Aviva Premiership Squads for Next Season (Hopefully up to Date)

I know that they're are a few other threads with the AP transfers etc on them but I just found a very handy list of all clubs total transfers as of today (hopefully). Let me know if any are missing.

Aviva Premiership, Ins and Outs 2013-2014


Bath
In: Juan Pablo Orlandi (PR, Racing-Métro), Leroy Houston (N8, Colomiers), Jonathan Joseph (CT, London Irish), Matt Garvey (LK, London Irish), Peter Stringer (SH, Munster), David Sisi (no8, London Irish), Anthony Watson (WG, London Irish), George Ford (FH, Leicester Tigers), Micky Young (SH, Leicester Tigers), Martin Roberts (SH, Northampton)

Out: Michael Claasens (SH, Toulon), Ben Skirving (LK, Bristol), Ben Mosses (CE, Bristol), Stephen Donald (FH, Mitsubishi Dynaboars), Simon Taylor (no8, Unknown), Sam Vesty (UB, Unknown), Jack Cuthbert (WG, Unknown), Mark McMillan (SH, Unknown), Dan Hipkiss (CE, Retiring)
Players In: 10
Players Out: 9

Exeter:
In: Dave Lewis (SH, Gloucester), Tom James (WG, Cardiff Blues), Ceri Sweeney (FH, Cardiff Blues), Fetu'u Vainikolo (WG, Connacht), Greg Bateman, Don Armand (FL, Stormers)

Out: Aly Muldowney (LK, Connacht), Ignacio Mieres (FH, Worcester), Watisoni Votu (WG, Perpignan), Miles Dorrian (FH, London Irish), Neil Clark (HK, Oyonnax), Gonzalo Camacho (WG, Leicester Tigers), Mark Foster (WG, Jersey), Josh Tatupu (CE, Carcassone), Chris Budgen (PR, Retiring), Richard Baxter (BR, Retiring), Kevin Barrett (SH, Unknown), Nic Sestaret (WG, Unknown), Si Alcott (HK, Retiring)
Players In: 6
Players Out: 13

Gloucester
In: Matt Kvesic (FL, Worcester), James Hudson (Newcastle Falcons), Tavis Knoyle (SH, Scarlets), Tom Hicks

Out: Jim Hamilton (LK, Montpellier), Peter Buxton (FL, Bristol), Dave Lewis (SH, Exeter), Dario Chistolini (PR, Zebre), Alex Brown (LK, Retiring), Martyn Thomas (FB, Unknown), Tommasso D'apice (HK, Unknown), Drew Locke (CE, Unknown), Brad Field (SH, Unknown)
Players In: 4
Players Out: 9

Harlequins
In: Paul Doran-Jones (PR, Northampton), Nick Kennedy (LK, Toulon)

Out: James Johnston (PR, Saracens), Seb Stegmann (WG, London Welsh), Rory Clegg (FH, Newcastle Falcons), Pete Browne (LK, London Welsh), Miles Mantella (London Scottish), Chris Brooker (HK, Worcester Warriors), Henry Taylor (released)
Players In: 2
Players Out: 7

Leicester Tigers
In: David Mélé (SH, Perpignan), Neil Briggs (HK, London Welsh), Sebastian de Chaves (LK, Mont-de-Marsan), Jamie Gibson (FL, London Irish), Ryan Lamb (FH, Northampton), Owen Williams (FH, Scarlets), Gonzalo Camacho (WG, Exeter), Jerome Schuster (PR, Perpignan)

Out: Alex Lewington (WG, London Irish), Jonny Harris (PR, London Irish), Jimmy Stevens (HK, London Irish), Keiran Brookes (PR, Newcastle Falcons), George Ford (FH, Bath), Micky Young (SH, Bath), Andy Forsyth (CE, Sale Sharks), Andy Symons (Tasman), Charlie Clare (Bedford), Camilo Parilli-Ocampo (Ealing), Geordan Murphy (FB, Retiring), Matt Cornwell (FH, Unknown), Martin Castrogiovanni (PR, Unknown), Rob Andrew (LK, Unknown), Brett Deacon (FL, Unknown), Richard Thorpe (FL, London Welsh), George Oliver (Unknown)
Players In: 8
Players Out: 16

London Irish
In: Alex Lewington (WG, Leicester Tigers), Jonny Harris (PR, Leicester Tigers), Jimmy Stevens (HK, Leicester Tigers) Blair Cowan (No8, Worcester Warriors), Andrew Fenby (WG, Scarlets), Jamie Hagan (PR, Leinster), Eamonn Sheridan (CE, Rotherham), Fergus Mulchrone (CE, Rotherham), Micheal Mayhew (HK, Newcastle Falcons), Miles Dorrian (FH, Exeter), Matt Parr (PR, Nottingham), Nic Rouse (LK, Nottingham)

Out: Alex Corbisiero (PR, Northampton), Jamie Gibson (FL, Leicester), Steve Shingler (CT, Scarlets), Jack Moates (SH, London Wasps), Max Lahiff (PR, Melbourne Rebels), Jonathan Joseph (CT, Bath), Matt Garvey (LK, Bath), Alex Gray (No8, England Sevens), Scott Lawson (HK, Newcastle Falcons), David Sisi (No8, Bath), Anthony Watson (WG, Bath), James Sandford (LK, Cornish Pirates), Jerry Yanuyanatawa (PR, Unknown), Conor Gaston (WG, Unknown), Joe Ansbro (CE, Retiring)
Players In: 12
Players Out: 15

London Wasps
In: Matt Mullan (PR, Worcester), Kearnan Myall (LK, Sale), Jack Moates (SH, London Irish), Joe Carlisle (FH, Worcester), Andy Goode (FH, Worcester), Nathan Hughes (FL, Auckland), Rory Pitman (No8, Rotherham Titans), Jake Cooper-Woolley (PR, Cardiff Blues), Josh Bassett (WG, Bedford Blues), Ed Jackson (No8, London Welsh), Neil Cochrane (HK, Bedford Blues), Guy Thompson (UB, Jersey), Ricky Reeves (PR, Bedford Blues)

Out: Billy Vunipola (N8, Saracens), Nicky Robinson (FH, Bristol), Sakaria Taulafo (PR, Stade Français), Stephen Jones (FH, Retiring), T Rhys Thomas (HK, Newport Gwent Dragons), Chris Mayor (CE, Unknown), Jonathan Poff (FL, Unknown), Lewis Thiede (PR, Unknown), Alex Rae (LK, Unknown), Stuart Commins (SH, Unknown), Tinus Du Plessis (FL, Unknown), Lorenzo Romano (PR, Unknown)
Players In: 13
Players Out: 12

London Welsh RELEGATED
In: Seb Stegmann (WG, Harlequins), Gonzalo Tiesi (CT, San Isidro), Julio Farias Cabello (LK, Tucuman), Pete Brown (Harlequins)

Out: Neil Briggs (HK, Leicester), Tom Arscott (FB, Sale Sharks), Paulica Ion (PR, Perpignan), Ed Jackson (No8, London Wasps), Kirill Kulemin (LK, Sale Sharks), Andy McKenzie (WG, Sale Sharks), Tom Voyce (WG, Retiring), Michael Hills (FL, Doncaster), Ed Williamson (FL, Rotherham), Adam Brown (LK, Newport), Lee Beech (FL, Newport), Jonathan Mills (LK, Sale Sharks)
Players In: 4
Players Out: 12

Newcastle Falcons PROMOTED
In: Adam Powell (CT, Saracens), Mike Blair (SH, Brive), Keiran Brookes (PR, Leicester Tigers), Andy Saull (FL, Saracens), Rory Clegg (FH, Harlequins), Scott Lawson (HK, London Irish), Fraser McKenzie (LK, Sale Sharks), Phil Godman (FH, London Scottish), Danny Barnes

Out: Jimmy Gopperth (FH, Leinster), James Hudson (LK, Gloucester), Luke Fielden (WG, England Sevens), James Hall (PR, Bristol), Michael Mayhew (HK, London Irish), Taiasina Tu’ifua (FL, Bordeaux), John Golding (retired), Steadman, Pasqueline
Players In: 9
Players Out: 9

Northampton Saints
In: Alex Corbisiero (PR, London Irish), Salesi Ma'afu (PR, Western Force), Kahn Fotuali'i (SH, Ospreys), Glen Dickson (FH, Otago), Rob Verbakel (LK, Otago), George North (WG, Scarlets), Gareth Denman (PR)

Out: Soane Tonga'uiha (PR, Racing Metro), Brian Mujati (PR, Racing Metro), Mark Sorenson (LK, Bristol), Ryan Lamb (FH, Leicester), Martin Roberts (SH, Bath), Scott Armstrong (WG, Unknown), Rhys Oakley (No8, Unknown)
Players In: 6
Players Out: 7

Sale Sharks
In: Tom Arscott (FB, London Welsh), Michael Paterson (No8, Cardiff Blues), Kirill Kulemin (LK, London Welsh), Charlie Walker-Blair (WG, Jersey), Phil Mackenzie (WG, London Welsh), Andy Forsyth (CE, Leicester Tigers), Dan Baines (HK, Rotherham), Joe Ford (FH, Leeds Carnegie), Jonathan Mills (LK, London Welsh)

Out: Kearnan Myall (LK, Wasps), Richie Vernon (FL, Glasgow), Charlie Amesbury (WG, Bristol), Andy Powell (No8, Wigan RL), Fraser McKenzie (LK, Newcastle Falcons), Richie Gray (LK, Castres), Jordan Davies (CE, Salford City Reds - RL), Alasdair Dickinson (PR, Edinburgh)
Players In: 9
Players Out: 8

Saracens
In: James Johnston (PR, Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (N8, Wasps), Marcelo Bosch (CT, Biarritz), Tim Streather (CE, Nottingham), Michael Tagicakibau (WG, Bristol), Richard Barrington (PR, Jersey)

Out: John Smit (HK, Natal Sharks), Adam Powell (CT, Newcastle Falcons), Andy Saull (FL, Newcastle Falcons), Carlos Nieto (PR, Retiring), Joe Maddock (WG, Retiring)
Players In: 6
Players Out: 5

Worcester Warriors
In: Agustín Creevy (HK, Montpellier), Leonardo Senatore (N8, Pampas XV), Ignacio Mieres (FH, Exeter), Paul Warwick (FH, Stade Français), Paul Andrew (PR, Cornish Pirates), Ofa Fainga'anuku (PR, Glasgow Warriors), Mike Williams (FL, Blue Bulls), James Stephenson (WG, Bedford Blues), Chris Brooker (HK, Harlequins), Jonathan Thomas (FL, Ospreys)

Out: Matt Mullan (PR, Wasps), Matt Kvesic (FL, Gloucester), Joe Carlisle (FH, Wasps), Andy Goode (FH, Wasps), Andy Short (CT, Bristol), Errie Claassens (FB, Bristol), Blair Cowan (No8, London Irish), Nikki Walker (WG, Edinburgh), Aleki Lutui (Edinburgh)
Players In: 8
Players Out: 9

Couple of observations:

Quins - 1 signing seems insane. Yes back youth but if we really don't have any money with the current squad them some players are getting too much. Likewise if we do have spare funds then I really think we need a couple more signings. Especially as we've lost Johnston, Browne and Brooker from the boiler room.

London Welsh have been decimated, 12 players out!

A couple of Chiefs inaccuracies from your source, yappy:

Richie Baxter was a no8 rather than a lock, and Tommy Hayes isn't moving anywhere, let alone Munster. Plus we are in the market for another hooker (Si Alcott has also retired), another tighthead to replace Budgie, and an additional lock/blindside to replace Aly Muldowney, I believe

Championship squads tend to be much smaller, Notts have only got a squad of 19 heading into next season, though they may try to sign a couple more then loan from Tigers. LW will be able to loan from other London clubs and using Jones connections Welsh players as well.

I'd expect Quins to nab a few in the summer yet. They often announce signings fairly late so I wouldn't be suprised to see them raid the Championship again.

Cheers ASBO, all updated now! Just can't find the calibre of sources to plaigerise these days...

Exeter is the team that stands out for me. 13 players out and only 4 players in. Are they now going for a more high quality elite squad to specifically target certain parts of the season... instead of a larger squad with more depth to compete on all front throughout the season? Will be interesting to see how it goes, if they are changing in that way their HC campaign will be most interesting.

Well that's the first I've seen of Mills going to Sale and I'm gutted about that. He's an outstanding, committed player and I'd have loved him to come to Glaws.

For Newcastle...LH Prop John Golding has retired sadly...

Artful_Dodger wrote:Exeter is the team that stands out for me. 13 players out and only 4 players in. Are they now going for a more high quality elite squad to specifically target certain parts of the season... instead of a larger squad with more depth to compete on all front throughout the season? Will be interesting to see how it goes, if they are changing in that way their HC campaign will be most interesting.

More to do with the academy producing about a million players this season. Check out the JWC squad. Like ASBO says few more signings in the scrum hopefully.

Agree, Exeters academy is like a bloomin conveyor belt!!

GeordieFalcon wrote:Agree, Exeters academy is like a bloomin conveyor belt!!

It's a constant source of pride for us down here in 'dere ol'Debn'!

And so it should be...your supplying half the bloomin England juniors arnt ya

Just need to get our conveyor belt restarted....

You'd better not, you know what happened last time...

Hhmm nah the problem was getting rid of all our local lads like Flood, tait etc...and employing a policy of too many foreign journeymen and poor manager.

We have a few prospects coming through now though...see what happens...

GeordieFalcon wrote:Hhmm nah the problem was getting rid of all our local lads like Flood, tait etc...and employing a policy of too many foreign journeymen and poor manager.

We have a few prospects coming through now though...see what happens...

That's what i'm worried about, too many of your young lads being lured away by the bright lights of other clubs. We seem to be able to keep hold of ours for now but who knows once the cheque books come out!

Effervescing Elephant wrote:

GeordieFalcon wrote:Hhmm nah the problem was getting rid of all our local lads like Flood, tait etc...and employing a policy of too many foreign journeymen and poor manager.

We have a few prospects coming through now though...see what happens...

That's what i'm worried about, too many of your young lads being lured away by the bright lights of other clubs. We seem to be able to keep hold of ours for now but who knows once the cheque books come out!

Thank you for Ryan Mills & Koree Britton by the way. Now who's this Henry Slade fellow...

GeordieFalcon wrote:Hhmm nah the problem was getting rid of all our local lads like Flood, tait etc...and employing a policy of too many foreign journeymen and poor manager.

We have a few prospects coming through now though...see what happens...

Having the odd player pinched each year will be an annoyance, but the decision to actively offload your England backs (Flood, Tait, Noon) and replace them with journeymen indicated a real lack of ambition. After that it was perhaps unsurprising that the likes of Parling, Brookes, Young, Gray & Clegg all left. Of course except for Parling the moves did not exactly work out for the players.

Definately...LT, hopefully the new regime is a far more appealling reason to stay...

Thorpe is leaving Tigers for London Welsh (currently down as unknown).

Could it also be that Ex aren't too fussed about getting far in Europe so a larger squad and experienced players aren't needed to cover that aspect. I imagine they'll be more focussed on a top four finish and giving the top teams as much grief as possible.

Surprised that Tigers have released Cornwall, wasn't he only just arrived at Tigers?

Could also be a tough season for London Irish and Wasps again. Both have nearly lost a full starting team and bought in close to the same numbers, that can not be good for building a settled team and getting those systems in place.

Irish to be relegation contenders again and Wasps to be mid table.

Please can we add at least some players this year?!

Seconded! I'd love a bit more experience to bed in this year and help take over from Kohn and Easter as they get on.

ChequeredJersey wrote:Please can we add at least some players this year?!

You've got PDJ, what are you complaining about? He's at least as good as JJ...

HammerofThunor wrote:Thorpe is leaving Tigers for London Welsh (currently down as unknown).

He's going to Welsh.

Looking at Wasps signings as well most of them don't have top level experience. Given the calibre going out either Dai is going to unearth some gems there or some big players still to be signed.

If not I imagine his budget may have been cut significantly. Wasps may really struggle. Newcastle seems to be in better shape this time around and actually stay up. Be interesting to see who will be in the dog fight come middle of the season.

I be hoping Saints can bring in Gareth Delve.
Instant captain and uber quality player.

Delve is a good call. But do you really need a no8? Or would you be playing him at 10?

Think Wasps will be OK, Sale, Wuss and Irish and Newcastle will be a bit behind them for me

Who do we reckon we could get in the pack, Yappy? Any EQ players we could snatch?

Irish havent lost a starting team at all.

Lahiff and Garvey were the only regulars from last season.

As good as they are, Corbs only played 1 leage game and Joseph a handful but Guy Armitage was 1st choice 13.

A lot of players are leaving though.

ChequeredJersey wrote:Who do we reckon we could get in the pack, Yappy? Any EQ players we could snatch?

I'm not actually sure that we want EQ players... Currently we probably field just three none EQ's in Kohn, Mo and Evans. Behind them it's all EQ players as well bar Botica and all three of those will be playing less rugby next year (age/injuries for Kohn, form and youngsters for Mo and the rest agreement for Nev).

So for me two more NEQ players that'll be available all season round would be perfect, especially if they're experienced.

Must be loads of French players upset in France of being ousted by foreigners to ironically come over here for us?

HongKongCherry wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:Please can we add at least some players this year?!

You've got PDJ, what are you complaining about? He's at least as good as JJ...

HammerofThunor wrote:Thorpe is leaving Tigers for London Welsh (currently down as unknown).

He's going to Welsh.

I'm pretty sure that's what I said. It's right there in your quote of me

From my quick googling skills I count that's 30 foreign players moving into the premiership this season. But 45 seem to be leaving.

Must be loads of French players upset in France of being ousted by foreigners to ironically come over here for us?

CJ, there's a lot of players heading out of Perpignan, including Mas and the brace Tigers have pinched. Could be some options from there for Quins, particularly in the tight five.

Interesting idea, I wouldn't mind a couple of gnarly French forwards playing at Quins, they'd potentially suit our style of play more then say SA players, and with Quins actually being in London we're only a short plane/Eurostar journey from Paris.

Perhaps Stade or Biarritz might have some players that want to stay in the HC next season...

yappysnap wrote:Delve is a good call. But do you really need a no8? Or would you be playing him at 10?

HammerofThunor wrote:

HongKongCherry wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:Please can we add at least some players this year?!

You've got PDJ, what are you complaining about? He's at least as good as JJ...

HammerofThunor wrote:Thorpe is leaving Tigers for London Welsh (currently down as unknown).

He's going to Welsh.

I'm pretty sure that's what I said. It's right there in your quote of me

Hammer I'm from Glawster and I donts reads two wel!

yappysnap wrote:Delve is a good call. But do you really need a no8? Or would you be playing him at 10?

Play him at Hooker and make him captain. Kind of has the face of a hooker, don't you think? Rather beaten, broken and squished.

Seriously, we actually do need an 8. Van Velze was not a great signing. Delve would lock down the base of the scrum and is a very good all around player. Can play 6 or 8. As an added bonus, it would stop the Mallinder experimentation of always playing his second rows in the back row. Drives me nutz.

HongKongCherry wrote:

HammerofThunor wrote:

HongKongCherry wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:Please can we add at least some players this year?!

You've got PDJ, what are you complaining about? He's at least as good as JJ...

HammerofThunor wrote:Thorpe is leaving Tigers for London Welsh (currently down as unknown).

He's going to Welsh.

I'm pretty sure that's what I said. It's right there in your quote of me

Hammer I'm from Glawster and I donts reads two wel!

I lived in Bath for a year, I understand.

Delve would be a great signing for Saints.

As Carpe has indicated, our 4 in & 13 out numbers don't look quite so skewed when the academy is taken into context - I'm expecting to see a lot more of Dave Ewers, Will Carrick-Smith and the U20 crew, specifically Sam Hill at centre, Henry Slade at 10, Jack Nowell on the wing and Luke Cowan-Dickie at either loosehead or hooker - with 3 or 4 additional signings expected too, that sort of balances things up a bit for Exe

yappysnap wrote:Delve is a good call. But do you really need a no8? Or would you be playing him at 10?

Why would Saints need to play him at 10? We have the current England fly-half .

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yappysnap wrote:Seriously, we actually do need an 8. Van Velze was not a great signing..

Agreed. I think he may improve but is currently too raw. Makes too many mistakes, although he did at least cut down on giving away as many penalties as the season progressed. Would love it if we signed Delve but the only place I've seen him linked is in your posts Doctor .

Myler had a decent end to the season (brain fart in final aside). They may need another option in case of injury though. Henson would be a great option for them if they can beat Bath to his signature.

formerly known as Sam wrote:Myler had a decent end to the season (brain fart in final aside). They may need another option in case of injury though. Henson would be a great option for them if they can beat Bath to his signature.

They have signed Dickson from NZ to be backup to Myler but I know nothing about him other than he has got a big boot. I agree that Myler did okay since Christmas but his best will always just be good not great. Still I admire his loyalty and at least I didn't have to keep checking my pants when he started for Saints, unlike a certain Mr Lamb who always gave the impression that a howling mistake was just around the corner (although I hope the tougher Tigers environment is finally the catalyst that makes him realise his true potential).

I wouldn't personally want Henson. I don't mind Henson the player (although he is nowhere near the standard he once was) but I'm not bothered about the circus that comes with him even though he did his best to keep a low profile at Welsh. Just think he will always be a distraction no matter where he ends up, he attracts a disproportionate amount of media interest due to his past which can only serve as a distraction to the rest of the squad.

The Dickson bloke is a utility back aged 26. No caps, no Super 15 experience and no previous time spent in the European pro leagues. Bit of a gamble having him as the only back up to Myler. Wiki has him down as playing only 33 games for Otago.

Henson played well for LW last season and covers 10 and 12, kept a low profile and will crucially be cheap at the moment.

Sam Henson kept his profile low because he was injured a lot plus he played for a low profile side.

Yappysnap I don't think Marcelo Bosch has yet been confirmed as a signing for Saracens though there was the rumour because a French newspaper said it was happening.

Just because a player is injured doesn't mean players will necessarily keep a low profile. Easy to just go boozing and get bored enough to do something stupid whilst bored with all the spare time available.

formerly known as Sam wrote:Myler had a decent end to the season (brain fart in final aside). They may need another option in case of injury though. Henson would be a great option for them if they can beat Bath to his signature.

I was quite hoping Clegg would find his way to Northampton prior to deciding on returning to Newcastle. I just felt his passing game could have worked well bringing the likes of Burrell, the Pisi brothers, Foden, Elliot, etc into play. He stagnated a bit at Quins I think it's fair to say but in his age-group days he had a brilliant passing game so hopefully can recapture that back at Newcastle - though he may well be keeping Joel Hodgson out of the side which is a shame.