Lions Selection - The differnce between Whinging and Frustration.

First topic message reminder :

The selection of Corbs has made a lot of Scots guys tempers flare, mine included.

I feel I should create a thread on the mind-set of a typical Scottish and Lions fan (myself) to help the posters from the other 3 nations understand that there is a huge different between whinging and frustration. I'll set my stall out here.

Straight off the bat I felt that Scotland would possibly have a chance of 7-8 tourists. Glasgow's excellent form in the Pro12 and Visser's phenomenal try scoring strike rate made a compelling case for them. As did Kelly Brown's thumping shifts in the 6N and for Sarries ultimitely unsuccessful HC and Premiership charges.

I felt that the following Scots had a chance to tour :

Grant *
Gray *
Brown *
Laidlaw
Scott
Maitland *
Visser
Hogg *

I always said that I would have been over the moon with 5 (*).


We got 3 out of that lot. I whinged a bit then about Lydiate’s selection and I’ll do the same now. Had Scottish captain been left behind for Chris Robshaw or Ryan Jones I would have been devastated but understood 100%. Robshaw and Jones have been fantastic for Quins, O’s, England and Wales all season. Whereas Lydiate had barely played any rugby.

The cycle has repeated itself again with Healy either being flown home through injury or by biting someone, again logic has been ignored and 3 better, fitter players in the form of Sheridan, James and Grant have been left behind.

I was Frustrated when North, Cuthbert and Bowe got ahead of Visser. North and Cuthbert are classy operators and Bowe has already got Lions experience. Visser is a great player and a good try scorer but I understand him being left behind for the players who did travel.

I was also frustrated when Laidlaw got left behind. I have never rated Phillips, but I know what he can bring to the game. Youngs has also been electric for club and country so I can understand his inclusion too.

So to conclude, I am a whinger. I’m whinging because I think the Lions Coaching staff has picked the wrong player for the wrong reason. Frustration for me would come to the fore when I want to see my Scottish players represented but I know in my heart of hearts there are better players out there and they have been picked for that reason.

A this rate James Robson will be the only scotsman to run onto any of the test pitches 

I didn't think Robson deserved his place - I thought JPR or Gwyn Jones for definite and with the austerity and economic situation even Jamie could have done a job share

There is a simple difference between whinging and frustration. Your own complaint is due to frustration, everyone elses is whinging.

RubyGuby wrote:I didn't think Robson deserved his place - I thought JPR or Gwyn Jones for definite and with the austerity and economic situation even Jamie could have done a job share

well, they needed someone to translate for Andy Irvine.

Kearney's 15 ability will (hopefully!) be sharpened up with Schmidt now in charge of a less defensively orientated Ireland (hopefully twice!).

Then again, so should Hogg like the involvement of Cotter (when he eventually gets to Scotland)

Who should play 15 in the lesser games?  Well, pull straws for that one.  I just don't like the idea that the players on the 'lesser' teams have to pay the price of playing in sides that are less manicured in composition than the 'stronger' sides.  You can't be at you best if you're not encircled by best options in best positions.

The difference between whinging and frustration: Beale's footing. 

LondonTiger wrote:

RubyGuby wrote:I didn't think Robson deserved his place - I thought JPR or Gwyn Jones for definite and with the austerity and economic situation even Jamie could have done a job share

well, they needed someone to translate for Andy Irvine.

From what I've heard, on a tour as injury-ridden as this, it's probably for the best that JPR isn't the doctor...

The difference between Whinging and Frustration?
About 12 points in a game of Scrabble.

Who's wife has Gray shagged?

Here now aren't I? 

ChequeredJersey wrote:
From what I've heard, on a tour as injury-ridden as this, it's probably for the best that JPR isn't the doctor...

He may be more suited to caring for aussie backs

Glas a du wrote:Who's wife has Gray shagged?

Never touched her. She said she was 18.

Oh wait, shouldn't have said that here................

doctor_grey wrote:

Glas a du wrote:Who's wife has Gray shagged?

Never touched her.  She said she was 18.

Oh wait, shouldn't have said that here................

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Those trips to Italy have a habit of causing court cases..

doctor_grey wrote:

Glas a du wrote:Who's wife has Gray shagged?

Never touched her.  She said she was 18.

Oh wait, shouldn't have said that here................