Season 6 Homepage

by **Ozzy3213** Fri 07 Jun 2013, 8:02 pm

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Breaking News: Leicester Tigers win Aviva Premiership final after a penalty shoot out against Harlequins

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2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish

POS	Aviva Premiership	PLAYED	WON	DREW	LOST	P F	P A	P D	T F	T A	TBP	LBP	POINTS
1	Bath Rugby	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	Exeter Chiefs	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
3	Gloucester	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
4	Harlequins	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
5	Leicester Tigers	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
6	London Irish	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
7	London Welsh	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
8	Newcastle Falcons	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
9	Northampton Saints	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
10	Sale Sharks	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
11	Saracens	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
12	Worcester Warriors	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

Links

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Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
European Homepage
Game History Page

Welcome to Season 6 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1991.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.

Transfers wrote:

Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

Structured Window

No cash will be used and each team will get effectively free transfers by way of a draft, which will run 12th, 11th, 10th …… 1st, 12th, 11th,10th… 1st place side. This will run from 10th June 2013 until all teams have had their two picks.

Open Window

Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Saturday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. If you are not providing a descriptive prediction you will be restricted to predicting a 1 point win either way.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 11:33 am

Yea not easy, lays with Gatland. Squad has shown to be too small

by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 2:04 pm

Anyone
Want Zac Guildford ? Going cheap

by dammit_chris Tue 18 Jun 2013, 3:05 pm

Not really sure how you can say Wade looks lost at this level. Thought we'd lose that one, as you can't score tries in the backs when you've got a ten who isn't a ten, then four players who have had one training session with the Lions.

Also can't do anything when your hooker doesn't have the ability to throw into a lineout.

Gutted Wentzel is leaving, was such an important player for Wasps, can't see us getting a replacement in before the start of the season!

by stnick88 Tue 18 Jun 2013, 3:18 pm

Best was shocking.

It wa always going to be a tough ask for Wade but he knocked on a couple of times and was brushed off easily for their try which was a shame. But he didn't get any front foot ball to work with.

Yeh that is a big loss Chris especially as this stage.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 3:56 pm

He did look lost.

He's not had ideal prep by a long shot but his basics where poor under increased pressure and his defence got shown up. We wanted to know if he can step up and at the minute that's a no for me.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 4:14 pm

"Wade out of his depth"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/article-2343821/FIVE-THINGS-WE-LEARNED-Wade-depth-Best-good-Hogg-learn.html

by dammit_chris Tue 18 Jun 2013, 4:20 pm

Made one bad tackle, but Hogg and Kearney also beaten - he shouldnt have missed that tackle and I've always said that his defence isn't world class - but by no means is he out of his depth, just have to look at some of his games in Europe against likes of Leinster and Biaritz and his debut for England. He's played against far better teams and done very well.

Assume that you also think Best is out of his depth as well with all his basic errors?

by **Ozzy3213** Tue 18 Jun 2013, 4:24 pm

Likewise Tupric must be out his depth as we got hammered at the breakdown, and Youngs must be out of his depth as he had a poor game.

You can't judge somebody on one appearance in a makeshift team having just stepped off a plane from the other side of the world.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 4:25 pm

Best has been one of Ireland's best players for years, he's had a really poor tour.

Wade struggled throughout defensively, it wasn't just one shocking tackle.

I'm not saying he won't improve as exposure will show weakness (and he's had little time to gel) but we wanted to see if he could cut the mustard and he so far has looked well out of it.

Granted one match but surely you'd agree he was poor?

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 4:28 pm

I've got reservations about Tipuric but he's performed on the top stage.

This has been one of Wades biggest tests and he failed tbh. He was shown up defensively, can he play at this level? Im unsure.

Playing devils advocate more than slating the guy, he's looked great in the prem but maybe he won't step up??

by dammit_chris Tue 18 Jun 2013, 4:30 pm

I wouldn't say he was poor, no poorer than most of the other backs - with Kearney the standout exception. He made 2 good turnovers, chased well and took a few restarts through chasing. He made some basic errors, but you'd hope that was down to the travelling and jet lag, as he certainly doesn't lack the skillsets.

That backline was never going to click, or create chances for him. I still have doubts about how he would go against Savea/North type winger as they would be able to throw him about, but when Woodward says that England have to pick him and build their whole attack around him like he did with Robinson then I'd take a lot from that.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 4:32 pm

You don't think he was poor? I must have watched a different game

by dammit_chris Tue 18 Jun 2013, 4:38 pm

Normally do... Wink

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 4:39 pm

As in I watch it and you read the report lol

AI back 3?

11. Yarde
15. Brown
14. Ashton

by dammit_chris Tue 18 Jun 2013, 4:46 pm

Questionable that

Wales v SA is a good game so far on SS2. Looking forward to England v All Blacks later.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 4:48 pm

I'm guessing you'd start Wade & Foden?

by dammit_chris Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:01 pm

I'd start Foden for certain, I think he has a lot more to offer. Didn't think much of Brown in Argentina against limited opposition, and although he's a very good 15 I think he falls short of being a top international, while Foden has the attributes to be the best.

I would certainly start Ashton, who had a good end to the season for Sarries - but other wing spot is very open and will depend on the style Lancaster players, if he wants an expansive game then Wade, but I'd like May to step up and show what he can do.

A lot depends on the centres as well - not sure if Twelvetrees is the answer, and Eastmond could be too small there, while Barritt is just a very good defender.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:03 pm

Foden is very much 3rd choice for me, has looked awful defensively. I wouldn't have him anywhere near Brown

by **Ozzy3213** Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:03 pm

15. Brown
14. Wade
13. Tuilagi
12. Twelvetrees
11. Yarde
10. Burns
9. Youngs

21. Care 22. Farrell 23. Eastmond

would be my backs for the first game of the AI's.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:06 pm

Burns/Farrell a tough one, Burns defence looked solid but unsure a little him.

I'd have that backline bar Ashton for Wade.

by dammit_chris Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:09 pm

Each time Foden came on against Argentina he offered so much more than Brown in attack, which we need and I'd build the team around having a rock solid midfield so 36 and Tuilagi and a play making 10. If only we had a winger like North to pick (hope Prop doesnt read that!)

It is a shame we didnt take Daly on tour, think he showed enough for the BaaBaas and Wasps that he deserved a chance and would be a great player for the bench.

If we can step away from guys like Flood, Goode, Barritt, Strettle who are never going to take us to the next level then I'd be happy.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:15 pm

Flood & Barritt, especially Flood(who's our best FH still imo) still have a future.

Foden was coming on at 60mins against part timers, can't judge him on that. Arg were a tough contest for a half but fell away.

Foden not the future, his defence is a shambles. Unless he can sharpen up I'd stick with Brown and Goode.

by dammit_chris Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:17 pm

Goode's defence is far worse than Fodens and he is still an excellent defender, he had a few issues with concentration last year when coming back from injury and got booshed by Daly against Wasps, but think he is one of the best tackling fullbacks going - just look at the AP final where he was awesome.

To say his defence is a shambles is a bit baffling.

by **Ozzy3213** Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:18 pm

Goode isn't the future, he does not provide enough of an attacking threat.

Brown is the best bet right now. It will be interesting to see if either Jack Nowell or Anthony Watson get any game time at 15 for Chiefs or Bath this season.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:21 pm

Goodes defence is better than Fodens imo, their straight up tackling is similar but Goode's positioning is on another planet.

I just don't rate Foden of late, he's not the player he was.

Nowell looks an exciting talent

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:25 pm

Has Wentzal retired then? Sounded like he pretty much sacking it off

by dammit_chris Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:36 pm

An onform Foden is by far the best fullback England have. He went from making mistakes and costing Saints tries to winning games on his own at times. Linking up with North next year will see him return to his best.

Goode offers nothing for me - they said he's creative but didnt see one telling move where we scored from something he did.

Wentzel will end up at a s15 team I'd imagine, just sounded like he wanted to go back to SA with his young family. Don't know what Wasps will do without him, as quite clear Young was building a team around a dominant lineout.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:40 pm

I'd be surprised if a S15 took him up, Kruger only just made it after an impressive CC and he's a much better player.

You say "an on form Foden" but he's not been anywhere near the player he was in 2010/11. Still very much a 3rd choice imo

by Fluxy Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:54 pm

Even though Eastmond has played one game against limited opposition, I would to see him link up with Tuilagi one day. You could see him putting JJ into some decent positions with ball in hand, but he hasn't been in the best of form. Just imagine what Manu could have done of Eastmond or even vice versa.

by prop_lyd Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:54 pm

get the feck in!!!!!!!!

by dammit_chris Tue 18 Jun 2013, 5:55 pm

Wow, Wales made the u20 WC final. Did not see that coming.

by prop_lyd Tue 18 Jun 2013, 6:02 pm

sa 15 looked good, their four looked about 30

Jordan williams and sam davies incredible, scrum very good.

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 6:04 pm

Should send them to Japan Prop Wink

by dammit_chris Tue 18 Jun 2013, 6:05 pm

It all seemed to go wrong for SA when they put on the scrum half who was about 5ft tall...

by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 6:23 pm

Best has had a dreadful season. Been awful since World Cup. Melt down after melt down with his darts. Wade cannot be judged on that. The bloke he missed is an absolute beast also

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Best has been one of Ireland's best players for years, he's had a really poor tour.

Wade struggled throughout defensively, it wasn't just one shocking tackle.

I'm not saying he won't improve as exposure will show weakness (and he's had little time to gel) but we wanted to see if he could cut the mustard and he so far has looked well out of it.

Granted one match but surely you'd agree he was poor?

by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 6:27 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Goode isn't the future, he does not provide enough of an attacking threat.

Brown is the best bet right now. It will be interesting to see if either Jack Nowell or Anthony Watson get any game time at 15 for Chiefs or Bath this season.

agree with that Pete. Would have foden next in line as his head on defence is miles better than Goode who acts essentially as a road bump.
fb is key attacking position and Goode can't attack. Simple one that for me.

Nowell is a great prospect. Think he has huge future

by Steven_Sharks Tue 18 Jun 2013, 6:35 pm

Barritt and Goode should be thrown out with the bath water. Goode for me offers nothing except probably having a better kicking game than Brown and Foden. Foden the better full back but Brown superior over last season or so.

36 and Manu need to be given a good run together. There back up should be the likes of Eastmond, JJ etc and not Barritt.

My AI's backline

9. Youngs
10. Farrell
11. Wade
12. Twelvetrees
13. Tuilagi
14. Ashton
15. Brown

21. Care
22. Burns/Flood
23. Foden

by Steven_Sharks Tue 18 Jun 2013, 7:04 pm

England v AB's a good contest so far. Well worth a watch

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 7:48 pm

Scotty Wilson is really stepping up

by Steven_Sharks Tue 18 Jun 2013, 7:57 pm

Whole side been excellent. Make no mistake Ireland also hammered NZ in the scrum but good performance.

Clifford has done well. I have been watching Sloan carefully after you saying how poor his hands were earlier in the tournament Pooly and he is having a decent game today. Nowell is a phenomenally exciting talent!

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 8:06 pm

He is Steve, he was awful at 12. Seems to more little offloads at 13, much better.

How doesn't Sisi start over Moriarty??

We've signed Barrow apparently

by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 8:12 pm

Moriarty does so much unseen work.
Not a show pony but every side needs a
player like him.
Does a lydiate type role and gets through a stack of work. Very highly rated.

by Steven_Sharks Tue 18 Jun 2013, 8:12 pm

Barrow a good player. Moriaty reminds me a bit of SOB. England have been superb and really hope they hold out. Won't have a better chance of winning the thing for years!

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 8:12 pm

Not overly impressed with A Savea, thought he'd be a standout at this level

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 8:13 pm

Only time I see Moriaty is when he gives another pen away. Who's he with club wise?

by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 8:16 pm

Glos like you didn't know !

Got to have balance in a back row.

Stookes is best prospect we have by a distance.

Both moriarty and him will get game time in LV and maybe a few prem this year

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 8:18 pm

Stookes is a good player.

No idea Moriaty was with Gloucester, he's dross by the way. LCD isn't though!

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 8:24 pm

Loving this!

by Steven_Sharks Tue 18 Jun 2013, 8:25 pm

I was very sceptical about this age group and thought that only Nowell and LCD had real potential. I am quite wrong!

by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 8:28 pm

Me too Steve, thought it was our worst in years.

Massively impressed with Wilson, LCD, Burrows, Ciffiord, Nowell, Slade. Real core of a class side. Slade has improved 1000% since last season.

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