Do Americans Consider Cheating Part Of Winning? Ward & B-Hop Prime Examples

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We have two greats of the modern era: B-Hop and Andre Ward. Two gifted athletes who openly head butt and elbow boxers in the face to create cuts that they can exploit. See any B-Hop fight, and in particular, Ward vs Kessler & Ward vs Dawson. Awful butts in both fights, plus elbows.

Also, consider the PED issues that have plagued American boxing. So many 'elite' fighters being found out. It seems that having the 'edge' is key in America, and winning at any cost is accepted.

Of course other nations have there issues, but those issues rarely come with such praise.

Thoughts on the elite of American boxers being found to be cheats? We even have a drug abuser in Mayweather's camp now in the shape of Love, worrying.

Americans consider winning as part of winning. Not cheating. Cheats are frowned upon. As in any country.

Xenophobic bull semen, this article. As stated before.

JabMachineMK2 wrote:Americans consider winning as part of winning. Not cheating. Cheats are frowned upon. As in any country.

Xenophobic bull semen, this article. As stated before.

Frowned upon? Barry Bonds is still a legend (albeit at least they refused him HOF at first draw), LP still has/had his title and record (until Lucas), Armstrong is still a massive commercial success - doesn't sound like very strong frowning to me!

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:America is where all the money is...............

Not to say the generalisation that America consider cheating part of winning is true..

Let's say every muslim is a terrorist.

There he is.

Why don't you just f**k off..

You don't add anything..

TRUSSY, will you go out with me?

I'd say so TopHat, I think its just the way we view that they don't publicly lynch their drug cheats.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/articles/the-truth-about-drugs-in-football-feature

Here is a story on English football doesn't look good

seanmichaels wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

How about the East German athletes and gymnasts in the 80's and 90's......

Same question again then.........

It is relevant because this is about attitudes towards cheating (particularly PEDs in my view).

It is said that Mahatma Ghandi was asked, "What is your opinion of American civilization?"

His reply: "I think it would be an excellent idea."

I think it british civilisation. Either way - what a sarcastic git.

Ghandi is cool.

horizontalhero wrote:

seanmichaels wrote:

TopHat24/7 wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:

How about the East German athletes and gymnasts in the 80's and 90's......

Same question again then.........

It is relevant because this is about attitudes towards cheating (particularly PEDs in my view).

It is said that Mahatma Ghandi was asked, "What is your opinion of American civilization?"

His reply: "I think it would be an excellent idea."

I think it british civilisation. Either way - what a sarcastic git.

I believe it was actually 'western' civilisation, not British or American.

Either way he deserved a slap for his anser.

If Ghandi looked at Indian Culture against Western Civilisation and realised the level of exploitation and poverty...I'm sure he wouldn't have given this answer. Very much like the Dalai Lama - victims of their own success. Quoted by morons and subsequently became morons themselves.

Dalai Lama - He still campaigning at super-feather ???

No, he's too light for me to spar with if that were the case, and I'm due in the ring with him next week.

I remember some guy lied about being kell brooks sparring partner on this board before.

Well done Champagne.......well done. You are hilarious.

2013 funniest poster award...nailed on.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:I remember some guy lied about being kell brooks sparring partner on this board before.

Ponderous jab...doesn't like it to the body.........