Haye vs Fury at the end of the year

What do you guys think?

http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/sport/story/207514.html

Says they are currently in talks. The injury that halted the Charr fight seems a bit suspect now. Haye could earn triple (or more) fighting the big unco-ordinated oaf.

Is the injury a ploy to begin preparations for a Fury fight or will Fury duck Haye like he did Price?

Hopefully it happens, Haye previously dismissed a fight with Fury but now seems up for it.

If I was handling fury I'd keep him well away from haye. Could be the usual bluster of 'we'll fight anyone' whilst pricing themselves out of it... though they may think its better to take a handsomely rewarded risk. Whichever, credit to the fury's if it does materialise... Though I suspect it would be a bubble bursting evening for them.

You can see the conversation: -

"Hey David, you know you're fighting Charr at the end of the month for a truck load of money?"

"Yeah?"

"Well, you could make a truck load and shed load of money by fightng Fury"

"Great. That big lummox will be a much easier night than Charr."

"Of course, if you loose to Charr, then you won't get that that fight with Fury and you can say good bye to all that dosh"

"Ouch, my hand hurts"

But what if he was to adopt his pushing forearm against Hayes head before crackin him one. Fury's dirty tactics could be a major factor against Haye.

Lets hope the ref (if it happens) has none of it.

bhb001 wrote:You can see the conversation: -

"Hey David, you know you're fighting Charr at the end of the month for a truck load of money?"

"Yeah?"

"Well, you could make a truck load and shed load of money by fightng Fury"

"Great. That big lummox will be a much easier night than Charr."

"Of course, if you loose to Charr, then you won't get that that fight with Fury and you can say good bye to all that dosh"

"Ouch, my hand hurts"

Sort of like the conversation he had a few years ago:

"Right lets get ready for Wlad"

"David, Setanta just went bust"

"Ouch my back!!!!"

Or Hennessy's conversation with Fury:

"Price is mandatory for your British title"

"WHAT!?!?!"

"Can you not win the purse bid?"

"No, I stopped off at Burger King on the way home, funds took a bit of a pasting"

"No way, get this belt back to the BBBoC AND GET MARTIN ROGAN ON THE PHONE!!!"

I can't imagine that the injury was a ploy UNLESS they have signed something together already.

Considering Fury's tendancy to duck I don't think Haye would risk loosing money.

Oh you cynical bunch you!!

As milky said, if I was Fury's managment I wouldn't want him anywhere near Haye.

As long as Haye's delicate little toe held up I could see him bashing Fury from pillar to post.

I can see the grounds for suspicion, but its charr he was fighting not Ali. I don't imagine haye was expecting to break sweat, never mind his hand

I would cash inFry, he's an accident waiting to happen and a Haye fight will probabaly get him the same amount a Wlad fight would

No chance though as Fury won't want it, he has dodged dangerous challenges before and his bluff has been called many times now

I wouldnt be surprised. I think the fight makes sense. Much more so than Haye v Charr plus Fury v Pulev.

Fury would probably lose this, but its better to lose a cash rich fight with Haye then for a lower purse bid fight with someone like Pulev. For Haye its another lucrative opponent that he can beat and move up the ladder.

Both guys are ranked top ten with the WBC I think so the fight could easily be made an eliminator. Vitali has Stiverne next I think or possible retirement so it uts both Haye and Fury closer to the title, gets them a nice payday and most likely a shot at either an old Vitali or a vacant title.

Fury is at the stage now where he is enough of an accident that he may aswell cash in on a big fight rather than risk lose to a small name for small money. And even if he did lose to Haye, it doesnt set him back all that much. He would be expected to lose and the publicity generated from the build up would ensure its worth the publicity.

It's a must. A massive fight for the UK. I'm looking forward to the build up especially. Hopefully china price gets onto his feet again so he can join in the fun. I'll sponsor the sole of his shoes.

Lets just hope Fury fights someone with a pulse.

He cant afford to get knocked all over the show by a half dead cruiser again.

Pulev or Haye are must fights at this point.

I notice Pulev is now the latest fighter to have gained himself something of a bandwagon following...hmmmm!!!!!

Haye has gained a bandwagon following too.

Maybe the fans should go back to his fight with Wlad and remember how limited he is and how he bolted like a little girl for 12 rounds.

His appearence on I'm a Celebrity and beating Chisora (who everybody seems to beat) seem to have re-surfaced some peoples love for him again.

Yawn. Ran like a little girl. Bottled it. Figjt someone with a pulse.

azania wrote:Yawn. Ran like a little girl. Bottled it. Figjt someone with a pulse.

Az criticising someone for repeating themselves on here. Is this the day the bloody and battered corpse of irony was finally confirmed as dead on here.

Rowley wrote:

azania wrote:Yawn. Ran like a little girl. Bottled it. Figjt someone with a pulse.

Az criticising someone for repeating themselves on here. Is this the day the bloody and battered corpse of irony was finally confirmed as dead on here.

... And on a thread, where he's managed to make reference to price being chinny.

I fear our good friend irony passed away many moons ago Jeffrey. He's stuck in purgatory listening to az and ghosty calling each other stubborn while debating the merits of Marciano.

milkyboy wrote:

I fear our good friend irony passed away many moons ago Jeffrey. He's stuck in purgatory listening to az and ghosty calling each other stubborn while debating the merits of Marciano.

It could be worse Milky, his friend common sense is stuck in the adjacent room listening to Gordy telling him how Calzaghe would beat Wlad.

haha!

And his big brother enlightenment has to endure a video of waingro revealing that wlad is vitali's brother, on permanent loop

Still my favourite ever comment ever Milky. One you had to read a few times to try and check if it was you misreading it.

Hay eversus Fury would be great. HAye KO, naturally, but a great build up and genuine press interest. Fatty Hennessey should recognise he can make serious coin in this one and go for it. Fury will end up coming unstuck against a Tony Thompson type figther if Hennessey waits too long. Then there is no money in a Haye fight

i think the gerneral consensus is correct in that if you are going to get knocked out, which Fury is one step up in class from being if Cunningham was anything to go by, then you may as well make the most money doing it.

The only danger may be if he genuinely wants a K bro which a pasting in this fight would probably scotch.

But Haye would bring more money to the table than a K-Bro for Fury at the moment in this country and the US

If Haye genuinely had a hand injury that would take "weeks" (Haye's words not mine) to recover, the Charr fight would have been postponed rather than cancelled. Makes me think he wanted to cancel it, which would add to the idea of Haye v Fury happening.

Marky wrote:If Haye genuinely had a hand injury that would take "weeks" (Haye's words not mine) to recover, the Charr fight would have been postponed rather than cancelled. Makes me think he wanted to cancel it, which would add to the idea of Haye v Fury happening.

True. I think Haye realised nobody was interested in seeing him fight that Charr guy and he could make alot more money fighting Fury. Its a much more interesting fight. I dont think the hand injury is legitimate. I hope this happens now. Fury will be too big for Haye but he takes more chances than Wladimir Klitschko so Haye will have a better chance. I think it will be very similar to Furys last fight if it goes ahead. At least Haye seems willing to fight Fury which is good news.

winchester wrote: I think it will be very similar to Furys last fight if it goes ahead. At least Haye seems willing to fight Fury which is good news.

I can also see Fury getting put on his arse within two rounds

Rowley wrote:

winchester wrote: I think it will be very similar to Furys last fight if it goes ahead. At least Haye seems willing to fight Fury which is good news.

I can also see Fury getting put on his arse within two rounds

And climbing back up to win. Thats what makes it exciting.

These are the fights the heavyweight division needs. Lets the new breed come through and clear out the old guard. I mean who wants to see the these ancient Klitschko brothers going over old ground with Haye or Charr and the like? It wasnt good the first time so why do it again. And the fact it makes people think they are great rather than pure average just adds insult to injury. Fury, Price, Wilder and hopefully a few more can bring new life. They are big, young, exciting heavyweights. Not ancient boring ones.

winchester wrote: Fury, Price, Wilder and hopefully a few more can bring new life. They are big, young, exciting heavyweights. Not ancient boring ones.

Was it not for the fact that to a man they are absolute bobbins I would share your enthusiasm.

winchester wrote:

Rowley wrote:

winchester wrote: I think it will be very similar to Furys last fight if it goes ahead. At least Haye seems willing to fight Fury which is good news.

I can also see Fury getting put on his arse within two rounds

And climbing back up to win. Thats what makes it exciting.

These are the fights the heavyweight division needs. Lets the new breed come through and clear out the old guard. I mean who wants to see the these ancient Klitschko brothers going over old ground with Haye or Charr and the like? It wasnt good the first time so why do it again. And the fact it makes people think they are great rather than pure average just adds insult to injury. Fury, Price, Wilder and hopefully a few more can bring new life. They are big, young, exciting heavyweights. Not ancient boring ones.

Yea because Fury is a real slickster

Remember when I was a kid Reborn, Bruno was often seen as a figure of ridicule. Dear god if he hit Fury anywhere above the kneecaps he would knock him into next week. Compared to these guys Big Frank looks like a heavyweight version of Benny Leonard.

If Fury is the new breed, then it is in bred!

Rowley wrote:Remember when I was a kid Reborn, Bruno was often seen as a figure of ridicule. Dear god if he hit Fury anywhere above the kneecaps he would knock him into next week. Compared to these guys Big Frank looks like a heavyweight version of Benny Leonard.

What happened to Fury's purse bids with Pulev for mandatory position?

And why couldn't Haye fight Charr now(ish) and still Fury by year end?

Hmmmmmm......

winchester has got to be Waingro or Gordy, surely???!!

Possibly Hennessy didnt like the idea of a Pulev fight going to purse bids and gave Haye a call instead.

Haye probably wouldnt want to risk losing out on a Fury fight. I think theres a strong chance the injury is bogus and they will look to make Fury v Haye later in the year.

This fight won't happen unless Fury's camp are stupid, Fury would come out al aggressive and walk straight into Hayes right hand and its goodnight

Nowt against Fury just don't rate him, put him in the Neville Meade, Noel Quarless, Dave Pierce league of fighters.

The purse bid is the end of May I believe. After that everything will be a bit clearer I imagine. I make Fury a massive underdog against Haye and Pulev really so I'd be surprised if he went for the low cash option in Pulev rather than the big money fight against Haye when his chances of winning are probably about the same.

I know if I was in charge of Fury at the moment I would take the Haye fight.

From what I have seen/heard about Fury, hes not the most committed guy to boxing. I doubt he going to be able to maintain the discipline associated with longetivity. He might for a few years but I suspect he will become bored/distracted/unmotivated and lapse into poor conditioning after a while. So even going down the road of feeding hand picked fights might not work before long and his profile and mouth are too big to get away doing that for too long without attracting ridicule and damaging his status.

Although he isnt particularly rated highly as a boxer his profile is high right now so he may as well cash in rather than risk someone like Pulev (or worse) stopping him. Even if he loses to Haye, his profile will be even bigger given the coverage it attracts, he will be well paid and because of his profile a loss wouldnt even set his career back.

And if he gets lucky he gets another major payday with wlad the impaler.

Rowley wrote:Still my favourite ever comment ever Milky. One you had to read a few times to try and check if it was you misreading it.

To be fair though, Jeff, Calzaghe did himself say that he could have beaten Wlad. So it is true.

TopHat24/7 wrote:winchester has got to be Waingro or Gordy, surely???!!

Definitely not Gordy, TH. He hated Fury; the fraudulent Sky hype job..

In all seriousness though, Fury can't seem to avoid overhand rights. McDermott nailed him consistently with that punch in their first encounter, and Cunningham dropped him with a similar shot (if memory serves).

Haye would demolish him.

And waingro bummed haye almost as much as dave. They must have reproduced to produce winchester. Gordy and Waingro that is Not poor dave.

Rowley wrote:

azania wrote:Yawn. Ran like a little girl. Bottled it. Figjt someone with a pulse.

Az criticising someone for repeating themselves on here. Is this the day the bloody and battered corpse of irony was finally confirmed as dead on here.

I just got owned.

There should be a limit on the level of verbal violence displayed by moderators on here.

SO Haye fights Fury and knocks him out which will happen. This means Fury is carp. The fickle nature of boxing fans in unreal.

azania wrote:SO Haye fights Fury and knocks him out which will happen. This means Fury is carp. The fickle nature of boxing fans in unreal.

I thought he was a pilchard

bhb001 wrote:

azania wrote:SO Haye fights Fury and knocks him out which will happen. This means Fury is carp. The fickle nature of boxing fans in unreal.

I thought he was a pilchard

Judging by his singing, he'd probably need a tuna.

ShahenshahG wrote:

bhb001 wrote:

azania wrote:SO Haye fights Fury and knocks him out which will happen. This means Fury is carp. The fickle nature of boxing fans in unreal.

I thought he was a pilchard

Judging by his singing, he'd probably need a tuna.

Definitely a clown