont remmener anything abouth him lDIDAHDIDAH

by cherriesfna Tue 21 May 2013, 3:13 pm

UNDERATED

BONY

by Fernando Tue 21 May 2013, 3:13 pm

cherriesfna wrote:yeah ganso whos that dont remmener anything abouth him lDIDAHDIDAH

60m

by **Afro** Tue 21 May 2013, 3:14 pm

Hero wrote:
sodhat wrote:Ganso was a shocker at £60m

I remember a time when people were saying Falcao was nothing but a good Europa League goalscorer...

I remember those days too (cough Afro)
I also recall having Nick and Viva pouring scorn on me for daring to suggest Jordi Alba would become the no1 Spanish left back.

Your are comparing present day ability with old ratings. It was a bit like rating Ronaldo as the best player in the world, just when he had signed for United.

In those days Falcao was a good striker but nothing like he is now. Hero built him up to be the player he is today, long before he was the player he is today.

by sodhat Tue 21 May 2013, 3:14 pm

Hero wrote:
sodhat wrote:Ganso was a shocker at £60m

I remember a time when people were saying Falcao was nothing but a good Europa League goalscorer...

I remember those days too (cough Afro)
I also recall having Nick and Viva pouring scorn on me for daring to suggest Jordi Alba would become the no1 Spanish left back.

I seem to recall people suggesting Hulk was better than Falcao Laugh

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