The v2 Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

+6
Samo
theanimal316
Chuck Norris
Kay Fabe
User Name
legendkillar
10 posters

Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by legendkillar Fri 06 May 2011, 2:28 pm

The one thing that is putting me off wrestling is the lack of gimmicks and good ones at that.

There have been some amazing turn around in some superstars careers down to gimmick changes and some pretty awful ones too. For example

Ringmaster to Stone Cold Steve Austin

HHH going from Blue Blood to The Game

Rocky Mavia to The Rock

Hulk Hogan to Hollywood Hogan

APA Bradshaw to JBL

Randy Orton - Legend Killer

Isaac Yankem to Kane

Edge becoming Rated R Superstar

The Rocket Owen Hart to the King of Harts

Dare I say it even Sid Justice to Pyscho Sid

Some poor ones

Undertaker becoming American Badass

Johnny Nitro - John Morrison

Papa Shango to Kama to Godfather to Goodfather

Mr Ass to the One Billy Gunn

Rapper John Cena to John Cena the bellend

There are just so many

I think the wrestling gimmick is what is letting down the WWE and even TNA. I think the WWE's refusal to re-define the gimmick for some superstars as it can make difference and even enhance merchandise that they crave. Superstars such as Sheamus, Kofi, Ted Dibiase are going nowhere and need some form of gimmick to help them develop as wrestlers and move up the mid card. I think the WWE and TNA need to work their gimmicks because so many talented wrestlers fall of the radar completely because they have rubbish gimmicks. It is becoming a dying art and I think it is killing wrestling slowly.


legendkillar

Posts : 5253
Join date : 2011-04-17
Location : Brighton

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by User Name Fri 06 May 2011, 5:16 pm

What i think strange is nobody has mental names anymore either
there all just semi normal names

User Name

Posts : 747
Join date : 2011-02-06

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Kay Fabe Fri 06 May 2011, 5:20 pm

Bring back the early 90s when every Wrestler had a day job

Kay Fabe

Posts : 9685
Join date : 2011-03-16
Age : 42
Location : Glasgow

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Chuck Norris Fri 06 May 2011, 5:21 pm

Spirit Squad Member to Dolph Ziggler

Seriously back when they were the spirit squad who would have bet on one of them becoming a world champion Shocked

Chuck Norris

Posts : 196
Join date : 2011-02-18
Age : 31

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Kay Fabe Fri 06 May 2011, 5:24 pm

Where not calling him an ex champ are we? He never even touched the belt

Kay Fabe

Posts : 9685
Join date : 2011-03-16
Age : 42
Location : Glasgow

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Chuck Norris Fri 06 May 2011, 5:25 pm

Yes he did, he had the belt around his wasit, he was world champion. Therefore he is a world champion.

Did you call Kane a world champ back when he won it before 2010?

Chuck Norris

Posts : 196
Join date : 2011-02-18
Age : 31

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by theanimal316 Fri 06 May 2011, 5:34 pm

I think a balance needs to be struck somewhere between the 80s/early 90s when every possible job a person could do was represented in the wrestling business (garbage collector, hockey player, snake man, tax collector, amry general etc) and
the way it is currently with 8/10 wrestlers looking like a generic wrestler from Smackdown vs Raw. Most gimmicks now seem to be an extension of their real personality, which I think probably started with Bret Hart (can anyone think of others who were basically themselves before Bret?) But even wrestlers without obvious gimmicks in the 90s had different movesets and ring attire etc whereas it is very hard to differentiate between a lot of wrestlers today.

theanimal316

Posts : 471
Join date : 2011-01-28
Age : 38
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Samo Fri 06 May 2011, 5:43 pm

Dont think I agree with the Undertaker or JoMo ones.

American Badass was a great gimmick, and Undertaker carried it well.

And JoMo's gimmick never changed, just his name, he was still a smarmy pretty boy.

Samo

Posts : 5796
Join date : 2011-01-29

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by legendkillar Fri 06 May 2011, 5:43 pm

Good point animal. Bret though technically on the mat was in a league of his own and plus the catchphrase 'The best there is, was, ever will be' and 'The Excellence of Execution' and I think Vince was stupid to think that he couldn't cut it in the attitude era because Austin brought the best out of him on the mic and Bret brought the best out of Austin on the mat. I just don't think any of the roster have that anymore. Have anything that really defines them. There also needs to be representation of the working guy and it needs a big change because it is just dreadful to watch talented wrestlers just not given the right gimmick to go that step further.

legendkillar

Posts : 5253
Join date : 2011-04-17
Location : Brighton

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by legendkillar Fri 06 May 2011, 5:46 pm

The Undertaker as the badass was gash. He carried it to the point that everyone could see that he wasn't suited to it at all. I didn't buy it and I was amazed it lasted because he didn't need a gimmick change.

Jomo didn't come to the ring making out he had number 1 albums. Didn't need to change his name or gimmick.

legendkillar

Posts : 5253
Join date : 2011-04-17
Location : Brighton

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Sarsippius Fri 06 May 2011, 5:53 pm

I thought the Bad Ass gimmick gave Taker a chance to be more rounded as a character and on the mic and he could basically be himself

It was a move to show WWF moving away from gimmicks and Taker was a symbol of that and given how pleased I was at WM20 when the deadman returned I now think a new gimmick change would have been good if he didn't have so little time left in his career

Sarsippius

Posts : 130
Join date : 2011-01-27
Age : 34
Location : Manchester

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Quiz

Post by Kay Fabe Fri 06 May 2011, 6:02 pm

Chuck Norris wrote:Yes he did, he had the belt around his wasit, he was world champion. Therefore he is a world champion.

Did you call Kane a world champ back when he won it before 2010?
did I call Kane a champ? Yes he beat Austin fnr the WWF Title in the Main Event of a major PPV

I cant recall Ziggles touching the belt

Kay Fabe

Posts : 9685
Join date : 2011-03-16
Age : 42
Location : Glasgow

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Chuck Norris Fri 06 May 2011, 6:25 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UZ1eMxxpZk

Chuck Norris

Posts : 196
Join date : 2011-02-18
Age : 31

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Kay Fabe Fri 06 May 2011, 6:30 pm

Sound, I still dont consider him a champ tho much in the same way i dont consider Andre a champ

Kay Fabe

Posts : 9685
Join date : 2011-03-16
Age : 42
Location : Glasgow

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Kaiser Fri 06 May 2011, 7:07 pm

He's recognised as a world heavyweight champ and also the 22nd triple crown champ

Kaiser

Posts : 235
Join date : 2011-01-27
Location : Wales

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Kay Fabe Fri 06 May 2011, 8:47 pm

I know hes recognised, so is Andre i just cant consider them ex champs

Kay Fabe

Posts : 9685
Join date : 2011-03-16
Age : 42
Location : Glasgow

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Enforcer Fri 06 May 2011, 9:59 pm

I didn't think Andre was recognised, the story was Jack Tunney wiped it from the record books I thought?

Enforcer
Founder
Founder

Posts : 3598
Join date : 2011-01-25
Age : 39
Location : Cardiff

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Kay Fabe Fri 06 May 2011, 10:17 pm

Na Andre is officially recognised, im not sure if they only did this after he died tho'

Kay Fabe

Posts : 9685
Join date : 2011-03-16
Age : 42
Location : Glasgow

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Enforcer Fri 06 May 2011, 10:20 pm

Cool, learnt something new today!

Enforcer
Founder
Founder

Posts : 3598
Join date : 2011-01-25
Age : 39
Location : Cardiff

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Brady12 Fri 06 May 2011, 11:09 pm

I don't understand why Andre was recognised but Dibase wasn't?

Brady12

Posts : 1623
Join date : 2011-01-28

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Kay Fabe Sat 07 May 2011, 11:51 am

Because DiBiase didn't win it, Tunney stepped in when Andre forfitted the title, if DiBiase wanted to be champ he was going to have to win it

Kay Fabe

Posts : 9685
Join date : 2011-03-16
Age : 42
Location : Glasgow

Back to top Go down

The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art.... Empty Re: The Wrestling Gimmick - A Dying Art....

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum