JWC 2013

by The Saint Mon 03 Jun 2013, 12:28 pm

First topic message reminder :

It's that time of year again where the future stars of world rugby compete for the top prize. This year the Junior World Cup is being held in France across stadiums in Nantes, Vannes and La Roche-sur-yon. I've toured Nantes and La Roche in the past. All of the guys should have a great team there and receive the warmest of welcomes from the French. The reduction in the No. of pools leaves us with some mouth-watering clashes this year, so much so that the match-ups are verging on 2/3 pools of death.

A
Team
England
France
South Africa
USA

France 6-30 England
South Africa 97-0 USA
South Africa 31 - 24 England
France 45-3 USA
England 109-0 USA
France 19-26 South Africa

B
Team
Australia
Fiji
Ireland
New Zealand

Ireland 19-15 Australia
New Zealand 59-6 Fiji
Ireland 46 - 3 Fiji
New Zealand 14 - 10 Australia
New Zealand 31 - 26 Ireland
Australia 46 - 12 Fiji

C
Team
Argentina
Samoa
Scotland
Wales

Wales 42-3 Samoa
Argentina 44-13 Scotland
Argentina 28 -16 Samoa
Wales 26 - 21 Scotland
Wales 25 - 20 Argentina
Scotland 36 - 33 Samoa

9th Place Semi Final
Samoa 19 -18 Fiji
Scotland 39 -3 USA

5th Place Semi Final
Argentina 22 - 15 Australia
Ireland 8 - 9 France

Semi Finals
South Africa 17 - 18 Wales
New Zealand 21 - 33 England

11th Place Play-Off
Fiji 46 - 12 USA

9th Place Play-Off
Samoa 33 - 24 Scotland

7th Place Play-Off
Australia 28 - 17 Ireland

5th Place Play-Off
Argentina 34 - 37 France

3rd Place Play-off
South Africa 41 - 34 New Zealand

Final
Wales 15 - 23 England

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My team Wales may have the easiest pool, well that was my initial thought anyway. That was until I heard that in recent months Argentina beat JWC holders South Africa twice. We can't afford any complacency against Scotland either because we could easily slip up. I'm hoping Wales can go a step further than last years third place finish but without Cory Allen, Harry Robinson and Rhys Patchell we will find that very difficult. I guess Wilson will have them back to playing route 1 because we have quite a strong pack.

Future stars to look out for: I've been impressed by England captain Jack Clifford every time I've watched him play for the U20s, and Ireland No.9 Luke McGrath. Baby Blacks captain Ardie Savea seems to have been the topic of conversation on here too but I can't comment after not seeing him play.

http://www.irb.com/jwc/

by Taylorman Fri 14 Jun 2013, 1:43 am

Cool...the babies get a crack at England before the AB's. England have looked very good as well.

by rainbow-warrior Fri 14 Jun 2013, 11:08 am

Wales have every chance in this competition after beating an Argentinian team with 7 full capped players. The Irish pushed NZ to the wire and could have won.

Fact is the future is looking bright for Wales what with the U20's playing, the 7's squad training , a Wales team in Japan and 15 in the Lions squad.

by The Saint Sun 16 Jun 2013, 2:32 pm

ChequeredJersey wrote:
The Saint wrote:The Baby Boks looked very strong and very skilful from what I seen in the highlights. It also looks as if you have another Schalk Burger coming through. Same style of play, same hair and everything!

Who? Du Plessis or Smit?

Jacques Du Plessis, however he wore 7 against England and France. He's a very impressive all-round player and over 2 metres tall. I can't believe Biltong thought the Baby Boks were going to do rubbish at this tournament, I think they're going to win the title.

p.s. Anyone know what is up with the quote/unquoting?

by Taffineastbourne Mon 17 Jun 2013, 3:31 pm

Have not got a clue!

The Saint wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:
The Saint wrote:The Baby Boks looked very strong and very skilful from what I seen in the highlights. It also looks as if you have another Schalk Burger coming through. Same style of play, same hair and everything!

Who? Du Plessis or Smit?

Jacques Du Plessis, however he wore 7 against England and France. He's a very impressive all-round player and over 2 metres tall. I can't believe Biltong thought the Baby Boks were going to do rubbish at this tournament, I think they're going to win the title.

p.s. Anyone know what is up with the quote/unquoting?

by ChequeredJersey Mon 17 Jun 2013, 3:33 pm

Taffineastbourne wrote:Have not got a clue!
The Saint wrote:
ChequeredJersey wrote:
The Saint wrote:The Baby Boks looked very strong and very skilful from what I seen in the highlights. It also looks as if you have another Schalk Burger coming through. Same style of play, same hair and everything!

Who? Du Plessis or Smit?

Jacques Du Plessis, however he wore 7 against England and France. He's a very impressive all-round player and over 2 metres tall. I can't believe Biltong thought the Baby Boks were going to do rubbish at this tournament, I think they're going to win the title.

p.s. Anyone know what is up with the quote/unquoting?

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by PenfroPete Tue 18 Jun 2013, 12:42 pm

TUESDAY 18TH JUNE
http://www.irb.com/jwc/teams/index.html

(17:00 – 19:10) – 17:15 – SOUTH AFRICA v WALES – IRB JUNIOR WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP SEMI-FINAL – S4C & TG4 (17:05 – 19:03) plus Sky Sports2 (17:00 – 19:30) pl
Referee: Luke Pearce (England)
Assistant Referees: Marius Mitrea (Italy), Andrew McMenemy (Scotland)
TMO: Graham Hughes (England)

http://www.irb.com/jwc/matches/match=13957/index.html

(19:35 – 21:35) – 19:45 – NEW ZEALAND v ENGLAND – IRB JUNIOR WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS – TG4 plus Sky Sports2 (19:30 – 22:00)
Referee: Stuart Berry (South Africa)
Assistant Referees: Marius Mitrea (Italy), Andrew McMenemy (Scotland)
TMO: Eric Gauzins (France)

http://www.irb.com/jwc/matches/match=13958/index.html

by PenfroPete Tue 18 Jun 2013, 7:01 pm

by aitchw Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:03 pm

Two great semis yesterday, well done all concerned. Listened to the after match interviews and NZ really hurting over that loss. The competition's been really close this time and great to see NH sides contesting the title. These youngsters promise much for the future of 6Ns rugby.

by Cyril Thu 20 Jun 2013, 8:28 pm

I literally can't wait for this game Smile

Lions, JWC final and England (and Wales) Cricket v India all on the weekend. Brilliant!

by PenfroPete Fri 21 Jun 2013, 2:29 pm

GeordieFalcon wrote:I'd like to know what % of players who play in these tournaments actually make it to the senior international levels...

This may be of interest -
http://www.inattheside.com/15-jwc-graduates-in-british-irish-lions-squad/

by whocares Fri 21 Jun 2013, 3:33 pm

PenfroPete wrote:
GeordieFalcon wrote:I'd like to know what % of players who play in these tournaments actually make it to the senior international levels...

This may be of interest -
http://www.inattheside.com/15-jwc-graduates-in-british-irish-lions-squad/

you have to look at the former U21 rugby world cup as the U20 only started recently. it gives you an idea of the number of players that made to senior international level.

for instance here are the winning teams till 2005. you will find a lot of familar names but not many of them made the senior boks or ABs team although more than a few had a decent pro career after. cant find france 2006 winning team but I remember Domingo, Beauxis, Medart, Tillous Bordes, Chouly and Mermoz played.

2005 SA :

Heineke VAN DER MERWE, Chiliboy RALEPELLE, Sangoni MXOLI; Nicolai BLIGNAUT, Cliff MILTON; Derick KUUN, Hilton LOBBERTS, Pieter LOUW; Paul DELPORT, Morne STEYN; Marius DELPORT, Thaborg MOLEFE, Earl ROSE, Cedric MKHIZE; Hendrick DANILLER.

subs that played in the final : Ruaan PIENAAR, Gerhart MOSTERT, Davon RAUBENHEIMER, Harry VERMAAS, Mzwandile STICK, Adriaan STRAUSS

2004 NZ :

B. FRANKS, John PARAENGA, John AFOA; C. Clarke, J. RYAN; G. NAOUPU, Jerome KAINO, J. POFF; T. MORLAND, Stephen DONALD; Rudy WULFF, Ben ATIGA, Luke McALLISTER, Anthony KOONWAIYU; G. HORTON

subs that played in the final: Piri WEEPU, K. HAIU, M. TUU'U, T. PAULO, H. GEAR.

2003 NZ

Tim FAIRBROTHER, John PARAENGA, John AFOA; Kane THOMPSON, Ross KENNEDY; Jerome KAINO, Tom HARDING, Thomas WALDROM; Jimmy COWAN, Stephen DONALD, Pohi TE WHARE, Sam TUITUPOU, Lifeimi MAFI, Hayden PEDERSON; Ben ATIGA.

subs that played in the final: Kevin O'NEILL, Soane TONGA'UIHA, Adam THOMPSON, Tusi PISI, Anthyony KOONWAIYU

2002 SA

Guthro STEENKAMP, Gary BOTHA, Patrick BARNARD; Stefan VAN KOOYEN, Juan SMITH; Roland BERNARD, Pedrie WANNENBURG, Jacques CRONJE; Enrico JANUARIE, Swys SWART; Ashwin WILLEMSE, Deney SWARTBOOI, Clyde RATHBONE, Jean DE VILLIERS; Jorrie MULLER.

subs that played in the final : Dean HOPP, Rayno GERBER, Quinton GELDENHUIS, Schalk BURGER, Fourie DU PREEZ, Tsepo KOKOALI, JP Nel.

by ChequeredJersey Fri 21 Jun 2013, 3:45 pm

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:I literally can't wait for this game

Lions, JWC final and England (and Wales) Cricket v India all on the weekend. Brilliant!

and then Wimbledon commences ...

by The Saint Sat 22 Jun 2013, 4:50 pm

What a game this is going to be. Wales are well overdue a win over the world class (that's only at this level mind) England and it looks like it could come at the right time Wink

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Will update the thread later on, I've had a busy couple weeks.

by The Saint Sun 23 Jun 2013, 10:53 am

The big one kicks off at 5:45.
Anyone know if the other play-off games are being aired?

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