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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 07 Jun 2013, 9:02 pm

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Breaking News: Leicester Tigers win Aviva Premiership final after a penalty shoot out against Harlequins


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2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
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2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
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Welcome to Season 6 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game.  Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to.  If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.


Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players.  If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.


Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players.  Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1991.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page.  Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.


Transfers wrote:

  • Domestic (other AP Teams)
    Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

  • Domestic (Championship and below)
    Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues.  These players must be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected.  No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

  • Foreign
    To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

    There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

    Structured Window

    No cash will be used and each team will get effectively free transfers by way of a draft, which will run 12th, 11th, 10th …… 1st, 12th, 11th,10th… 1st place side.  This will run from 10th June 2013 until all teams have had their two picks.

    Open Window

    Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them.  Teams may only bid for one player at a time.



Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players.  Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches.  These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday.  Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday.  Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday.  Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday.  Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Saturday.  Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved).  An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result.  To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box.  If you are not providing a descriptive prediction you will be restricted to predicting a 1 point win either way.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million


If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.


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Post by Guest Tue 18 Jun 2013, 10:16 pm

Did we win ? Set the game to record
As was falling asleep

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 18 Jun 2013, 10:17 pm

Oh yea!!!

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 19 Jun 2013, 9:58 am

I see Barnes has all but confirmed a deal to Japan;

http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wallabies/berrick-barnes-plotting-return-to-australia-for-rwc-2015-following-stint-in-japanese-rugby/story-e6frf55l-1226647318294#.UcFzUueOTko

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Post by Guest Wed 19 Jun 2013, 10:05 am

That's an old article and whilst he has not
Signed I think he may well do. They have been saying this since January though so he may be holding out for ARU to up his cash

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Wed 19 Jun 2013, 10:12 am

"It's no secret, I'm ending after the Bledisloe Cup in October," Barnes said.
"The ARU have been very good about it, and so have Panasonic."

I think thats as good a confirmation as you will get Matt. Shame really as hes still young and Waratahs seem to have really sorted themselves out. He could offer them alot going forward. Oz do seem well stocked at 12 going forward anyways though!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 10:33 am

Barnes is rumoured to be playing 15 this weekend.

Was listening to an Aus reporter and he was saying how Barnes splits opinions due to his pragmatic style. Thoughts are he's not a good Super player as it's so fast and a running game doesn't suit him. Said he'd always be a better Int player than Super rugby player.

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Post by Guest Wed 19 Jun 2013, 11:33 am

He is a pragmatic 15 but certainly not a pragmatic 12. He plays the second 5/8 role perfectly. Love a distributing 12.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Wed 19 Jun 2013, 11:35 am

Expected Wallabies XV: Benn Robinson, Stephen Moore, Ben Alexander, James Horwill (c), Kane Douglas, Ben Mowen, Michael Hooper, Wycliff Palu,Will Genia, James O'Connor, Digby Ioane, Christian Lealiifano, Adam Ashley-Cooper, Israel Folau, Berrick Barnes.

Reserves: Saia Faingaa, James Slipper, Sekope Kepu, Rob Simmons, Liam Gill, Nick Phipps, Kurtley Beale, Pat McCabe.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 11:36 am

I'd say he was a extremley pragmatic 10/12, Barnes kicks away a lot of possesion. He generally kicks well but he's certainly more a tactcial 10/12 than a runner. He's like a better version of Farrell.

I do like Barnes though, needs a straight hard running 13 to get the best out of him but when he clicks he's quality. Be a loss to Aus, not to Super rugby though.

12. Barnes
13. AAC

Is the best midfield for Aus by a long long way, always look good together.

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Post by prop_lyd Wed 19 Jun 2013, 12:13 pm

after a good eq and fb. will part with quite a bit of cazh!!!!
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Post by Guest Wed 19 Jun 2013, 12:17 pm

To be attacking you don't need to be a runner. He is af  footballing 12 like auron mauger and many other great ab 2nd 5/8.

It's exactly what England need.

You have to have more than one way to attack and have subtlety and invention in rugby. He is an intelligent player and world class.

Same with Backrow you need balance hence sisi not playing last night and same with lions Backrow which is still up for grabs

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Post by Guest Wed 19 Jun 2013, 12:18 pm

Nonu was a real departure for nz in terms of his style of 12. They were lucky Conrad smith a different type of 13
Emerged!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 12:25 pm

Nonu that different to Umaga? I don't think so.

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 19 Jun 2013, 12:30 pm

Pooly, pretty sure Umaga was a 13 and he played outside Mauger though?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 12:33 pm

Played a lot at 12 too, it was hardly new for AB's to play a bosh at 12

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Post by Guest Wed 19 Jun 2013, 12:49 pm

If you know your history of rugby nz have never been keen on bosh 12
Hence them inventing term 2nd 5/8 ie second fly half.

Umaga was mainly 13  and wing and latterly 12. Historically New Zealand have always had a footballing 12.

13 was usually the steam train ie bunce ierimia etc etc

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 12:59 pm

You said Nonu was a departure, Umaga played 12 before Nonu was on scene.

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Post by stnick88 Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:03 pm

he played there a bit but generally they always played a ball playing 12 like mauger. umaga played there on occasion though.

Nonu has been a regular 12 for NZ for years though.

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Post by Guest Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:10 pm

100% nick nonu is a departure and changed the mould for NZ 12s. Mccalister played the footballing role for them then moved overseasstnick88 wrote:he played there a bit but generally they always played a ball playing 12 like mauger. umaga played there on occasion though.

Nonu has been a regular 12 for NZ for years though.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:12 pm

Umaga was the departure surely...he paved the way for Nonu really.

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Post by Fluxy Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:19 pm

Pooly just seen Falcons have bought Lobo. Cracking piece of business there!

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 19 Jun 2013, 1:50 pm

Anyone looking for improvements in backthree I have Siviatu and Imhoff available.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:08 pm

Would Imhoff improve anybody? There's some cracking squads on here.


Yea seen mate, looks a beast but not seen him play. Needed a backup LH, Barrow to follow!

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Post by Fluxy Wed 19 Jun 2013, 2:11 pm

He's been good when I've seen him for Montpellier. I've been tempted to sign him on these games but worried that no one would know who he was! Barrow would also be a brilliant signing for the future and a glimpse of our intent for the few seasons.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 20 Jun 2013, 6:56 am

Lions team: Leigh Halfpenny, Alex Cuthbert, Brian O'Driscoll, Jonathan Davies, George North, Jonathan Sexton, Mike Phillips; Alex Corbisiero, Tom Youngs, Adam Jones, Alun-Wyn Jones, Paul O'Connell, Tom Croft, Sam Warburton (captain), Jamie Heaslip


Replacements: Richard Hibbard, Mako Vunipola, Dan Cole, Geoff Parling, Dan Lydiate, Ben Youngs, Owen Farrell, Sean Maitland

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Post by Steven_Sharks Thu 20 Jun 2013, 7:25 am

Id swap SOB for Croft with him moving to bench. Happy with the rest.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Thu 20 Jun 2013, 7:37 am

No SOB, not even on the bench, I guess biggest surprise. Gatlands man love for lydiate seems to have won through. 

Hell of a year for Tom Youngs. Hadn't played top level rugby this time last year.

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Post by Fluxy Thu 20 Jun 2013, 7:45 am

I just can't see Farrell changing the game late on, if we need to go for it later on.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 20 Jun 2013, 8:14 am

SOB over Croft but prob best we could put out.

Lydiate from the bench, what an impact player!

Brussow off to Japan in between super seasons, another Bok leaves

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Post by Guest Thu 20 Jun 2013, 8:36 am

How can sob not be bench apart from that happy enough. All of our hookers have been dross and youngs has been the least dross of them so deserves his starting spot.

had to pick parling on the bench as if poc gets injured we need someone to sure up the lineout and also help the hooker out.

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Post by stnick88 Thu 20 Jun 2013, 8:53 am

youngs hasnt been dross. he has done nothing wrong. hit his jumpers and been solid in the scrum. done his job perfectly well!

Lydiate is a hurrendous call SOB or Tipuric should of been bench.

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Post by Guest Thu 20 Jun 2013, 9:02 am

Think hooker has been our weakest position by far.
Hopefully we can hit the back of the lineout and get good attacking ball.

Look at the final of the prem and first lions game where he melted down. Deserves his spot but our weakest position by a mile

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Post by stnick88 Thu 20 Jun 2013, 9:04 am

I think number 8 is our weakest. Neither Heaslip or Faletau have been great. Faletau was good midweek in a poor side. Heaslip hasn't been bad but been quite average really.
Shame we didn't try SOB at 8 in one game or that Morgan didn't tour.

Both Heaslip and Faletau control at the back of the scrum has been terrible

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Post by Guest Thu 20 Jun 2013, 9:25 am

Think both 8s have been great myself. Most commentators seem to think it was hardest position to pick due to their form.

You need a regular 8 at 8. Sob is ideal impact sub. Apparently its going to be wet and harder to move ball Saturday so imagine lydiate there to suffocate from the bench.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Thu 20 Jun 2013, 9:29 am

I've been quite impressed with both 8's, Heaslip has picked up some form and Faletau was great midweek.

I'd have liked to have seen SOB at 8 too

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Post by Guest Thu 20 Jun 2013, 10:31 am

8 is such a technical position. Needs a specialist. Alberts some times plays 8 and whilst ok there does not rip
Up trees. Imagine sob would be the same

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Post by Guest Fri 21 Jun 2013, 6:49 pm

Can't wait for tomorrow such a big game.

The saffers vs Samoa will be big as well. Interested to see etzbeth leading the lineout.

They have been saying he is a big talent in the lineout but does not get chance due to saffers having such good operators.

They look light there tomorrow so interested to see how he goes

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Post by Guest Fri 21 Jun 2013, 7:12 pm

Interesting to hear Ben mowen is leading the Aussie lineout on debut tomorrow.

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Post by Fluxy Fri 21 Jun 2013, 7:19 pm

I'm pretty sure etz leads defence mate, much like Botha used to do

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Post by Guest Fri 21 Jun 2013, 7:39 pm

He is leading the lineout attack and defence tomorrow. Interestingly it was Bekkers dad who discovered him years ago. Etzbeth was playing centre ????? Bekker snr thinks he will end up a 5 as he has such aerial prowess. Since vermaulen been out he has lead the lineout for stormers apparently. I thought Bekker did 

Yet to see him play 5 but he is a monster abrasive 4 so can't see why they would move him.
He is with the penalty machine van de merwe tomorrow so can see them losing. Only Meyer rates  flip. Sa fans go nuts on the forums about him being near the squad.
To be fair etzbeth he must have looked weird at centre

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 21 Jun 2013, 7:43 pm

I rate Flip, does the graft around the park. Better carrier than Etzebeth so they'll work well together I imagine

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Post by Fluxy Fri 21 Jun 2013, 7:51 pm

I was just stating that he clearly had the ability so I don't see a problem. You have to start somewhere!

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Post by Guest Fri 21 Jun 2013, 8:12 pm

Fluxy wrote:I was just stating that he clearly had the ability so I don't see a problem. You have to start somewhere!
Agree totally flux just thought it was a surprise to be doing it an international at 21. Sa value lineout so much yet have on paper picked not the greatest lineout. 

I think we were both agreeing with each other flux but getting wrong end of stick. Problem with posts and emails is reading what someone really means 

Tomorrow is an unbelievable day of rugby.

Fear for France and that side. However being France they may be in the mood and play well

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Post by Guest Fri 21 Jun 2013, 8:16 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I rate Flip, does the graft around the park. Better carrier than Etzebeth so they'll work well together I imagine

Wow for me that is odd Etzbeth does all the hard carries tons of tackles work rate unbelievable. Flip gives penalties away galore and clears rucks superbly but little else for me.

Post that comment on an Sa forum and I reckon you may have a lynch mob coming round pooly.

Flip may have 5 on his back tomorrow. Seen it differently in each publication and site. 

Is Kruger injured ? Much better partner for Etzbeth or du toit who along with Etzbeth will be the future. Du toit is top drawer

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Post by Fluxy Fri 21 Jun 2013, 8:28 pm

I think that they've dropped Kruger out as he's moving up to France, I would say either Du Toit or someone like De Kock Steenkamp for now.

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Post by Guest Fri 21 Jun 2013, 9:27 pm

Think du toit could be 4 with Etzbeth 5 both phenomenal athletes. They cover so much ground. De man sausage steenkamp useful also. Willemse and the other van de merwe ( not related) are great. Van de merwe is a really common surname in Sa generally farmers.

Sa has massively engaged the black community in rugby you now see rugby balls being played with in all the townships. Sa will become an even bigger force in my opinion.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 21 Jun 2013, 10:08 pm

Flip is a really good carrier generally, much better than Etzebeth who despite being a cracking talent isn't a great carrier.

Pretty sure if you posted on a NZ website suggesting Cruden isn't a top FH you'd receive a similar reaction Wink

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Post by Guest Fri 21 Jun 2013, 10:21 pm

Nz rugby world


The truth about Carter is that the nation has come to take him for granted. The way he so effortlessly steers the side around the field, throws leisurely passes, kicks and runs with so much time and space, its entirely deceptive. Only those who are truly brilliant can play like that – it takes incredible ability to make it look like you have more time than everyone else. To be so unhurried and in control – that is the mark of a rugby great. Carter is just that and when he was injured during the early part of the Rugby Championship, the All Blacks really missed him. Aaron Cruden did well, but the difference between him and Carter is still major.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 21 Jun 2013, 10:26 pm

Great reply, you make me laugh sometimes.

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Post by Guest Fri 21 Jun 2013, 10:34 pm

That for
Me is accurate. Despite playing in a dominant team in the RC cruden was just ok.

For you to label him best in world after carter is nonsense for
Me.

Lambie steyn sexton cooper Barnes pisi all better for me.

Tusi pisi is very very good and would get more time if he was NZ qualified.

Amazed he performs on the world stage like he does with limited game time.

Glos Leicester or more so saints should sign him.

This vs France shows crudens defence. 3 missed tackles in an international at 10 is unbelievable. Ab's need to hide him. This was
Against a dreadful French mismatch side also. Bearing in mind the herald is the most patriotic paper in the world and so one eyed its
Amazing an all black can ever be accused of missing a tackle 

http://m.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=10889575

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