Season 6 Homepage

by **Ozzy3213** Fri 07 Jun 2013, 9:02 pm

First topic message reminder :

Breaking News: Leicester Tigers win Aviva Premiership final after a penalty shoot out against Harlequins

Season 6 Homepage - Page 16 Aviva-Premiership-Trophy-e1306508139154

2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish

POS	Aviva Premiership	PLAYED	WON	DREW	LOST	P F	P A	P D	T F	T A	TBP	LBP	POINTS
1	Bath Rugby	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
2	Exeter Chiefs	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
3	Gloucester	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
4	Harlequins	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
5	Leicester Tigers	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
6	London Irish	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
7	London Welsh	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
8	Newcastle Falcons	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
9	Northampton Saints	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
10	Sale Sharks	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
11	Saracens	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
12	Worcester Warriors	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0

Links

Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
European Homepage
Game History Page

Welcome to Season 6 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (Ozzy3213) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1991.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.

Transfers wrote:

Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.

Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

Structured Window

No cash will be used and each team will get effectively free transfers by way of a draft, which will run 12th, 11th, 10th …… 1st, 12th, 11th,10th… 1st place side. This will run from 10th June 2013 until all teams have had their two picks.

Open Window

Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Saturday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. If you are not providing a descriptive prediction you will be restricted to predicting a 1 point win either way.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:09 pm

See Jauzion has retired, great career.

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:10 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:That is a real poor backup, we have a better backup I'd say but too many average players.

1. Shiels 2. Lawson 3. Brookes
4. Del Fava 5. McLeod
6. Welch 8. Hogg. 7. Saull

Backup..

1. Nobo 2. Vickers 3. Tomahawk
4. McKenzie 5. Barrow/Tomes
6. Wilson. 8. York. 7. Mayhew

I'd be more than confident any of our second string could step in, question is can our best compete? We need a new 6 I think but that'll prob be it.

That is the worst front row in the league by a distance. Scrummaging wise would struggle in div 1. Shiells a strong scrummager but Lawson worst scrummaging hooker think I have ever seen. Was dreadful at glos. great around the park. Brookes unproven and if first choice I would expect Newcastle to have horror times
In scrum.

That back up pack is poor also. Barrow not
Ready for prem.
Wilson aside very poor.

Falcons or Worcester for the drop for me. Glos will lose to falcons away though its tradition.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:15 pm

I knew you'd say that.

I wouldn't say we'd be any worse than Gloucester, Sale, Worcester and Irish.

Brookes is a regular Saxon, needs some fitness work but a good player as is Tomas who's improved massively last year

I'd say our engine room is strong, we have 3 very good locks.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:16 pm

York hardly "very poor" also.

Lets see Gloucester first and seconds then Matt.

by stnick88 Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:19 pm

haha thats a little harsh matt.

Del Fava is alright as is Saull and Hogg. Welch not bad either.

Lawson had some good games for Irish last year but did struggle in the scrum.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:22 pm

Looking at Gloucesters locks I'd say we have 3 better (Del Fava, McLeod & McKenzie) better than any of yours. Hudson was 3rd choice for us last season.

I'd also say a fit Brookes(if) is better than Harden and Knight.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:24 pm

This same Lawson outplayed Strauss in Scotland v SA game, scrum didn't struggle either.

We have Vickers & Thompson as strong scrummaging hookers.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:27 pm

"Scrummaging wise would struggle in div 1."

We've just been promoted and had one of best scrums in Championship without Brookes, how does that comment make any sense at all??? That's an comment even for you Matthew.

by **Ozzy3213** Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:29 pm

Lawson is poor in the scrum Pooly, trust me. He has good darts and is mobile, but was not good for us overall as we got regularly humped in the scrum when he was in there. I was stood next to him when he was warming up at a pre-season game at Sunbury, and he is not much bigger than Lee Mears, if at all.

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:30 pm

I said Newcastle back up
Poor. Did. Not say the rest of pack was poor.

Lawson without a shadow of a doubt the worst scrummaging hooker
In the league . Always has been. Admits himself that he struggles scrum wise.

York has no proven experience of playing well in prem. wilson decent back up.

Your locks are decent and better than glos have.

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:30 pm

Because Brooke's will weaken your scrum for me.

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:33 pm

Also lawson did not play for you last year that's why I said he would struggle in div 1

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:34 pm

We have Thompson who's a great scrummager, Vickers pretty good but throws worse than LCD.

York had about 10/12 games for Quins in a row and was excellent the season before last. He's a very good 8 and better than most backups I imagine

I'm unsure if Brookes will be ahead of Tomas(who's came on leaps). If he gets fit Brookes is a v good scrummager, he was when he left us anyway.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:35 pm

How would a Scottish Int struggle in Div 1?

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:37 pm

Because he struggles in the scrum at every level he plays. He is not
Good enough scrummage in prem as myself nick Pete and anyone who has seen him play live.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:38 pm

But he gets picked for Scotland and doesn't struggle against SA?

Baffling.

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:39 pm

Honestly lawson is dross. He is the 4th choice hooker in Scotland which says something

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:41 pm

Was drafted in after ford dropped out and they had named 2 other hookers in squad.

Good impact sub. When you have watched him play live talk to me

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:43 pm

I've seen him play live, I'm not disputing his small but you don't play Int rugby if your as bad as you're making out.

He outplayed Strauss v SA

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:47 pm

Did you see Scotland v SA? Scotland had upper hand in scrum for most of game.

1. Beast
2. Strauss
3. JdP

1. Dickinson (yes Dickinson!!!)
2. Lawson
3. Murray

by stnick88 Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:48 pm

yeh matt he isnt that bad!

i saw him play a lot last season and he never had a bad game just struggles with his scrummaging and his size didnt help us as our pack was always struggling.

he is lively around the park, has decent darts, carries ok for a wee fella.

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:49 pm

He did not outplay Strauss. Sa took a while to
Get on top.

Scotland are spoilers of games that's how they compete. Also
Playing for Scotland makes players play out of
Their skins. Funny nation.

He is a great impact sub that's how he plays int rugby. He is not first choice for a weak national side

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:50 pm

I have said he is good around the park and good darts.

All I said was he is a terrible scrummager.

Had great games for
Glos when ground was hard

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:54 pm

He did outplay Strauss, Strauss was awful as was most of SA pack......you didn't see it did you Wink

by stnick88 Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:55 pm

i saw it. scotland were on top for 55/60 mins until hamilton got binned then SA hammered them. Lawson had the game of his life!! as did Swinson.

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 3:57 pm

Swinson was quality, been great all season

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 4:04 pm

Berrick Barnes off for 2 years to Japan? Thought it was only 1.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/wallabies/berrick-barnes-plotting-return-to-australia-for-rwc-2015-following-stint-in-japanese-rugby/story-e6frf55l-1226647318294#.UcsCDva9LCQ

"The playmaker-fullback will have the opportunity of winning a British and Irish Lions series and regaining the Bledisloe Cup, while being part of New South Wales Waratahs’ revival before joining Panasonic Wild Knights on a two-year deal in October.

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 4:08 pm

This is old and you have posted it before pooly. He still has not signed. Imagine he will go though but there are a heap of contract problems in NSW rugby. If
Not sorted most could go

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 4:10 pm

stnick88 wrote:i saw it. scotland were on top for 55/60 mins until hamilton got binned then SA hammered them. Lawson had the game of his life!! as did Swinson.

Swindon was a surprise but the jocks always have one at least one game a year in then where they surprise like beating Aussies etc. they can never back it ip

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 4:11 pm

I've not posted that before

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 4:15 pm

Someone has. It's over a month old. Assume he will go but he has not signed yet.

Nsw trying to cut lots
Of player pay so there is lots of
Manoeuvring via agents etc. could be hot
Air or Nsw could lose a lot
Of players. Folau meant to be stayin in union now
And rejected bulldogs

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 4:17 pm

Hope he does, great to watch. Imagine he'll only do another year though

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 4:20 pm

Apparently until World Cup.
Loves the fact that union is international and he will
See the world.

Said RL does not offer this. Keeping Barnes may help
Keep folau so not over until its over. Imagine they will move the earth for folau to stay

by stnick88 Wed 26 Jun 2013, 4:49 pm

ferris signs new 6 month contract.

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 5:18 pm

stnick88 wrote:ferris signs new 6 month contract.

Now I can't release him !!!

by prop_lyd Wed 26 Jun 2013, 5:21 pm

I'll take him Matt....not sure if I have enough BR options Whistle

On a serious note....where do I need to improve now?

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 5:22 pm

That's a turn up, everything was pointing to him leaving.

Apparently he's unlikely to play in 2013 but they'll asses if he's worth another contract at end of year.

Must be really touch and go with injury, I wonder if Japanese side pulled out.

by Guest Wed 26 Jun 2013, 5:33 pm

Ferris

Is vying with croft Alberts Arno Botha and Burger for blind side in my side prop so better shape up.

Said that Japan stuff was nonsense. He is a huge Ireland fan and has ambitions so thought he would stay. Next injury is curtains though

by Sgt_Pooly Wed 26 Jun 2013, 5:41 pm

"Said that Japan stuff was nonsense. He is a huge Ireland fan and has ambitions so thought he would stay. Next injury is curtains though"

Well Anscombe came out and said he was in negotiations with a Japanese side so I doubt it was nonsense. More likely they didn't want to take the risk on him.

by prop_lyd Wed 26 Jun 2013, 5:41 pm

haha fair enough I'll let you keep him as you need depth !!

by Guest Thu 27 Jun 2013, 6:10 am

Bold selection from gatland. Well done I say. Bowe will add plenty. Phillips is a call I thought he would not make.

His love for lydiate knows no bounds

by Fluxy Thu 27 Jun 2013, 6:52 am

He was going to make one of this decisions, but I'm happy with it to be honest. I think Lydiates ethic along with Parlings could lift the pack. Kind of players you need when the other side are desperate to win.

by **Ozzy3213** Thu 27 Jun 2013, 7:19 am

Interesting call having Croft covering the second row from the bench. Harsh on Gray, who I thought did enough against the Rebels to get a bench spot.

by Guest Thu 27 Jun 2013, 7:39 am

Aussie side has JOC at 10 ????

by **Ozzy3213** Thu 27 Jun 2013, 7:50 am

Only 2 changes for Aus, Tomane in for Digby, and Beale in for Barnes.

I think this will be another close game, and part of me wants Aus to nick it so that we get a series decider next week.

by Guest Thu 27 Jun 2013, 8:03 am

Ozzy3213 wrote:Only 2 changes for Aus, Tomane in for Digby, and Beale in for Barnes.

I think this will be another close game, and part of me wants Aus to nick it so that we get a series decider next week.

We will forget you said that Pete

by LukeLovesLuka Thu 27 Jun 2013, 8:06 am

Phillips not even on the bench?

by stnick88 Thu 27 Jun 2013, 8:40 am

Big call. Did not expect that but am happy. Hope Youngs has a blinder now.

Can understand dropping Croft with Parling playing, but think SOB is far more deserving of a spot than Lydiate.

Having a wing on the bench is an odd call but probably felt a bit bad dropping Cuthbert. Manu unlucky. Gutted we havent had a chance to see him in a test.

by dammit_chris Thu 27 Jun 2013, 9:13 am

Some really big calls by Gatland there - is that 5 changes to the starting lineup?

Can see why he's picked Lydiate, guy doesn't ever miss a tackle and stops everything around a breakdown - the Aussies got a bit of joy last week there and that gave Genia a good platform to attack off of. Let Lydiate do his job there for 50/60mins and then SOB can have a huge impact from the bench. Think Lydiate is a great blindside.

Good to see Bowe, wouldn't have had Cuthburt on the bench when Tuilagi can also cover wing, especially after his mid-week performance. Apart from his try last week, Cuthbert was incredibly poor, his positioning was well out and some of his work under the highball was awful.

Dropping Phillips altogether I didn't think would happen!

by **Ozzy3213** Thu 27 Jun 2013, 9:16 am

I'm not convinced Phillips has been 'dropped'. He has been carrying a knee injury and I reckon wasn't going to be 100% so has been left out. If he was completely fit, then there is no way he would be totally out of the 23, he would at least be on the bench.

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