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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 05 Jun 2013, 11:17 am

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No offerings from Force yet, good defencive speed, and working hard though...

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Post by rodders Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:13 pm

AWJ has been very solid.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:14 pm

Best turned over again after going down on a ball without cause too!!

Sheehan looks like he wants to fight the world, pushing Cole while he's not in his way

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Post by chargedowntotheface Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:14 pm

I wish Sheehan would shut up, reckon I'd have cracked one at him by now, haha

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Post by bsando Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:14 pm

YEWWWW!!! Try time FORCE!!

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Post by Guest Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:15 pm

I'd actually agree with T1000 that you are being overly critical. Calling somebody's performance pathetic is a massive over reaction and very poor form, particularly when you're wrong.

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Post by rodders Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:15 pm

Like the cut of the forces no9's jib .

Try Force!
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:15 pm

I can't believe what I'm reading.

Halfpenny's kicking is absolutely immaculate and his all round game is good too.

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Post by rainbow-warrior Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:15 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:
sirBiggles wrote:
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t1000advancedprototype wrote:Halfpenny best goal kicker in the world.

Watching him stand next to jinks is legend overload.

Shame his defence, passing and carrying has been pathetic this half then...

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What game are you watching...

He saved a def Force try when Best overthrew the lineout and the Force ran 70 M down field. He's been involved in the line attacking...

Halfpenny wasnt Player of the 6 Nations for nothing, and I wont be surprised if he ends up as player of this series.


He made s imple tackle from behind because he was outpaced to the ball even though he had a big headstart!!!

He's carried like a forward, passes poorly and only made 1 or 2 tackles, he has offered little so far, and looks off the pace

Complete and utter crap
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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:15 pm

Best again laying on the wrong side, then talking to the ref while the 7 taps and goes.

SOB has been good at the flashy stuff but he hasn't the ground game to play 7, and his mistake leads to a try.

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Post by bsando Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:16 pm

Yeahh nice Sheehan! Keep that boot going mate.. and your mouth Wink

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Post by nathan Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:16 pm

That force try might be a good thing for the lions, get them to refocus on their defence.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:17 pm

Risca Rev wrote:I'd actually agree with T1000 that you are being overly critical. Calling somebody's performance pathetic is a massive over reaction and very poor form, particularly when you're wrong.

Show me what 1/2p's done well, I havn't mentioned his kicking cos it has been impeccable! Pathetic was the wrong word but he has been poor by his standards!!!

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:18 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:I'd actually agree with T1000 that you are being overly critical. Calling somebody's performance pathetic is a massive over reaction and very poor form, particularly when you're wrong.

Show me what 1/2p's done well, I havn't mentioned his kicking cos it has been impeccable! Pathetic was the wrong word but he has been poor by his standards!!!

Lol

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Post by Biltong Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:18 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:I'd actually agree with T1000 that you are being overly critical. Calling somebody's performance pathetic is a massive over reaction and very poor form, particularly when you're wrong.

Show me what 1/2p's done well, I havn't mentioned his kicking cos it has been impeccable! Pathetic was the wrong word but he has been poor by his standards!!!
Poor?

He has done what he is supposed to do so far, had little opportunity to run, had one tackle that was a bit ineffective, otherwise what more would you want?
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Post by sirBiggles Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:18 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:
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t1000advancedprototype wrote:Halfpenny best goal kicker in the world.

Watching him stand next to jinks is legend overload.

Shame his defence, passing and carrying has been pathetic this half then...

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What game are you watching...

He saved a def Force try when Best overthrew the lineout and the Force ran 70 M down field. He's been involved in the line attacking...

Halfpenny wasnt Player of the 6 Nations for nothing, and I wont be surprised if he ends up as player of this series.


He made s imple tackle from behind because he was outpaced to the ball even though he had a big headstart!!!

He's carried like a forward, passes poorly and only made 1 or 2 tackles, he has offered little so far, and looks off the pace

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Post by Artful_Dodger Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:19 pm

rodders wrote:AWJ has been very solid.

Solid but very much unspectacular. I would worry about who is making the lineout calls to keep going long as well givens that it hasn't been working. Ian Evans has been very very quiet as well.

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:19 pm

Another Welshman scores! Dai Vunipola!

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Post by Biltong Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:20 pm


Goodness but the Force defence is poor today, how many missed tackles thus far?
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Post by Guest Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:20 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:
Risca Rev wrote:I'd actually agree with T1000 that you are being overly critical. Calling somebody's performance pathetic is a massive over reaction and very poor form, particularly when you're wrong.

Show me what 1/2p's done well, I havn't mentioned his kicking cos it has been impeccable! Pathetic was the wrong word but he has been poor by his standards!!!

What's he done wrong? You mention that he's carried like a forward, well he's working in no space. He's wrong to carry strongly in that instance?

I'm not saying he's playing well, but he's not doing anything wrong. Certainly not a pathetic performance. Glad you accept it was poor form on your part.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:20 pm

Biltong wrote:
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Risca Rev wrote:I'd actually agree with T1000 that you are being overly critical. Calling somebody's performance pathetic is a massive over reaction and very poor form, particularly when you're wrong.

Show me what 1/2p's done well, I havn't mentioned his kicking cos it has been impeccable! Pathetic was the wrong word but he has been poor by his standards!!!
Poor?

He has done what he is supposed to do so far, had little opportunity to run, had one tackle that was a bit ineffective, otherwise what more would you want?

He's been outpaced to a baal from kicked in the 22, despite having a head start, then made a simple tackle. He has carried into midfield and shouldve been turned over twice as first man caught him, and he has made a wayward pass (of very few opportunities to pass)

His kicking has been excellent but his all round game poor, I'm waiting, Petty has been far better when we've kicked to him!!!

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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:22 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:
rodders wrote:AWJ has been very solid.

Solid but very much unspectacular. I would worry about who is making the lineout calls to keep going long as well givens that it hasn't been working. Ian Evans has been very very quiet as well.

AWJ has rivalled POC and Grey today, he has been excellent in every phacet! Not sure if he's calling the lineouts but Bests throwing is killing it not the calls!

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Post by SecretFly Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:22 pm

Halfpenny is the 15, certainly for the first test. Sexton won't admit it but he's taking a lot of psychological pressure off Sexton with that kicking and allowing Sexton to concentrate on the game management stuff.

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:23 pm

What an amazing kicking performance.

This eclipses Dewi Grufydd's perfect kicking performance in the 1898 cup final when banwen beat Onllwyn 3-0.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:24 pm

SecretFly wrote:Halfpenny is the 15, certainly for the first test. Sexton won't admit it but he's taking a lot of psychological pressure off Sexton with that kicking and allowing Sexton to concentrate on the game management stuff.

He was for me too going into the tour, but this performance has been poor for him, and Hogg may be thinking that his attacking option may be enough to creep him in.

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Post by fa0019 Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:24 pm

t1000advancedprototype wrote:Another Welshman scores! Dai Vunipola!

Come on t1000 keep it fair... if you want to call Vunipola a Welshman I think you'll have to call North, Cuthbert and Davies all Englishman.

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Post by Hookisms and Hyperbole Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:27 pm

AWJ has not come near the performances in the previous game to Gray or POC. Indeed he played better himself when he came on. Workmanlike and solid but not as good as he precious starters. The lineout is a shambles in truth and it is not all down to Best. It's simplistic and unknowledgable to state otherwise. His throwing is most definitely off though bit the timing of the jumpers and lifters is noticeably off. He has been better around the park than Hibbard and Youngs but has to watch the penalty count.

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Post by Guest Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:27 pm

Fa, it think it was a joke because of Vunipola's welsh accent.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:28 pm

Yellow was a bit harsh there, I thought the lions clear out was poor, and a few forwards slow to hit the ruck.

We should see one way traffic from here on though, Force have defended very well and hard, and they should start tiring.

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:28 pm

fa0019 wrote:
t1000advancedprototype wrote:Another Welshman scores! Dai Vunipola!

Come on t1000 keep it fair... if you want to call Vunipola a Welshman I think you'll have to call North, Cuthbert and Davies all Englishman.

I completely agree! Don't forget Lydiate. The farmer born in Manchester!

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Post by Guest Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:28 pm

Fa, it think it was a joke because of Vunipola's welsh accent.

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Post by Biltong Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:29 pm

This is too easy, another try with very poor defence by the Force.
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Post by t1000advancedprototype Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:29 pm

Griff wrote:Fa, it think it was a joke because of Vunipola's welsh accent.

Glad to see someone pays attention.

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Post by belovedfrosties Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:29 pm

Try for Bowe, well deserved

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Post by fa0019 Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:29 pm

Griff wrote:Fa, it think it was a joke because of Vunipola's welsh accent.

I didn't expect my comment to be take seriously... after all it was directed to t1000.

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:30 pm

Halfpenny is rubbish. All easy kicks so far.

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Post by SecretFly Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:30 pm

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SecretFly wrote:Halfpenny is the 15, certainly for the first test. Sexton won't admit it but he's taking a lot of psychological pressure off Sexton with that kicking and allowing Sexton to concentrate on the game management stuff.

He was for me too going into the tour, but this performance has been poor for him, and Hogg may be thinking that his attacking option may be enough to creep him in.

It's one game blues...and it's perfect kicking. The kicking will be consistent and it'll win games. The rest that you see as his weakness can be improved on in more intense games. He's a big game player.


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Post by Guest Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:30 pm

fa0019 wrote:
Griff wrote:Fa, it think it was a joke because of Vunipola's welsh accent.

I didn't expect my comment to be take seriously... after all it was directed to t1000.


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Post by Biltong Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:30 pm

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Griff wrote:Fa, it think it was a joke because of Vunipola's welsh accent.

Glad to see someone pays attention.
Next time put a smiley next to it, so people know you are joking. Your posts are controversial often enough for people to think you are wumming again. Wink
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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:31 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:AWJ has not come near the performances in the previous game to Gray or POC. Indeed he played better himself when he came on. Workmanlike and solid but not as good as he precious starters. The lineout is a shambles in truth and it is not all down to Best. It's simplistic and unknowledgable to state otherwise. His throwing is most definitely off though bit the timing of the jumpers and lifters is noticeably off. He has been better around the park than Hibbard and Youngs but has to watch the penalty count.

Totally ignorant comment, Bests throwing is late and off target, he mixed up his signal in the first half too!

AWJ although hasn't been beating defenders, and looking flashy has been the rock of our pack, made the gameline in the tight every time and is the reason SOB or Heaslip have an ounce of space, even Vunipolas profitting in the wider chanells, thats not for no reason, AWJ hasn't taken the ball into less than 3 defenders including wrapping up the 7 lots of times.

Please watch the entire picture as opposed to the flashy stuff

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Post by Guest Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:31 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:Yellow was a bit harsh there, I thought the lions clear out was poor, and a few forwards slow to hit the ruck.

We should see one way traffic from here on though, Force have defended very well and hard, and they should start tiring.

If the Lions are slow to clear out, then it makes his refusal to roll away even more foolish. Definite yellow, no attempt to roll, in the red zone.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:31 pm

thebluesmancometh wrote:
SecretFly wrote:Halfpenny is the 15, certainly for the first test. Sexton won't admit it but he's taking a lot of psychological pressure off Sexton with that kicking and allowing Sexton to concentrate on the game management stuff.

He was for me too going into the tour, but this performance has been poor for him, and Hogg may be thinking that his attacking option may be enough to creep him in.

He's not close to O'Connell and Gray on this performance and when the lineout is a disaster the lineout captain has to take some responsibility. O'Connell hardly had an immaculate lineout to work with against the Baa Baa's but still produced. He was also much more prominent in the loose, particularly carrying than AWJ who has been very quiet in the loose today. Ian Evans has been even more quiet.

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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:32 pm

Risca Rev wrote:
thebluesmancometh wrote:Yellow was a bit harsh there, I thought the lions clear out was poor, and a few forwards slow to hit the ruck.

We should see one way traffic from here on though, Force have defended very well and hard, and they should start tiring.

If the Lions are slow to clear out, then it makes his refusal to roll away even more foolish. Definite yellow, no attempt to roll, in the red zone.

Ye I see your point

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Post by bsando Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:32 pm

YEEEWWW FORCE!!

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Post by t1000advancedprototype Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:32 pm

I don't think Bluesman was around in 1997 to see the 2nd test or even England in 2003.

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Post by profitius Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:33 pm

Soft scores for the Lions to concede.
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Post by Biltong Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:33 pm

If you consider how few times the Force are attacking then the Lions need to work on their defences.

Two tries in what three visits to the Lions 22?
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Post by Knowsit17 Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:33 pm

When Force are scoring they're making it look too easy. Lions going to have to have much better answers in defence vs Australia.

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Post by bsando Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:33 pm

2nd string Force side have done pretty well considering the opposition. Forwards have been really good at times

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Post by thebluesmancometh Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:34 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:
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SecretFly wrote:Halfpenny is the 15, certainly for the first test. Sexton won't admit it but he's taking a lot of psychological pressure off Sexton with that kicking and allowing Sexton to concentrate on the game management stuff.

He was for me too going into the tour, but this performance has been poor for him, and Hogg may be thinking that his attacking option may be enough to creep him in.

He's not close to O'Connell and Gray on this performance and when the lineout is a disaster the lineout captain has to take some responsibility. O'Connell hardly had an immaculate lineout to work with against the Baa Baa's but still produced. He was also much more prominent in the loose, particularly carrying than AWJ who has been very quiet in the loose today. Ian Evans has been even more quiet.

Evans has dissapointed, but AWJ has carried as much as anyone, just watch how many and who he ties in every time, it looks to me like Gats has had a word and said find the openside and hit him every time = Job done

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Post by sirBiggles Wed 05 Jun 2013, 12:34 pm

I reckon Halfpenny must have pinched Dan Parked laser guided kicking Tee...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/8598828.stm

Very Happy

What a kicker.... what a player...

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