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French Open 2013 Finals Thread - David vs Goliath ,Rafa to roll for 8th Crown in history?
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Massive favorite vs major underdog could be the theme of the finals, can David beat the Goliath for a career rewarding title?
I guess I owe a good thread in this FO series and here I go, the match starts roughly at 3.00 PM, nice start time for Canadian fans, as it will be 9 AM in the morning.
Let Analyze do David have it in him to win Rafa aka slay Goliath? the straight forward answer would be no, some of them has gone so far saying I won't mind betting my house on Rafa win even if David is 2 sets up, such is the impact of Rafa. What I find strange is punters fear, they are giving only 4 odds on David to win the first set, are they seeing the match to be closer than what a general tennis fan would see? Indeed Djoko got 2.9 odds on him, so chance of upset tomorrow is only marginal compared to Rafa's semifinal opponent?
Rafa to win 3-0 gets 1.72 odds and 3-1 gets 3.50.
Whoever gonna win it was an eventual tiresome tournament with so many upsets, with Robredo being the chief culprit, it was a fun enjoyable tournament and I hope we get a fitting finale with the biggest upset.
Let the game Begin.
Massive favorite vs major underdog could be the theme of the finals, can David beat the Goliath for a career rewarding title?
I guess I owe a good thread in this FO series and here I go, the match starts roughly at 3.00 PM, nice start time for Canadian fans, as it will be 9 AM in the morning.
Let Analyze do David have it in him to win Rafa aka slay Goliath? the straight forward answer would be no, some of them has gone so far saying I won't mind betting my house on Rafa win even if David is 2 sets up, such is the impact of Rafa. What I find strange is punters fear, they are giving only 4 odds on David to win the first set, are they seeing the match to be closer than what a general tennis fan would see? Indeed Djoko got 2.9 odds on him, so chance of upset tomorrow is only marginal compared to Rafa's semifinal opponent?
Rafa to win 3-0 gets 1.72 odds and 3-1 gets 3.50.
Whoever gonna win it was an eventual tiresome tournament with so many upsets, with Robredo being the chief culprit, it was a fun enjoyable tournament and I hope we get a fitting finale with the biggest upset.
Let the game Begin.
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Ridiculous events. Nadal clearly affected there...first FH shank, first DF.
They should have sat down for a couple of mins afterwards.
They should have sat down for a couple of mins afterwards.
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Rafa you're great and Daveed we all love you lots, but must leave you now ...... I have to watch some paint dry.
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Wooahhh....even worse shocker from Ferrer.
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David in five, anyone?
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Don't blame you lags...even as a Rafa fan this isn't great. Lets face it, the final took place on Friday.
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Haha SB, yeah 5 sets must be nailed on now.
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SB is the new Amritiasummerblues wrote:David in five, anyone?
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At least he has done better than Roger in '08.
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Ferrer was always going to lose, but these idiots have soured an already dull tasting match. I dont mind streakers, but runing at someone is with an object engulfed in flames is quite frankly dangerous.
And to top it off he's a homophobe. Thats the most classless thing I've seen this year, anywhere!
And to top it off he's a homophobe. Thats the most classless thing I've seen this year, anywhere!
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Missed that. What happened?
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kingraf wrote:Ferrer was always going to lose, but these idiots have soured an already dull tasting match. I dont mind streakers, but runing at someone is with an object engulfed in flames is quite frankly dangerous.
And to top it off he's a homophobe. Thats the most classless thing I've seen this year, anywhere!
This.
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Just what I thought SB...courtesy of the flare probably.
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Nadal tightening up at the finishing line already?
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Pat Cash calling Nadal the best volleyer in the game.
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kingraf wrote:Pat Cash calling Nadal the best volleyer in the game.
Maybe he is - volleying standards have fallen in recent years. There's not much point spending a lot of time prefecting your volley, when it's generally a bad tactic to approach the net, unless there's an easy putaway. Better off spending the time in the gym.
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Best ever I hope. Though Mac and Edberg were passable too. But with sports always advancing it is no surprise he is better than them
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Hes a good volleyer, especially on the drop volley, but no way hes better than berdych tsonga of the fed
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I personally place Tsonga at the top of the tree.
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Rafa's level has fallen off a cliff again...all these games are being decided by his racquet, good or bad.
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Pat Cash
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Hardly surprising, Ferrer is plain rubbish against the top players.
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I've watched approx one set of this final and it has to be the worst fare I've ever seen (final wise).
Rafa playing below average and still Ferrer unable to do anything.
Rafa playing below average and still Ferrer unable to do anything.
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Nadal has played really well at times here, as far as I can see.emancipator wrote:I've watched approx one set of this final and it has to be the worst fare I've ever seen (final wise).
Rafa playing below average and still Ferrer unable to do anything.
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He's more concerned about the weather, and losing concentration due to it.
Come on, just finish this off.
Come on, just finish this off.
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Nadal is being too "controlled-aggressive"... Just needs to let rip.
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lydian wrote:He's more concerned about the weather, and losing concentration due to it.
Come on, just finish this off.
this time last year he was insisting they come off court. Must be easier to play in the rain when you know you can win easily
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Congrats Rafa, well done. Today was never going to be difficult, but he still had to show up and win it. Will be interesting to see how he does on grass and beyond.
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JHM, for a mod, you sure have WUMy tendencies...mhmm.
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Once Nadal beat Novak on Friday, the result in this final was always a foregone conclusion.
It was great hitting practice today for the man from Mallorca.
It was great hitting practice today for the man from Mallorca.
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Yawn...that was predictable.
Wilander is right....this might be the best top three in the open era but this is arguably the weakest chasing pack in the open era.
Wilander is right....this might be the best top three in the open era but this is arguably the weakest chasing pack in the open era.
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Nadal. #12/#8.
Ferrer. Well played little man. Proud of you getting to the F.
Ferrer. Well played little man. Proud of you getting to the F.
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summerblues wrote:JHM, for a mod, you sure have WUMy tendencies...mhmm.
Actually, I thought it was quite insightful (and probably correct), if you think about it. I'm not blaming him for human nature.
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Didnt enjoy the last set and a half. Hopefully any future sport bids the French put forward will be darkened by the joke that happened today.
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Thank goodness it's over after Friday's final.
Very anti-climactic as a spectacle but he got the job done.
Could win more yet too...
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YES YES YES YES YES
HATAHS CAN SUCK IT.
NADAL'S GAME IS OBSOLETE AGIANST THE TOP 10. HE CAN'T WIN ANOTHER SLAM FROM 2009. HE'S ON A SLIPPERY SLOPE FROM 2012 MARCH.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
#12 in the bag, that's enough.
HATAHS CAN SUCK IT.
NADAL'S GAME IS OBSOLETE AGIANST THE TOP 10. HE CAN'T WIN ANOTHER SLAM FROM 2009. HE'S ON A SLIPPERY SLOPE FROM 2012 MARCH.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
#12 in the bag, that's enough.
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JuliusHMarx wrote:summerblues wrote:JHM, for a mod, you sure have WUMy tendencies...mhmm.
Actually, I thought it was quite insightful (and probably correct), if you think about it. I'm not blaming him for human nature.
I think youre probably right. But, Ferrer reserves the right to refuse to play in those conditions as well.
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Fantastic from Rafa!
Made it look so easy, when in fact it wasn't. Fair play to Ferrer for getting to the final and did put up an effort, but his shots did let him down at times. But he has improved so much as a cricketer.
But Nadal was class today and winning his 8th French Open title speaks for itself. Great player and a real legend.
Really looking forward to Wimbledon now
Made it look so easy, when in fact it wasn't. Fair play to Ferrer for getting to the final and did put up an effort, but his shots did let him down at times. But he has improved so much as a cricketer.
But Nadal was class today and winning his 8th French Open title speaks for itself. Great player and a real legend.
Really looking forward to Wimbledon now
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I can't believe we've come to this after him having 7 months out and on the verge of retirement.
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kingraf wrote:JuliusHMarx wrote:summerblues wrote:JHM, for a mod, you sure have WUMy tendencies...mhmm.
Actually, I thought it was quite insightful (and probably correct), if you think about it. I'm not blaming him for human nature.
I think youre probably right. But, Ferrer reserves the right to refuse to play in those conditions as well.
Ferrer's more of a quiet guy though - I don't think he'd kick up a fuss - perhaps he should have done, although I think he knew he was beaten by that point.
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JHM, this time last year they had to come off court, Nadal doesn't control the weather or whether (pardon the pun) they go on or stay off. Today/tomorrow or whenever it was going to be finished wouldn't have stopped the result here...don't see the need to refer to last year other than as SB says wummery.
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I do not disagree with what you said (though I may be biased). But good WUMing is often like that. To write something more or less correct, but to write it in a way where the audience will find it difficult to accept; is that not WUMy?
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Oh it's fine, he's just being a bit jovial.summerblues wrote:I do not disagree with what you said (though I may be biased). But good WUMing is often like that. To write something more or less correct, but to write it in a way where the audience will find it difficult to accept; is that not WUMy?
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He'd be better off if he improved at tennis.NickisBHAFC wrote: Fair play to Ferrer for getting to the final and did put up an effort, but his shots did let him down at times. But he has improved so much as a cricketer.
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And now, the Anti-Nadal threads cannot be too far away.. Footie off-season, plus Nadal victory (especially to overtake Borg) is a bad combination...
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Red wrote:I can't believe we've come to this after him having 7 months out and on the verge of retirement.
Congrats to Nadal fans, to bask in reflected glory.
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Slam #12 for the man from Mallorca, already ahead of greats such as Borg, McEnroe, Connors, and only two short of Sampras.
His place in tennis immortality has been further cemented.
His place in tennis immortality has been further cemented.
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lydian wrote:JHM, this time last year they had to come off court, Nadal doesn't control the weather or whether (pardon the pun) they go on or stay off. Today/tomorrow or whenever it was going to be finished wouldn't have stopped the result here.
Nothing would have changed the result. The top players do have an influence though - if Rafa had complained vociferously this year, they might have come off. But there was no need for him to do that this year - victory was in the bag anyway.
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laverfan wrote:Red wrote:I can't believe we've come to this after him having 7 months out and on the verge of retirement.
Congrats to Nadal fans, to bask in reflected glory.
LF, for a mod, you sure have WUMy tendencies...mhmm.
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summerblues wrote:I do not disagree with what you said (though I may be biased). But good WUMing is often like that. To write something more or less correct, but to write it in a way where the audience will find it difficult to accept; is that not WUMy?
That is the beauty of diverse opinions. One person's WUM, is another person's chum.
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