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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:44 am

New Zealand:

15 Israel Dagg, 14 Ben Smith, 13 Conrad Smith, 12 Ma'a Nonu, 11 Julian Savea, 10 Aaron Cruden, 9 Aaron Smith
8 Kieran Read (c), 7 Sam Cane, 6 Liam Messam, 5 Sam Whitelock, 4 Luke Romano, 3 Owen Franks, 2 Dane Coles, 1 Wyatt Crockett

16 Keven Mealamu, 17 Tony Woodcock, 18 Ben Franks, 19 Jeremy Thrush, 20 Victor Vito, 21 Piri Weepu, 22 Beauden Barrett,
23 Rene Ranger

France:

15 Maxime Médard, 14 Adrien Planté, 13 Florian Fritz, 12 Wesley Fofana, 11 Yoann Huget, 10 Frédéric Michalak, 9 Maxime Machenaud

8 Louis Picamoles, 7 Bernard Le Roux, 6 Thierry Dusautoir (c), 5 Yoann Maestri, 4 Christophe Samson, 3 Nicolas Mas, 2 Dimitri Szarzewski,
1 Thomas Domingo

16 Benjamin Kayser, 17 Vincent Debaty, 18 Luc Ducalcon, 19 Sébastien Vahaamahina, 20 Yannnick Nyanga, 21 Brice Dulin, 22 Rémi Talès,
23 Mathieu Bastareaud

* * *


Well Japan has claimed an upset. A France win wouldn't be out of the extraordinary but can the underdog make it two in a row?

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Post by Taylorman Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:45 am

Savea latches on to a deft Nonu chip...7- 0.

Big win I'm picking here...

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:46 am

NZ off to a good start with a well judged kick from Nonu to send Savea over. He goes to 13 tries and will do his confidence some good.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:48 am

Beat me to it mate. Can the mods please merge my thread into this one please.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:48 am

Agree.  Based on the first few minutes ABs have all the action.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:49 am

Taylor, like your observation about the Otago backs.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:51 am

Nonu being caught in a couple of big tackles. ABs have created the gaps but not holding onto the ball. Typical dew conditions in Christchurch.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:52 am

Clumsy from France

New Zealand winning the kicking battle at the moment
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Post by Taylorman Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:54 am

Yeah its slippery it seems. The home ground for half the side should be an advantage...Aucklanders dont like playing them there...can't see the French liking it any more...Rolling Eyes

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:55 am

Do New Zealand have the wind at their backs?

France need to stop kicking the ball away


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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:55 am

The French look so good with ball in hand. Why are they kicking everything?

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:56 am

Ahh, a nice exciting kicking-for-territory game..............
I think I now know whether to drink beer to enjoy or coffee to stay awake.  I choose coffee.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:57 am

Is there a game on!!

Must find my remote control

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:57 am

what was the score in the first test?

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:58 am

Fofana in space and he almost got another try

Awful attempt at the drop goal - just keep the ball in hand!
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Post by mystiroakey Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:58 am

To be hoenst I want France to bring some point sback to the NH.

Allez le Blues!!

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:59 am

French lineout is awful at the moment
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:00 am

23 13 I think oakey.

If you're going to cheer them on, at least do it properly. Allez les Bleus! Very Happy

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:01 am

Off the post, why on earth were there no French players chasing

and now the All blacks have a kickable penalty

Lazy from france
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:02 am

But menacing from NZ. They look more fired up in the forwards. Cruden's kicking game seems much improved as well.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:03 am

Seeing Cruden line up that kick when they focus on his face reminds me of faces I see in zombie horror movies.  I suppose his mother must love him anyway.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:04 am

 Not a bad score that from the french first up!

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:04 am

Another awful lineout

I have never rated this French hooker, they really miss Servat
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:04 am

If you sped up the play and put on Benny Hill music, you'd be pretty close to how the French are playing at the moment.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:05 am

doctor_grey wrote:Seeing Cruden line up that kick when they focus on his face reminds me of faces I see in zombie horror movies.  I suppose his mother must love him anyway.

Hahaha, I was thinking that - not quite the composed look of Carter
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Post by mystiroakey Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:06 am

I can only see a tonking today..

Mon dieu Frenchies . Mon dieu

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:08 am

I can't think of any team that wouldn't love to have Fofana at 12, ABs included

Only in France could they play him on the wing for most of the six nations

Nonu through
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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:10 am

Missed kick from Cruden
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:11 am

Fofana is classy. Picamoles and Dusatoir are world class as well. Would be welcome in the NZ squad. 

Would've preferred to see another scrum there.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:12 am

You can run the ball into touch under pressure

But you can't run the bal out to end the game/half

Is there a specific law about this, or is it just deliberate over accidental (although running it out is often a deliberate act)
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Post by mystiroakey Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:14 am

Fofana crushed us in the 6n's

Brilliant player

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:14 am

France do well to hold on
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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:15 am

France lucky so far. They look like merde and could be in for a drubbing.

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Post by whocares Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:22 am

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:If you sped up the play and put on Benny Hill music, you'd be pretty close to how the French are playing at the moment.

Good summary Laugh

ABs must ask themselves questions at HT as A 10 points lead is quite poor against this french team.
Guess conditions dont help them.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:22 am

Unlucky France there

France were going forward and the All Blacks pulled the maul down and were lying all over the place - not really a held up turnover if you ask me
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:26 am

Important NZ held them out at the end. I agree who cares 10 0 is not an indication of how the sides have been playing. Dusatoir and Picamoles are working well in tandem. We need a better clear out and too often players are getting isolated in the tackle.

The space is there on the wings but we're getting caught in midfield. A few more kicks in behind or a chip over are required.

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Post by GloriousEmpire Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:30 am

NZ back row is lacking. Cruden a bit one dimensional.

France slowing the game well and look better ball in hand.

NZ look ordinary in attack without Carter and McCaw.

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Post by doctor_grey Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:30 am

Strange. Score should be double what it is. France seem hell bent to not run the ball, and the ABs are running inside lines but should be outside more.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:32 am

All Blacks do look vulnerable without Carter and McCaw

How can France be so awful in the Six nations then go and give the All Blacks a real game
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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:34 am

How can Wales lose against Japan? It happens. Very Happy

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Post by whocares Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:35 am

Hope france sort their line out at HT at least and bring nyanga, tales and kayser.

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Post by Taylorman Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:35 am

Score should have been higher...missed kick and a clear yellow for shirt pulling on Ben Smith- gave the French crucial seconds while Nonu searched for another.

The French not chasing the kick and allowing Read to run 50 showed a slight lack of commitment.

Picamoles and Dussatoir are classy for sure.

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Post by HQ matt Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:35 am

i dont understand the french tactics, they keep kicking the ball but seem reluctant to chase and their lineout has been dreadful.

NZ on the other hand have kick into space and chased superbly

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Post by Taylorman Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:36 am

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:How can Wales lose against Japan? It happens. Very Happy

Remnants of JK?

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:38 am

Any excuse to get an Auckland reference in there. Very Happy

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:38 am

Mistake Michalak misses touch
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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:40 am

If France stopped picking Michalak and actually played some rugby rather than kicking everything like it is 2007 they would be a very tough team to beat
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Post by Taylorman Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:40 am

French looking much more together now...

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:40 am

Dagg has been a rock under the high ball. I guess he's warranted his inclusion based on that alone because the French keep wanting to test him there. Can't think why.

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Post by wales606 Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:41 am

Fofana at pace is so elusive, he will always break a 1 on 1 tackle
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