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Post by Afro Wed May 15, 2013 11:34 pm

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Tactics due by 11.59 on Friday 24th May

PLEASE NOTE - this season you will receive a 1 point deduction if you do not submit tactics (as well as a default loss) and a 1 point deduction if you do not vote. If you know in advance you are unable to do either, then you must state so on the Holidays/Days Off page, to avoid the penalties.

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Post by GSC Thu May 23, 2013 8:00 pm

Hard to see Pep not wanting Kroos and Gotze together in his midfield.
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Post by sodhat Thu May 23, 2013 8:01 pm

If the first bidder can't afford it then I would say the second highest wins it

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Post by GSC Thu May 23, 2013 8:02 pm

That was my plan but I was shot down last time as I recall. I settled for a maximum bid of budget + lawyers value.
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Post by Afro Thu May 23, 2013 8:03 pm

I agree.

On your last point on the TP window, if someone cannot afford the players they have bid on, the money will be raised by selling players.

We will start at the highest valued player on TM website and work backwards until they have enough cash.

And the real sting, the player sales will be out of the league for TM value less 20% rounded down to the next £0.5m (i.e. a reverse lawyer)
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Post by sodhat Thu May 23, 2013 8:04 pm

Why would that get shot down?

In a tender process, if your best bidder pulls out you go to your second option, not re-start the whole thing

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Thu May 23, 2013 8:05 pm

Kroos is poor. Its all about Max Kruse

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Post by GSC Thu May 23, 2013 8:05 pm

Some wanted to be able to bid what they liked iirc.
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Post by Guest Thu May 23, 2013 8:15 pm

That Lukaku to West Ham link is utter nonsense. I'll tell you how it came about - the BBC had a story the other day on the transfer gossip page that said

"West Ham look to get Lukaku on loan again"

The Mirror then picked it up as 'Lukaku to West Ham', when the BBC made a typo and meant West BROM. West Ham don't have the interest, it's us.

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Post by sodhat Thu May 23, 2013 8:16 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:That Lukaku to West Ham link is utter nonsense. I'll tell you how it came about - the BBC had a story the other day on the transfer gossip page that said

"West Ham look to get Lukaku on loan again"

The Mirror then picked it up as 'Lukaku to West Ham', when the BBC made a typo and meant West BROM. West Ham don't have the interest, it's us.

Get in line, he wants to play with the Divine Ponytail.

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Post by Fernando Thu May 23, 2013 8:29 pm

sodhat wrote:
Fernando wrote:Im only up this early because im clock broke so i got up when it was light turned out was 7am Sad

I would have been straight back to sleep

Don't you have a mobile with a clock?

I don't have a mobile thumbsup

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Post by Afro Thu May 23, 2013 8:29 pm

The West Ham link is real and Sky Sports have reported it with direct quotes from Sullivan

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8727298/West-Ham-owner-David-Sullivan-eyes-Chelsea-s-Romelu-Lukaku

But I think we might see him at Swansea, offering him some European experience
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Post by sodhat Thu May 23, 2013 8:32 pm

Fernando wrote:
sodhat wrote:
Fernando wrote:Im only up this early because im clock broke so i got up when it was light turned out was 7am Sad

I would have been straight back to sleep

Don't you have a mobile with a clock?

I don't have a mobile thumbsup

Sheesh Nando, this isn't the 1800s.


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Post by Fernando Thu May 23, 2013 8:35 pm

sodhat wrote:
Fernando wrote:
sodhat wrote:
Fernando wrote:Im only up this early because im clock broke so i got up when it was light turned out was 7am Sad

I would have been straight back to sleep

Don't you have a mobile with a clock?

I don't have a mobile thumbsup

Sheesh Nando, this isn't the 1800s.


And to think im younger then you Whistle

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Post by Marky Thu May 23, 2013 8:45 pm

Kids these days...

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Post by Guest Thu May 23, 2013 9:02 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:The West Ham link is real and Sky Sports have reported it with direct quotes from Sullivan

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8727298/West-Ham-owner-David-Sullivan-eyes-Chelsea-s-Romelu-Lukaku

But I think we might see him at Swansea, offering him some European experience
And again, Chelsea have had no offers for Lukaku except from us, Sullivan is talking up West Ham's 'targets' to get the fans excited and his 'real' targets to sign under false promise. He's well-known for spouting off about signing players and not actually doing so, at Blues he did it almost weekly.

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Post by Afro Thu May 23, 2013 9:11 pm

No one is saying its a valid link or has any legs.

You said that the West Ham link was just from BBC putting West Ham instead of West Brom. I'm saying it's not, its from the club itself.
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Post by Marky Thu May 23, 2013 9:14 pm

So, one question. If GSC receives the TP bids, who receives GSC's bids and when? I just suspect he may be after a target of mine (although I could be wrong).

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Post by Afro Thu May 23, 2013 9:15 pm

I suggest that GSC does his first and sends them to me, similar to how we did the draft
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Post by GSC Thu May 23, 2013 9:34 pm

I won't look at bids until after the deadline passes anyway (I'll probably delete old bids once a fresh one is made), and any bids I make will be sent to Afro.
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Post by GSC Thu May 23, 2013 9:34 pm

Also I know who Markys target is now Euro Division Homepage LVIII - Page 16 3559488474

I'm probably not getting into bidding either way.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 23, 2013 10:28 pm

Lukaku won't go back to West Brom on loan.

He'll either go abroad or to La Swans
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Post by sodhat Thu May 23, 2013 10:28 pm

Or to West Ham

Keep up, Olly.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 23, 2013 10:30 pm

You've got Big Andy now, you don't need anymore machines up front.

Ratty boy as well
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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Thu May 23, 2013 11:21 pm

If you were Lukaku & you had a choice of Baggies, West Ham or Swansea where would you pick?
If Laudrup is still there, Swansea all day

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Post by sodhat Thu May 23, 2013 11:23 pm

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:If you were Lukaku & you had a choice of Baggies, West Ham or Swansea where would you pick?
If Laudrup is still there, Swansea all day

You'd rather live in South Wales than London?

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Thu May 23, 2013 11:25 pm

sodhat wrote:
Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:If you were Lukaku & you had a choice of Baggies, West Ham or Swansea where would you pick?
If Laudrup is still there, Swansea all day

You'd rather live in South Wales than London?
Fair point but Id rather play for a better team & manager. South Wales is good enough for Michu lol

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Post by sodhat Thu May 23, 2013 11:26 pm

Phh, better team that finished above us on goal difference?

They'll struggle with the Europa next year too. He should stick around in London and play for West Ham.

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Thu May 23, 2013 11:30 pm

Europa football though. Id much rather play under Laudrup's management & have European football where good performances will be picked up on by more clubs thus improving my profile than go to West Ham where my profile will be limited to these shores only, based on good performances. Only way to get noticed in Europe at West ham would be to have exceptionally great performances.

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Post by Afro Thu May 23, 2013 11:58 pm

I'm not sure Lukaku will get much choice in it.

Chelsea will send him somewhere where he can get some additional experience he hasn't previously had. For me that is starting regularly in European competitions.
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Post by Afro Fri May 24, 2013 12:26 am

http://myevertonnews.com/no-everton-approach-for-bournemouth-afcs-eddie-howe/

LaughLaugh

I can't remember seeing any rumours linking him at all.

Move on Kenwright. Why would we want some no body who got given a small fortune to spend and still only just managed to get promotion.
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Post by GSC Fri May 24, 2013 12:38 am

Howe can't handle the pressure of midtable Championship, how's he going to deal with expectations of a top half PL finish
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Post by Afro Fri May 24, 2013 12:43 am

GSC wrote:Howe can't handle the pressure of midtable Championship, how's he going to deal with expectations of a top half PL finish

Well give him a chance next season and he will be able to acclimatise to mid-table Championship if he is lucky
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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Fri May 24, 2013 1:29 am

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra Fri May 24, 2013 1:47 am

This girl at work on the marketing team wrote her car off last week, thursday.
Next week is her birthday so the bday card is passed around the office. Do you think mine & my teams bday wishes are a bit to early?? Out of order?? All have Happy Birthday at the start:
Mine: Hope you have a great day without any birthday "bumps"
Team member 1: Have a smashing day!
Team member 2: Enjoy your night out, hope your not a write off the following day.


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Post by nadeem2099 Fri May 24, 2013 1:53 am

She''ll sue you for sexual harassment zebs. Don't do it if you value your job.
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Post by sodhat Fri May 24, 2013 1:57 am

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:This girl at work on the marketing team wrote her car off last week, thursday.
Next week is her birthday so the bday card is passed around the office. Do you think mine & my teams bday wishes are a bit to early?? Out of order?? All have Happy Birthday at the start:
Mine: Hope you have a great day without any birthday "bumps"
Team member 1: Have a smashing day!
Team member 2: Enjoy your night out, hope your not a write off the following day.


They're good, but have one of your team say:

"Happy birthday! Don't crash your f*cking car."

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Post by Afro Fri May 24, 2013 2:02 am

Anyone interested in Mascherano?
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Post by GSC Fri May 24, 2013 2:02 am

I would, but I have no monies atm
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Post by Marky Fri May 24, 2013 2:08 am

BigFellasAfro wrote:Anyone interested in Mascherano?

I would be, but only if I don't get one of my TP targets.

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Post by Afro Fri May 24, 2013 2:15 am

I'm toying putting him into end of season lawyers to fund a move for a secret TP target Whistle
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Post by GSC Fri May 24, 2013 3:03 am

Resent Tactics

Good luck Trebs + Russ OK
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Post by Marky Fri May 24, 2013 5:16 am

BigFellasAfro wrote:I'm toying putting him into end of season lawyers to fund a move for a secret TP target Whistle

Top secret I hope.

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Post by Afro Fri May 24, 2013 5:33 am

Not really.

Couldn't make my mind up who to lawyer but have decided that it is worth keeping him to cover CB. My plan changes by the hour!
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Post by Trebs Fri May 24, 2013 5:37 am

Would anyone else agree with making the two £26.5m TPs separate from the usual TPs? Could cause issues people not knowing whether or not they can sign players without going over the limit if they don't know if they've won a bidding war.

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Post by Marky Fri May 24, 2013 5:38 am

It's odd doing two sets of tactics at once, have the same system for both games but different tactics Laugh

Proper crunch time, relegation battle and cup final in the same week. I'm Wigan Shocked

Even prize money, I could get £10m and £5m if I stay up but lose the cup final, or £20m and £10m if I go down and win the cup! £15m difference based on two games!

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Post by Marky Fri May 24, 2013 5:40 am

onlytreblewinners wrote:Would anyone else agree with making the two £26.5m TPs separate from the usual TPs? Could cause issues people not knowing whether or not they can sign players without going over the limit if they don't know if they've won a bidding war.

Pretty sure no-one has a game that week as the season will be over.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri May 24, 2013 5:42 am

Is our game a relegation battle Marky?!?!
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Post by GSC Fri May 24, 2013 5:42 am

Yeah you have a week post auction before games
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Post by GSC Fri May 24, 2013 5:43 am

Olly wrote:Is our game a relegation battle Marky?!?!

Yeah if you win Marky goes down instead of you
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Post by Marky Fri May 24, 2013 5:43 am

Olly wrote:Is our game a relegation battle Marky?!?!

Well, yeah. I thought you knew Laugh

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