Little man XV

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15. Jason Robinson
14. Vincent Clerk
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11. Shane Williams
10. Arwel Thomas
9. Peter stringer

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7. Steffon Armitage
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2. Brian Moore
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Loosehead should be Ian "Mighty Mouse" McLauchlan. Neil Back is a smaller choice at open side flanker.

Lee Mears at hooker?

Chunk at prop?

Andrew Coombs at lock?

Tom Youngs - Hooker
Tom Smith - Prop
Malou ? - Theres a french winger whos about 5'4..played for france
Peter Stringer
James Small - SA winger
Neil back - Flanker

GeordieFalcon wrote:Tom Youngs - Hooker
Tom Smith - Prop
Malou ? - Theres a french winger whos about 5'4..played for france
Peter Stringer
James Small - SA winger
Neil back - Flanker

The French winger you're thinking of is Marc Andreu. Depends how far back you go but David Johnstone the 1984 Scotland Grand Slam centre was not a big guy.

1) Thomas Domingo 5ft 8 (France)
2) Gareth Williams 5ft 8 (Wales)
3) Chris Budgeon 5ft 8 (Northampton saints, Exeter Chiefs)
4) Jordan Crane 6ft 3 (lock for saxons)
5) Sebastian Chabal 6ft 3 ( France)
6) Phil Waugh 5ft 9 (Australia)
7) Steffan Armitage 5ft 9 (England)
8) Kabamba Floors 5ft 9 (South Africa)
9) Heini Adams 5ft 5 ( Bulls, Bordeaux, springboks squad)
10) E va’a 5ft 5.5 ( Samoa)
11) Grant Batty 5ft 5 (All Blacks)
12) Ryan Davies 5ft 7 (Exeter chiefs /England u21 captain)
13) Sam Tuitupou 5ft 8 (All blacks)
14) Marc Andreu 5ft 5 (France)
15) Jason Robinson 5ft 8 (England/lions)

Its not the size of the boat but the motion of the ocean thats the important thing !!!

Sorry but Peter Stringer is a giant compared to Russia's Alexander Yanyushkin who stands at a mere 5ft 5 compared to Stringers lofty 5ft 7.

Has to be Andreu on the wing rather than Clerc (5'10" really isn't that short).

Kyle Eastmond at 5'6" is a good centre option.

Brent Russel, Gio Aplon, both at wing or fullback.

sirtidychris wrote:1) Thomas Domingo 5ft 8 (France)
2) Gareth Williams 5ft 8 (Wales)
3) Chris Budgeon 5ft 8 (Northampton saints, Exeter Chiefs)
4) Jordan Crane 6ft 3 (lock for saxons)
5) Sebastian Chabal 6ft 3 ( France)
6) Phil Waugh 5ft 9 (Australia)
7) Steffan Armitage 5ft 9 (England)
8) Kabamba Floors 5ft 9 (South Africa)
9) Heini Adams 5ft 5 ( Bulls, Bordeaux, springboks squad)
10) E va’a 5ft 5.5 ( Samoa)
11) Grant Batty 5ft 5 (All Blacks)
12) Ryan Davies 5ft 7 (Exeter chiefs /England u21 captain)
13) Sam Tuitupou 5ft 8 (All blacks)
14) Marc Andreu 5ft 5 (France)
15) Jason Robinson 5ft 8 (England/lions)

Its not the size of the boat but the motion of the ocean thats the important thing !!!

Great effort.

Surprised Delon Armitage hasn't been mentioned, he is a very little man.

George Carlin wrote:

sirtidychris wrote:1) Thomas Domingo 5ft 8 (France)
2) Gareth Williams 5ft 8 (Wales)
3) Chris Budgeon 5ft 8 (Northampton saints, Exeter Chiefs)
4) Jordan Crane 6ft 3 (lock for saxons)
5) Sebastian Chabal 6ft 3 ( France)
6) Phil Waugh 5ft 9 (Australia)
7) Steffan Armitage 5ft 9 (England)
8) Kabamba Floors 5ft 9 (South Africa)
9) Heini Adams 5ft 5 ( Bulls, Bordeaux, springboks squad)
10) E va’a 5ft 5.5 ( Samoa)
11) Grant Batty 5ft 5 (All Blacks)
12) Ryan Davies 5ft 7 (Exeter chiefs /England u21 captain)
13) Sam Tuitupou 5ft 8 (All blacks)
14) Marc Andreu 5ft 5 (France)
15) Jason Robinson 5ft 8 (England/lions)

Its not the size of the boat but the motion of the ocean thats the important thing !!!

Great effort.

They will struggle a tad in the line outs.

jelly wrote:Surprised Delon Armitage hasn't been mentioned, he is a very little man.

Good shout

Craig Joiner on the wing

Was about 3 inchs and 2 grams

Also could have a utility position for Patterson as he was as skinny as a rake

GLove39 wrote:Sorry but Peter Stringer is a giant compared to Russia's Alexander Yanyushkin who stands at a mere 5ft 5 compared to Stringers lofty 5ft 7.

and he's a centre!

Wade, Eastmond, Ford might all be good modern day shouts

Any modern day proper test locks under 6'5? I can't think of any bar Derek Redman who was 6'4 and toured for the lions in 97. Chabal was never really a lock.

SA surprisingly have a number of short test players i.e. Aplon, De Jongh, Jantjies, Lambie, Hougaard, Ralepelle (all 5'10 or shorter) with Brussow also at 5'11.

The new wonder kid Sergeal Peterson is only 5'7 too... IAAF official track time of 10.5 though (will probably slow down as he bulks up to 11st+!!!)

1. Domingo 2. Mealamu 3. Mas
4. Brad Thorn 5. Reuben Thorne (Captain Invisible)
6. Jerry Collins (He had little hands ) 7. Neil Back 8. Stan 'Tiny? Hill
9. Sid Going 10. Grant Fox
11. Yamaha 14. Shane Williams 15 Aplon

Austin Healy as utility reserve and general team tackle bag.

kia where are your centres?

Walter little was <6ft no?

They're so little you can't see them. Walter Little is a good shout in a Little XV. JOC at 12 though and 13 Castaignède.

O'Driscoll is only 5'9.

Breyton Paulse played wing and 15 for SA
James Dalton at 2

I think a lot of players are smaller in real life too than the official stats, when my friend got his first sarries run out he apparently put on 2 inches in height and a stone in weight! I've also met Shane Williams a few times and he's about 5ft 6 I reckon!

I meet Christian Cullen and Frank Bunce before the world cup and they were only marginally taller than me (short chinese fellah) so 5'8 for them at best.

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:

GLove39 wrote:Sorry but Peter Stringer is a giant compared to Russia's Alexander Yanyushkin who stands at a mere 5ft 5 compared to Stringers lofty 5ft 7.

and he's a centre!

Really? The ever reliable wiki has him down as a scrum half and sometimes fly half

I saw Mike Cusack once.

21 stone looks a little on the conservative side, I thought.

GLove39 wrote:

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:

GLove39 wrote:Sorry but Peter Stringer is a giant compared to Russia's Alexander Yanyushkin who stands at a mere 5ft 5 compared to Stringers lofty 5ft 7.

and he's a centre!

Really? The ever reliable wiki has him down as a scrum half and sometimes fly half

Ha, I feel like a right donut.

I read this caption in the Telegraph online.

Russia's pint-of-vodka-sized Alexander Yanyushkin (centre) is the tournament's smallest player, standing at a measly 5ft 5in

As I scanned it I thought it meant he was a centre, not in the centre of the picture.

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:

GLove39 wrote:

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:

GLove39 wrote:Sorry but Peter Stringer is a giant compared to Russia's Alexander Yanyushkin who stands at a mere 5ft 5 compared to Stringers lofty 5ft 7.

and he's a centre!

Really? The ever reliable wiki has him down as a scrum half and sometimes fly half

Ha, I feel like a right donut.

I read this caption in the Telegraph online.

Russia's pint-of-vodka-sized Alexander Yanyushkin (centre) is the tournament's smallest player, standing at a measly 5ft 5in

As I scanned it I thought it meant he was a centre, not in the centre of the picture.

Cristian Wade looks tiny.
Diego Dominguez - Italy 10
Troncon was diminutive.
Dan Hipkiss always looks short - solid, but short.

Romain Teulet, the Castres fullback is only 5ft 5ins and is a great goal kicker.

Chester Williams always looked really small on Jonah Lomu rugby on the PS1. That count?

Had some gas though.

Anyone looks small compared to Jonah Lomu. Including the guy who played him in Invictus.

I met him once during the NZ European 97 tour... was expecting a giant but he didn't really stand out amongst his fellow players. He wasn't that much bigger than standard rugby players, pro and amateur.

I guess we had built up an image of him in our minds and were disappointed he wasn't twice the size of everyone else.

The same day I also saw Zinzan practising some drop goals.... half his attempts skidded the grass and didn't get off the ground (every dog has his day I guess).... although the legend he is had quite a few days go his way. Still the daddy mind (although his brother was one mean player... who got the last spud in the Brooke family sunday get togethers???)

fa0019 wrote:I met him once during the NZ European 97 tour... was expecting a giant but he didn't really stand out amongst his fellow players. He wasn't that much bigger than standard rugby players, pro and amateur.

I guess we had built up an image of him in our minds and were disappointed he wasn't twice the size of everyone else.

The same day I also saw Zinzan practising some drop goals.... half his attempts skidded the grass and didn't get off the ground (every dog has his day I guess).... although the legend he is had quite a few days go his way. Still the daddy mind (although his brother was one mean player... who got the last spud in the Brooke family sunday get togethers???)

Robin Brooke was nasty full stop.

In '96 I got a student job working ground security for rugby and cricket matches at Lancaster Park. My 1st day was the ABs/Springboks test , and I was lucky enough post-match to be rostered onto the door of the after-match function room. That involved watching people coming in, making sure they all had the right passes round their necks. All well and good - pass, pass, pass, ... pass, pass, errno pas- Oh, sorry Jonah, your pass is up there.

One candidate for the tiny squad would be Yoshihiro "Demi" Sakata, a Japanese winger from the 1960s. I can't track down an official height but he looks very short in photos. Said to be a real flyer, Sakata decided to develop his game by moving to New Zealand. In 1969, he was named one of the top 5 players in the world, and was an outside shot to tour with the All Blacks. He's in the IRB Hall of Fame.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWd7u9GZYm8

Those are two good tries he scored.